Mr. Peepee
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I wonder if Crash 4 will be coming to PC. Only reason I think is because they didn’t put Nitro Fueled but they put N Sane on PC for whatever reason.
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I wanted to double check to see exactly what these plans entailed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but getting Crash in Smash seems to be the least straightforward thing on this list. Everything else is purely on Activision on whether or not it gets done (even the mobile game, which was made by a subsidiary). They can't just go up to Nintendo and be like "Put Crash in your crossover thingy, you NERDS!": this requires negotiations. Perhaps the reason why people are taking the show being cancelled as a bad sign for Smash is because, based on that one claim that Activision made even NETFLIX (who are notorious for allowing ANYTHING on their platform) to want to avoid them, it could imply that Activision wanted something that Nintendo didn't want, be it a conflict in opinion on how he should be depicted or even just Activision got greedy again and were asking for too much of that sweet Smash money.The cartoon wasn’t on it, but at the same time this was likely made way later (2019/2020) so that means that Activision saw an opportunity to push crash more. Besides, it doesn’t matter since it got cancelled anyway.
but it was
2017: n sane
2018: port it
2019: ctr
2020: crash mobile and crash 4
2021: crash in smash
Cartoon Network (along with Nickelodeon, Netflix, Quibi, and HBO Max with some others) passed on distributing the cartoon, not because of the cartoon itself but more so with Activision (as far as why they did this deal originally with Amazon)What was going to be in the cartoon that made them want to strike a deal with amazon anyway? Crash's humor, especially Crash 4, is pretty much no more harsh than what's allowed on something like Cartoon Network, if shows like Gumball are any indication.
Pretty sure both medias got away with a pp joke in the same exact fashion. Plus, Amazon? Unless you're Netflix or Hulu, 9/10 chances are your show's going under the radar for years.
I don’t really believe this “leak”. The initial leak was from like 2018 or 2019 & was reported by several sites like Kotaku. They didn’t mention Smash & the Smash thing didn’t come up until last year AFAIK.The cartoon wasn’t on it, but at the same time this was likely made way later (2019/2020) so that means that Activision saw an opportunity to push crash more. Besides, it doesn’t matter since it got cancelled anyway.
but it was
2017: n sane
2018: port it
2019: ctr
2020: crash mobile and crash 4
2021: crash in smash
The Witcher, Cuphead, Doom and Super Meat Boy all have officially licensed PowerA pro controllers. Crash Bandicoot has PowerA controllers because they wanted to slap his face on a controller. That's not a hint towards him being in Smash.Now correct me if I'm wrong, But outside of your usual and normal looking type of Switch controllers, I have only seen 1st party franchises like Mario and Pokemon get special edition Pro/Gamecube controllers.
I can't ever recall any other 3rd party franchise getting something like this even if it is being handled by "PowerA" Not even Sonic the Hedgehog and you would think he would of gotten something considering how cooperative both Nintendo/Mario and Sega/Sonic are.
Nice find! I think this is SUPER important. Seriously. The fact that Activision came to them is a big deal to me. Aren't most people worried about Activision being difficult to work with when it comes to Crash? I think Skylanders should definately help alleviate those fears. Honestly this article started making me feel excited.And to expand on both my post as Chunkyslugger72's, here is an interview Reggie did on how the Skylanders collaboration came to be with Nintendo.
Reggie Explains Why Donkey Kong And Bowser Were Chosen For Skylanders SuperChargers
As well as how the Activision partnership came to bewww.nintendolife.com
Well it may not mean much, But the Crash Bandicoot one is the only 3rd party one that I can ever recall seeing at your average retailer (Walmart/Target/Best Buy) other than Mario, Pokemon and plain ones.The Witcher, Cuphead, Doom and Super Meat Boy all have officially licensed PowerA pro controllers. Crash Bandicoot has PowerA controllers because they wanted to slap his face on a controller. That's not a hint towards him being in Smash.
Plus, there's at most 9-10 months left before we'll see the remaining 3 revealed and released going by the first 3 reveals/releasesWell it may not mean much, But the Crash Bandicoot one is the only 3rd party one that I can ever recall seeing at your average retailer (Walmart/Target/Best Buy) other than Mario, Pokemon and plain ones.
Obviously chances are it probably means nothing, But it's still interesting to point out all the things I mentioned before and if Activision wants to slap Crash Bandicoot on everything then why not Smash?
That's why it's fun to speculate, We really don't know.
I completely forgot about those controllers. I honestly may add this to the List. I know that having controllers doesn't mean a character is more likely for Smash, but it does mean that this is a franchise that Nintendo wants to promote the heck out of that it would make since, after all this promotion, to get Crash in their penultimate crossover.I don't know if this has ever been brought up here before or if it matters because it's sort of old news, But it has been on the back of my head for awhile now.
Why out of all 3rd party franchises and characters did Crash Bandicoot get a special edition "Pro Controller" alongside N.Sane Trilogy for the Nintendo Switch?
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, But outside of your usual and normal looking type of Switch controllers, I have only seen 1st party franchises like Mario and Pokemon get special edition Pro/Gamecube controllers.
I can't ever recall any other 3rd party franchise getting something like this even if it is being handled by "PowerA" Not even Sonic the Hedgehog and you would think he would of gotten something considering how cooperative both Nintendo/Mario and Sega/Sonic are.
Nintendo announcing N.Sane Trilogy for Switch was a pretty big announcement from them saying that Crash Bandicoot is a "Gaming Icon" and that the impossible happened with these once Playstation exclusives debuting on a Nintendo for the 1st time. Yes it came on Xbox and PC too, But they didn't really make it sound like a big deal about it compared to how Nintendo did.
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Then we have CTR: Nitro Fueled getting a free trial earlier this month that was kind of out of nowhere, You would think Nintendo would want people to focus on Mario Kart 8 Deluxe more, But just seems kind of weird they gave a 3rd party game like CTR the spotlight when it came out about a year and half ago and again correct me if I'm wrong, But aren't free trials on Switch normally 1st party? Is this the 1st time for a 3rd party free trial?
Wouldn't be surprised if something similar is done with "It's About Time" eventually coming to Nintendo Switch.
It's these little things that Nintendo has mentioned and done regarding the Crash Bandicoot franchise that still gives me hope that Crash will join Super Smash Bros.
I can see that happening, I think the game is ultimately gonna be released at the earliest sometime in Spring (April or May) or like more recent Crash Bandicoot game announcements or releases Summer (June).Now that I think about it, I think there’s a realistic shot of Crash 4’s Switch port being revealed in the next Partners Showcase. It could be the big headline for that direct. Alternatively, Activision could just reveal it themselves but I think the former is likely to happen.
Why does Japan get the better song?Tried my hand at a Crash trailer a while back. Thought I'd share this with you guys.
Cross flair intro
The trailer begins the way K. Rool and Banjo's trailers began, only this time, after showing Donkey Kong and K. Rool, it shows Sephiroth and Cloud before the TV turns off. We then cut to Donkey Kong's mouth as he yawns for a bit before we get a full shot of the inside of the house, with the right-side wall looking hastily boarded up from the Banjo trailer. Donkey Kong is relaxing in front of the TV, Diddy is hanging from the tire, K. Rool is having his beauty sleep, Banjo is using the Kremling's belly as a makeshift pillow and Kazooie is, amusingly enough, playing Smash on a Nintendo Switch. And judging from her scrunched-up beak, she's losing.
Suddenly, a cartoonish POW! sound is heard and something flies past the screen as it smashes through the right wall, jolting Banjo & K. Rool awake. Kazooie pauses her game for a moment and whirls her head to the side from where the thing flew from. Donkey Kong hops onto his feet and turns to the hole in the wall before the camera cuts to the 5 popping their head out of the hole in the wall, looking around for who is presiding. A shadow jumps from the top of the screen and lands in front of them, causing them to squint. The camera pans up to a familiar figure with large ears and a pair of long arms...only for the figure to spin and reveal he's Incineroar, who lets out a roar before flashing a smug grin.
The five are left in shock as Incineroar belts out uproarious laughter. Suddenly, out of nowhere something whirls from the right and knocks the Heel Pokemon the heck off the screen with a spinning attack. It then looks over its shoulder and reveals a familiar marsupial...
CRASH Goes For A Spin!
The five are then shown looking at one another in shock and confusion as Crash has been known for fighting various humanoid animals like Dingodile and Ripper Roo before Crash leaps into the house and the sound of loud cartoonish fighting is heard.
We then cut to gameplay taking place on the Wumpa Islands stage, where Crash Bandicoot is shown to have a mobile playstyle involving crates, Wumpa fruits, and of course, spinning. We then see him taunt a bit, showing Aku Aku who smiles at Crash as a doting father would. We then see his Final Smash, which involves Crash putting Aku Aku on and charging forwards, catching multiple opponents. We are then shown a cutscene where Crash runs into a TNT crate that begins a timer. The timer runs out and the crate explodes creating a chain reaction with multiple other Nitro crates and TNT crates as Crash keeps running towards the captured fighters before he smashes past them, leaving them to their explosive demise.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Crash Bandicoot
We then show a final CG cutscene where Crash is calmed down and happily making up with his supposed adversaries, playing Smash with Kazooie all the while. Banjo, K. Rool, and the Kongs are watching evenly rooting for Crash or Kazooie. Donkey Kong then looks at the hole in the wall and back at the TV before it cuts to the outside of the Kongs' hut, where the TV is promptly thrown out of the house, where the screen promptly breaks and the machine itself is left in ruins.
@ 2018 Nintendo
Original Game: © Nintendo / HAL Laboratory, Inc.
Characters: © Nintendo / Hal Laboratory, Inc. / Pokémon. / Creatures Inc. / GAME FREAK inc. / SHIGESATO ITOI / APE inc. / INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS / Konami Digital Entertainment / SEGA / CAPCOM CO., LTD. / BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment Inc. / MONOLITHSOFT / CAPCOM USA., INC. / SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. / ATLUS / Microsoft / SNK CORPORATION. / Mojang AB / Activision Publishing, Inc.
Added detail: In my mind, the trailer music would differ per region: West will get a remix of Crash 1's theme, Japan will get the masterpiece that is Crash Banji-kyuusu.
...I have no idea. Just something that crossed my mind. Thinking about it right now, I can imagine that song being played in ALL regions. ...great, now I'm imagining multiple Smash characters in CGI doing the Crash Dance with him.Why does Japan get the better song?
May I ask how Crash ties in with these other characters? Is it just because they're western characters?Tried my hand at a Crash trailer a while back. Thought I'd share this with you guys.
Cross flair intro
The trailer begins the way K. Rool and Banjo's trailers began, only this time, after showing Donkey Kong and K. Rool, it shows Sephiroth and Cloud before the TV turns off. We then cut to Donkey Kong's mouth as he yawns for a bit before we get a full shot of the inside of the house, with the right-side wall looking hastily boarded up from the Banjo trailer. Donkey Kong is relaxing in front of the TV, Diddy is hanging from the tire, K. Rool is having his beauty sleep, Banjo is using the Kremling's belly as a makeshift pillow and Kazooie is, amusingly enough, playing Smash on a Nintendo Switch. And judging from her scrunched-up beak, she's losing.
Suddenly, a cartoonish POW! sound is heard and something flies past the screen as it smashes through the right wall, jolting Banjo & K. Rool awake. Kazooie pauses her game for a moment and whirls her head to the side from where the thing flew from. Donkey Kong hops onto his feet and turns to the hole in the wall before the camera cuts to the 5 popping their head out of the hole in the wall, looking around for who is presiding. A shadow jumps from the top of the screen and lands in front of them, causing them to squint. The camera pans up to a familiar figure with large ears and a pair of long arms...only for the figure to spin and reveal he's Incineroar, who lets out a roar before flashing a smug grin.
The five are left in shock as Incineroar belts out uproarious laughter. Suddenly, out of nowhere something whirls from the right and knocks the Heel Pokemon the heck off the screen with a spinning attack. It then looks over its shoulder and reveals a familiar marsupial...
CRASH Goes For A Spin!
The five are then shown looking at one another in shock and confusion as Crash has been known for fighting various humanoid animals like Dingodile and Ripper Roo before Crash leaps into the house and the sound of loud cartoonish fighting is heard.
We then cut to gameplay taking place on the Wumpa Islands stage, where Crash Bandicoot is shown to have a mobile playstyle involving crates, Wumpa fruits, and of course, spinning. We then see him taunt a bit, showing Aku Aku who smiles at Crash as a doting father would. We then see his Final Smash, which involves Crash putting Aku Aku on and charging forwards, catching multiple opponents. We are then shown a cutscene where Crash runs into a TNT crate that begins a timer. The timer runs out and the crate explodes creating a chain reaction with multiple other Nitro crates and TNT crates as Crash keeps running towards the captured fighters before he smashes past them, leaving them to their explosive demise.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Crash Bandicoot
We then show a final CG cutscene where Crash is calmed down and happily making up with his supposed adversaries, playing Smash with Kazooie all the while. Banjo, K. Rool, and the Kongs are watching evenly rooting for Crash or Kazooie. Donkey Kong then looks at the hole in the wall and back at the TV before it cuts to the outside of the Kongs' hut, where the TV is promptly thrown out of the house, where the screen promptly breaks and the machine itself is left in ruins.
@ 2018 Nintendo
Original Game: © Nintendo / HAL Laboratory, Inc.
Characters: © Nintendo / Hal Laboratory, Inc. / Pokémon. / Creatures Inc. / GAME FREAK inc. / SHIGESATO ITOI / APE inc. / INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS / Konami Digital Entertainment / SEGA / CAPCOM CO., LTD. / BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment Inc. / MONOLITHSOFT / CAPCOM USA., INC. / SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. / ATLUS / Microsoft / SNK CORPORATION. / Mojang AB / Activision Publishing, Inc.
Added detail: In my mind, the trailer music would differ per region: West will get a remix of Crash 1's theme, Japan will get the masterpiece that is Crash Banji-kyuusu.
That, and that they’re all animal characters and platformer characters, each of different styles. (Donkey Kong Country is 2D, Banjo-Kazooie is 3D, Crash Bandicoot is...pretty much all in between.)May I ask how Crash ties in with these other characters? Is it just because they're western characters?
…You had me up until you pulled the K. Rool fake-out stuff again. Never mind that Mario and Sonic should be involved in Crash’s trailer; doing that concept a third time is just ****ing lazy.Tried my hand at a Crash trailer a while back. Thought I'd share this with you guys.
Cross flair intro
The trailer begins the way K. Rool and Banjo's trailers began, only this time, after showing Donkey Kong and K. Rool, it shows Sephiroth and Cloud before the TV turns off. We then cut to Donkey Kong's mouth as he yawns for a bit before we get a full shot of the inside of the house, with the right-side wall looking hastily boarded up from the Banjo trailer. Donkey Kong is relaxing in front of the TV, Diddy is hanging from the tire, K. Rool is having his beauty sleep, Banjo is using the Kremling's belly as a makeshift pillow and Kazooie is, amusingly enough, playing Smash on a Nintendo Switch. And judging from her scrunched-up beak, she's losing.
Suddenly, a cartoonish POW! sound is heard and something flies past the screen as it smashes through the right wall, jolting Banjo & K. Rool awake. Kazooie pauses her game for a moment and whirls her head to the side from where the thing flew from. Donkey Kong hops onto his feet and turns to the hole in the wall before the camera cuts to the 5 popping their head out of the hole in the wall, looking around for who is presiding. A shadow jumps from the top of the screen and lands in front of them, causing them to squint. The camera pans up to a familiar figure with large ears and a pair of long arms...only for the figure to spin and reveal he's Incineroar, who lets out a roar before flashing a smug grin.
The five are left in shock as Incineroar belts out uproarious laughter. Suddenly, out of nowhere something whirls from the right and knocks the Heel Pokemon the heck off the screen with a spinning attack. It then looks over its shoulder and reveals a familiar marsupial...
CRASH Goes For A Spin!
The five are then shown looking at one another in shock and confusion as Crash has been known for fighting various humanoid animals like Dingodile and Ripper Roo before Crash leaps into the house and the sound of loud cartoonish fighting is heard.
We then cut to gameplay taking place on the Wumpa Islands stage, where Crash Bandicoot is shown to have a mobile playstyle involving crates, Wumpa fruits, and of course, spinning. We then see him taunt a bit, showing Aku Aku who smiles at Crash as a doting father would. We then see his Final Smash, which involves Crash putting Aku Aku on and charging forwards, catching multiple opponents. We are then shown a cutscene where Crash runs into a TNT crate that begins a timer. The timer runs out and the crate explodes creating a chain reaction with multiple other Nitro crates and TNT crates as Crash keeps running towards the captured fighters before he smashes past them, leaving them to their explosive demise.
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Crash Bandicoot
We then show a final CG cutscene where Crash is calmed down and happily making up with his supposed adversaries, playing Smash with Kazooie all the while. Banjo, K. Rool, and the Kongs are watching evenly rooting for Crash or Kazooie. Donkey Kong then looks at the hole in the wall and back at the TV before it cuts to the outside of the Kongs' hut, where the TV is promptly thrown out of the house, where the screen promptly breaks and the machine itself is left in ruins.
@ 2018 Nintendo
Original Game: © Nintendo / HAL Laboratory, Inc.
Characters: © Nintendo / Hal Laboratory, Inc. / Pokémon. / Creatures Inc. / GAME FREAK inc. / SHIGESATO ITOI / APE inc. / INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS / Konami Digital Entertainment / SEGA / CAPCOM CO., LTD. / BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment Inc. / MONOLITHSOFT / CAPCOM USA., INC. / SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. / ATLUS / Microsoft / SNK CORPORATION. / Mojang AB / Activision Publishing, Inc.
Added detail: In my mind, the trailer music would differ per region: West will get a remix of Crash 1's theme, Japan will get the masterpiece that is Crash Banji-kyuusu.
I know you don't like it, but there's always the "rule of three" comedy thing. I did it a 3rd time, then made sure it won't happen again at the end with DK destroying the TV. Regardless, I respect your opinion and can understand your reasoning.…You had me up until you pulled the K. Rool fake-out stuff again. Never mind that Mario and Sonic should be involved in Crash’s trailer; doing that concept a third time is just ****ing lazy.
I mean, one of them was the PS1 mascot and did not bomb in Japan. The other is rayman. Honestly, actually having a foothold in Japan and being a far larger franchise is a huge boon for crash chance wise. And I say this as someone who likes Rayman.I honestly am torn between Crash and Rayman.
Chance-wise, not want-wise. I definitely prefer Crash. I want both, but I severely doubt we'd get two mascot platformers in the same Fighter's Pass.
Both Activision and Ubisoft have been buddy-buddy with Nintendo.
Rayman Legends had Mario costumes, but Skylanders had Bowser and Donkey Kong as playable characters.
Crash Team Racing is one of the few non-Nintendo games to get a free online trial, but Mario had a crossover RPG with The Rabbids.
Rayman had a trophy in Smash Wii U, but Crash got his own Switch Pro Controller.
Both characters represent the best of the Platform genre along with Mario, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, Kirby, Sonic, and Banjo-Kazooie.
These characters are right at home with Nintendo, and it is a crime that we haven't gotten either of them yet.
Yes, but Rayman never had the drought that Crash did. I supported Crash in 2015's Fighter Ballot; he was my second most wanted after Banjo (WHOOP WHOOP, GOT HIM!), and he was all but ignored as an irrelevant character.I mean, one of them was the PS1 mascot and did not bomb in Japan. The other is rayman. Honestly, actually having a foothold in Japan and being a far larger franchise is a huge boon for crash chance wise. And I say this as someone who likes Rayman.
Banjo-Kazooie and King K. Rool got my votes back in the 2015 Smash ballot and like the title in Chuck Mangione's most famous song " Feels So Good !!!"Yes, but Rayman never had the drought that Crash did. I supported Crash in 2015's Fighter Ballot; he was my second most wanted after Banjo (WHOOP WHOOP, GOT HIM!), and he was all but ignored as an irrelevant character.
As a 90s kid, I remember Crash in his prime, and his fall from grace was massive. I wanted Crash to be as consistent as Mario and Sonic, so it warmed my heart to find that the reboot was a total success.
So Crash is definitely the bigger character, but Rayman probably got more votes in the 2015 Ballot.