Legality Tentative: MBR Official Ruleset for 2012

[Kal]

Our Marth dittos would be legendary wait for it... dary!

I'm pretty good at Marth dittos, though. My spacing is somewhat godly.

 

[Beat!]

I play with Hack regularly. You're in for a treat.

 

[Kal]

How exciting! Fox is my secondary. Can we make Hyrule legal?

 

[Varist]

He would just pick Bowser and camp the lowest platform.

BUT FIRST YOU'D HAVE TO CHEAT AT ROCK PAPER SCISSORS TO GET THE PORT FOR THE SPAWN CLOSEST TO THE BOTTOM LOLOLOL

 

[Beat!]

I thought we were gonna play on Big Blue... =(

I'm sorry, I don't think I can come anymore

 

[Kal]

We are. I'm just also turning on Hyrule in case I lose.

 

[Merkuri]

Another reason why things can't get done in this thread is because you people insist on acting babies instead of discussing the topic at hand.

 

[Divinokage]

And you are the one saying that? hahaha!

 

[Merkuri]

And you are the one saying that? hahaha!

Lol I find it funny that you don't post in this thread again until you see me post. Get off my ***.

 

[Divinokage]

Go to hell, I can do what I want just like you can.

 

[username12345678]

Another reason why things can't get done in this thread is because you people insist on acting babies instead of discussing the topic at hand.

I'm calling it now. You ARE GOING TO FAIL at Mixed Martial Arts.

I disagree. You are absolutely going to fail. You won't even do well enough to satisfy yourself. Furthermore I predict you're going to receive a permanent injury before you career is done. How severe the injury will be I have no idea, but the damage will be irreversible. And I will laugh at you for it.

It's all in fun anyways.

new strife makes a good point

 

[Kal]

You forgot the post where New Strife just bolded "you" a bunch.

 

[Merkuri]

new strife makes a good point

I'm sick of being compared to Strife. I joined Smashboards way before that user.

And those few posts between me and Kage isn't quite a bad as everyone talking about nothing for 2 pages.

 

[Divinokage]

Who gives a ****, you are still the new Strife. You are what you do after all, if you think I was trolling, that's hilarious. I just work with the truth.

 

[Kal]

And those few posts between me and Kage isn't quite a bad as everyone talking about nothing for 2 pages.

We can't all collectively be New Strife, New Strife.

 

[Varist]

teeheeheeeeeee

 

[Merkuri]

Well even talking about me is better than the non-sense that has been in this thread all evening.

 

[Divinokage]

I can somewhat play Marth dittos, I've been practicing it a little at Apex. MM? lol. I definitely learned that Marth is a tough character to master, gotta be extra precise with those hitboxes.. man. But when you do get those hits.. ahh so sexy.

 

[Varist]

Watching M2K go in on Leffen in crews was ****ing amazing. That was the sexiest comboing I've seen Marth do in a long time. M2K KNOWS what to do with his opponent's DI. Reacting to DI away with a tipper F-smash? wtf, no one saw that coming. I have no idea how Leffen stayed in hitstun long enough for some of those double jump nairs. he was really reaching there, but he ****ing got them.

Marth is still an amazing character imo. I don't like mentioning Ken, but there's merit in placing almost nothing but 1st for like 4 years with the same character. I don't think we've all gotten faster reaction times etc whatever, I just think Marth takes a smarter player.

 

[Divinokage]

It's hard to tell even with my 5 years of competitive experience, I can't really know if players have gotten better in all senses. But at the same time, it's possible, now that I'm fighting the monsters of the community often, I definitely know they have incredible reactions, experience, spacing, and decisions.. there's very little room for error now. If you look at vids from back in the day, the decisions were different and probably slower.

But ya M2k's comboing on spacies is absurd lol. I kinda wish i can do that with Marth, I guess it takes lots and lots of practice.

 

[Kal]

Yeah, I'm down for a money match Kage. I would prefer Marth vs. Ganon, however. And Marth, in my opinion, takes serious precision because his moves are the exact opposite of sex kicks. Their power is out initially, after which you are severely open for punishment. So if you're going to use anything, it has to count.

In my opinion, Marth is still top tier. His part in the metagame just needs to catch up a bit. I believe that the other characters have evolved to compensate for M2K's dominance, and hopefully now we'll see Marth evolving to compensate for the dominance of other characters (particularly Falco, Peach and Jigglypuff).

I mean, Marth vs. Falco was previously regarded as 60-40 in Marth's favor. Now it's slightly in Falco's favor? **** that. Hopefully we get a few really good Marths to start attending tournaments and responding to Falcos like Dr. Peepee and Jigglypuffs like Hungrybox and Mango. Hopefully one of those really good Marths will be me. *competitive glare* As far as I'm aware, the number of high-level Marth players has seriously dwindled since M2K's reign.

At the same time, if Marth does remain below the top four, I will have an excuse to look very smug when I win tournaments. Not as smug as Wobbles, though. That ****er wins with Ice Climbers. They're not even a real character.

 

[Varist]

i think the community should start actively sponsoring the growth of its characters' own metagames.

Everyone who goes to a tourney and plays Marth gets to have one more stock than their opponent.

So set stock to 5 for marth matches, opponent suicides, proceed with match.

If the whole tournament comes down to Marth dittos, well then MISSION ****ING ACCOMPLISHED.

 

[Kal]

pretty much that plus I'm just super saiyan times infinity

 

[Divinokage]

You would prefer Marth vs Ganon? It is my best match-up probably along with Falcon, it's going to be really tough lol. Also, Marth inside his shield isn't great either, he has limited options against spacies to counter that and also the shield itself is crappy.. he gets shield stabbed easily even with a full shield that's why it hurts him a lot compared to the other top tiers.

 

[Kal]

Yeah, he has vulnerabilities. But in the same way people asserted that Falco's tendency to get gimped made him weak against Marth, it's possible that there will be discoveries which make up for these things. The discoveries will likely be minute, but I am hopeful, likely because I main Marth, that Marth will become a boss again.

And yes, Marth vs. Ganon please. It's a matchup I'm pretty good at (though I'm sure you're a billion times better), and my spacing is pretty good which makes it very challenging for Ganon. And I'd rather play you at your best, if you would be so willing to humble me.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

This "new strife" stuff is ********. Strife was the new Merkuri

 

[Varist]

I was just assuming that Merkuri was fine and low-profile before but suddenly launched into an attitude of ignorance, conflicting standpoints on everything, immaturity and unwarranted self-importance

maybe the remnant spirit of Strife. But New Strife is easier and still very humiliating imo. but i'm obviously biased.

 

[Kal]

No, we're going to call him New Strife. We discovered Strife before we discovered New Strife, so we're going to call him New Strife. Maybe NS for short.

 

[Divinokage]

Yeah, he has vulnerabilities. But in the same way people asserted that Falco's tendency to get gimped made him weak against Marth, it's possible that there will be discoveries which make up for these things. The discoveries will likely be minute, but I am hopeful, likely because I main Marth, that Marth will become a boss again.

And yes, Marth vs. Ganon please. It's a matchup I'm pretty good at (though I'm sure you're a billion times better), and my spacing is pretty good which makes it very challenging for Ganon. And I'd rather play you at your best, if you would be so willing to humble me.

Sure, at some point if we ever get to play idk when.. we can do that.

Btw Strife was VBM, I know he was.. it was just an alternate personality.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Oh Kal, Merkuri was around like a year or two ago, basically being like his is now. He kinda disappeared after nobody took him serious and everyone called him out.

Wasnt VBM = Faab?

 

[Kal]

He's still New Strife. Don't ruin this for me, Sveet.

 

[Divinokage]

Oh Kal, Merkuri was around like a year or two ago, basically being like his is now. He kinda disappeared after nobody took him serious and everyone called him out.

Wasnt VBM = Faab?

Well it still appears that way, he's not any smarter than he was, still a ****.

 

[Merkuri]

Oh Kal, Merkuri was around like a year or two ago, basically being like his is now. He kinda disappeared after nobody took him serious and everyone called him out.

Wasnt VBM = Faab?

I disappeared because I went to study abroad, a lot interest in Smash for a while.

If you guys don't want to discuss the ruleset then why do you even post in here. There is a social thread specifically to discuss the nonsense that you guys like to chat about.

 

[Kal]

Because it's easier to troll you here?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

And this is the threads warning to stop trolling before i give out infractions like candy on halloween.

 

[Varist]

merkuri i love you you're my boyfriend i would never troll you

So something that I sort of half-heartedly brought up earlier, the Mute City thing. Having a stage with no ledges + forces you to move might be great if the metagame, god forbid, starts moving into camping/planking territory.

Should keep players practiced on that stage by slipping it into the ruleset so we can **** planking puffs should the need arise.

Another proposal, add history's earlier counterpicks back into the ruleset, totaling n, then give each player .5n Counterpick bans.

It might just keep coming back to the odd one out, Pokemon Stadium, but if neither competing player sees any merit in PS, then it might come down to some other counter pick that neither player felt like they needed to ban.

It will allot us more flavor, if anything.

edit: also jungles person the text under your name spells Kawaii with only one i. JUST SUPER SAIYAN

 

[Divinokage]

I don't think that's ever going to happen, you realize how easy it is to adapt to that especially with a floaty with multiple jumps? You make it seem like they will never go for edgeguards or anything like that. The weaknesses of the characters don't change, as soon as anyone is off-stage without a good recovery they will die automatically whether it's a campy or offensive player.

 

[Varist]

i legitimately didn't understand what you were talking about in that post. completely legitimately. i reread it 3 times but i'm just not...

like, i don't comprehend your meaning. what?

 

[Divinokage]

You said Mute City forces you to move, but the small platform in general gives the advantage to floaties because they can go off-stage without taking much risks.. however if another character does other than Jiggs and Peach, they will easily die. It won't change the metagame whatsoever. I was saying the weaknesses remain no matter what style the player is using. Small platform does force you to engage your opponent more but floaties still are completely advantaged.

 

[RaphaelRobo]

If that's the case, then isn't what we need a stage with walk off edges so everyone has the same advantage near the edge?