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The Bandicoot Returns (and It's About Time!) Crash's Nitro-Fueled Smash Thread

Mr. Peepee

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I wonder if Crash 4 will be coming to PC. Only reason I think is because they didn’t put Nitro Fueled but they put N Sane on PC for whatever reason.
 

chocolatejr9

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The cartoon wasn’t on it, but at the same time this was likely made way later (2019/2020) so that means that Activision saw an opportunity to push crash more. Besides, it doesn’t matter since it got cancelled anyway.

but it was
2017: n sane
2018: port it
2019: ctr
2020: crash mobile and crash 4
2021: crash in smash
I wanted to double check to see exactly what these plans entailed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but getting Crash in Smash seems to be the least straightforward thing on this list. Everything else is purely on Activision on whether or not it gets done (even the mobile game, which was made by a subsidiary). They can't just go up to Nintendo and be like "Put Crash in your crossover thingy, you NERDS!": this requires negotiations. Perhaps the reason why people are taking the show being cancelled as a bad sign for Smash is because, based on that one claim that Activision made even NETFLIX (who are notorious for allowing ANYTHING on their platform) to want to avoid them, it could imply that Activision wanted something that Nintendo didn't want, be it a conflict in opinion on how he should be depicted or even just Activision got greedy again and were asking for too much of that sweet Smash money.

Then again, it could just as easily be Nintendo's fault (maybe by the time Activision approached them, Nintendo had already decided on the FP2 cast) or evrn both. I'm not trying to bring the mood down or anything, and I'm sorry if I did. I just figured this was worth examining, based on my limited knowledge of the matter.
 

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What was going to be in the cartoon that made them want to strike a deal with amazon anyway? Crash's humor, especially Crash 4, is pretty much no more harsh than what's allowed on something like Cartoon Network, if shows like Gumball are any indication.

Pretty sure both medias got away with a pp joke in the same exact fashion. Plus, Amazon? Unless you're Netflix or Hulu, 9/10 chances are your show's going under the radar for years.
 

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What was going to be in the cartoon that made them want to strike a deal with amazon anyway? Crash's humor, especially Crash 4, is pretty much no more harsh than what's allowed on something like Cartoon Network, if shows like Gumball are any indication.

Pretty sure both medias got away with a pp joke in the same exact fashion. Plus, Amazon? Unless you're Netflix or Hulu, 9/10 chances are your show's going under the radar for years.
Cartoon Network (along with Nickelodeon, Netflix, Quibi, and HBO Max with some others) passed on distributing the cartoon, not because of the cartoon itself but more so with Activision (as far as why they did this deal originally with Amazon)
 
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A cartoon getting cancelled shouldn't effect Crash's chances whatsoever. It would be like if they cancelled the Sonic 2 movie. "Oh no! Tails or Eggman ain't likely for this game because the Sonic 2 movie was cancelled." Like, that's a very silly way of thinking when these characters are global gaming icons.
 

CosmicQuark

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Yeah, the cartoon has no bearing on Crash being in Smash, other than Activision being difficult to work with. Which is a claim I've heard before, and has been the only reason I think Crash doesn't get in if he doesn't. I feel like he's popular enough and fits well enough that Nintendo/Sakurai would discuss it with Activision.

And publishers don't go to Nintendo to request to be in Smash--as Sakurai said, it starts with Nintendo approaching him with an idea, he says whether or not it would be feasible, and then they go to the publishers to begin discussions.

I would have thought the October release would have been Crash, because that would be perfect timing (a game launch is more significant than a conference, which is why they timed Steve along with Minecon). Which dashed some hopes, but it could also be the case that they were always saving Crash for a E3 2021 reveal. Crash and Sora have been the only characters I now care about getting in, and while Sora's virtually out for now, there's still hope the bandicoot gets in, my most wanted character along with Banjo & Kazooie.
 
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Mr. Peepee

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Here’s four things that I thought of
1. Give me a Fake Crash alt. Maybe a variant from his appearance from N Tranced. It could be the last two slots of his costumes like Joker’s School Uniform. Maybe his taunts or victory animations could be his own version of the Crash dance?
2. When Crash gets the Star item. Aku Aku should shield him just like in the games. (If Aku Aku follows Crash around that is)
3. If Crash dies, then maybe his animation could be his generic death animation from Crash 2 and Crash 3 like Mega Man.
4. His stage entrance could either be him warping onto the stage like from Crash 2, appearing from a warp orb like from Crash 3, or arriving on a bonus or death route platform.
 
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I never really thought the Crash cartoon cancellation would be a deal breaker for his potential inclusion to Smash.

Is it sad to hear such? Of course. It's rather disappointing since he literally was inspired from cartoons themselves, so it's a bother to see him not get a cartoon, but one day we will.

As far as Smash is concerned: Like TCT~Phantom mentioned earlier, Nintendo has worked before with companies that are just as hard nosed and rather stubborn like Activision when it comes to certain IPs and how those IPs would be used in certain projects. And obviously of course, it was already determined a while ago anyways of who would be in the FP, so unless something dramatic happened to where he got removed/not included due to Activision's aforementioned nature (which compared to some of the companies involved in Smash don't seem that much different or worse really lol) although I still do think he could not be included due to certain demands and whatnot that Nintendo may fear from ever doing, but hopefully that hasn't occurred and they remain humble for such inclusion in this game.

I don't think Crash would be the next reveal anyways, it seems to me that if he were to be revealed for Smash, a reveal around E3 this year (even if E3 doesn't happen, basically I'm saying around mid June) would be a PRIME opportunity to reveal him if that is the plan (Hopefully that 5 year plan that's mentioned him in Smash in 2021 being a 'plan' comes to fruition.) Especially around the time video game companies are doing their showcases? Would be perfect for not only his current fans and veterans, but to also bring in new fans on board.
 

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The cartoon wasn’t on it, but at the same time this was likely made way later (2019/2020) so that means that Activision saw an opportunity to push crash more. Besides, it doesn’t matter since it got cancelled anyway.

but it was
2017: n sane
2018: port it
2019: ctr
2020: crash mobile and crash 4
2021: crash in smash
I don’t really believe this “leak”. The initial leak was from like 2018 or 2019 & was reported by several sites like Kotaku. They didn’t mention Smash & the Smash thing didn’t come up until last year AFAIK.

It seems like someone just tagged Smash onto an actual leak to get peoples’ hopes up.
 

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I don't know if this has ever been brought up here before or if it matters because it's sort of old news, But it has been on the back of my head for awhile now.

Why out of all 3rd party franchises and characters did Crash Bandicoot get a special edition "Pro Controller" alongside N.Sane Trilogy for the Nintendo Switch?

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Now correct me if I'm wrong, But outside of your usual and normal looking type of Switch controllers, I have only seen 1st party franchises like Mario and Pokemon get special edition Pro/Gamecube controllers.

I can't ever recall any other 3rd party franchise getting something like this even if it is being handled by "PowerA" Not even Sonic the Hedgehog and you would think he would of gotten something considering how cooperative both Nintendo/Mario and Sega/Sonic are.

Nintendo announcing N.Sane Trilogy for Switch was a pretty big announcement from them saying that Crash Bandicoot is a "Gaming Icon" and that the impossible happened with these once Playstation exclusives debuting on a Nintendo for the 1st time. Yes it came on Xbox and PC too, But they didn't really make it sound like a big deal about it compared to how Nintendo did.

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Then we have CTR: Nitro Fueled getting a free trial earlier this month that was kind of out of nowhere, You would think Nintendo would want people to focus on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe more, But just seems kind of weird they gave a 3rd party game like CTR the spotlight when it came out about a year and half ago and again correct me if I'm wrong, But aren't free trials on Switch normally 1st party? Is this the 1st time for a 3rd party free trial?

Wouldn't be surprised if something similar is done with "It's About Time" eventually coming to Nintendo Switch.

It's these little things that Nintendo has mentioned and done regarding the Crash Bandicoot franchise that still gives me hope that Crash will join Super Smash Bros.
 
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, But outside of your usual and normal looking type of Switch controllers, I have only seen 1st party franchises like Mario and Pokemon get special edition Pro/Gamecube controllers.

I can't ever recall any other 3rd party franchise getting something like this even if it is being handled by "PowerA" Not even Sonic the Hedgehog and you would think he would of gotten something considering how cooperative both Nintendo/Mario and Sega/Sonic are.
The Witcher, Cuphead, Doom and Super Meat Boy all have officially licensed PowerA pro controllers. Crash Bandicoot has PowerA controllers because they wanted to slap his face on a controller. That's not a hint towards him being in Smash.
 

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And to expand on both my post as Chunkyslugger72's, here is an interview Reggie did on how the Skylanders collaboration came to be with Nintendo.

Nice find! I think this is SUPER important. Seriously. The fact that Activision came to them is a big deal to me. Aren't most people worried about Activision being difficult to work with when it comes to Crash? I think Skylanders should definately help alleviate those fears. Honestly this article started making me feel excited.
 

ChunkySlugger72

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The Witcher, Cuphead, Doom and Super Meat Boy all have officially licensed PowerA pro controllers. Crash Bandicoot has PowerA controllers because they wanted to slap his face on a controller. That's not a hint towards him being in Smash.
Well it may not mean much, But the Crash Bandicoot one is the only 3rd party one that I can ever recall seeing at your average retailer (Walmart/Target/Best Buy) other than Mario, Pokemon and plain ones.

Obviously chances are it probably means nothing, But it's still interesting to point out all the things I mentioned before and if Activision wants to slap Crash Bandicoot on everything then why not Smash?

That's why it's fun to speculate, We really don't know.
 
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MattX20

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Well it may not mean much, But the Crash Bandicoot one is the only 3rd party one that I can ever recall seeing at your average retailer (Walmart/Target/Best Buy) other than Mario, Pokemon and plain ones.

Obviously chances are it probably means nothing, But it's still interesting to point out all the things I mentioned before and if Activision wants to slap Crash Bandicoot on everything then why not Smash?

That's why it's fun to speculate, We really don't know.
Plus, there's at most 9-10 months left before we'll see the remaining 3 revealed and released going by the first 3 reveals/releases
 

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I don't know if this has ever been brought up here before or if it matters because it's sort of old news, But it has been on the back of my head for awhile now.

Why out of all 3rd party franchises and characters did Crash Bandicoot get a special edition "Pro Controller" alongside N.Sane Trilogy for the Nintendo Switch?

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Now correct me if I'm wrong, But outside of your usual and normal looking type of Switch controllers, I have only seen 1st party franchises like Mario and Pokemon get special edition Pro/Gamecube controllers.

I can't ever recall any other 3rd party franchise getting something like this even if it is being handled by "PowerA" Not even Sonic the Hedgehog and you would think he would of gotten something considering how cooperative both Nintendo/Mario and Sega/Sonic are.

Nintendo announcing N.Sane Trilogy for Switch was a pretty big announcement from them saying that Crash Bandicoot is a "Gaming Icon" and that the impossible happened with these once Playstation exclusives debuting on a Nintendo for the 1st time. Yes it came on Xbox and PC too, But they didn't really make it sound like a big deal about it compared to how Nintendo did.

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Then we have CTR: Nitro Fueled getting a free trial earlier this month that was kind of out of nowhere, You would think Nintendo would want people to focus on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe more, But just seems kind of weird they gave a 3rd party game like CTR the spotlight when it came out about a year and half ago and again correct me if I'm wrong, But aren't free trials on Switch normally 1st party? Is this the 1st time for a 3rd party free trial?

Wouldn't be surprised if something similar is done with "It's About Time" eventually coming to Nintendo Switch.

It's these little things that Nintendo has mentioned and done regarding the Crash Bandicoot franchise that still gives me hope that Crash will join Super Smash Bros.
I completely forgot about those controllers. I honestly may add this to the List. I know that having controllers doesn't mean a character is more likely for Smash, but it does mean that this is a franchise that Nintendo wants to promote the heck out of that it would make since, after all this promotion, to get Crash in their penultimate crossover.
 

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I honestly think we'll see all the remaining Fighter's Pass 2 characters before December because there is no way they could draw out the release of 3 characters in 11 months when they released and created 6 characters including Plant as a bonus with the last Pass in the same amount of time.
 
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Mr. Peepee

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Now that I think about it, I think there’s a realistic shot of Crash 4’s Switch port being revealed in the next Partners Showcase. It could be the big headline for that direct. Alternatively, Activision could just reveal it themselves but I think the former is likely to happen.
 

ChunkySlugger72

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Now that I think about it, I think there’s a realistic shot of Crash 4’s Switch port being revealed in the next Partners Showcase. It could be the big headline for that direct. Alternatively, Activision could just reveal it themselves but I think the former is likely to happen.
I can see that happening, I think the game is ultimately gonna be released at the earliest sometime in Spring (April or May) or like most Crash Bandicoot game announcements or releases Summer (June).
 
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