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She doesn't have magic, this is real life, no magic allowed.
♪ ****, I forgot about that. >.< †
Useless, against the sword yes, but Zelda's trademark weapon is the bow and arrow, which she'll be using too, in order to force an approach, or kill at range. Go carts are open on top, and predictably moving targets (takes some time for anything moving fast to turn), and as she gets closer a death-shot gets easier and easier. 999 times out of 1000 Zelda will kill her before she's close, even in pure planes. In every other enviroment, it's worse, every other enviroment has some obstructions Zelda can manuever to prevent herself from being hit.
As an actual swordfighter, I can tell you that her sword is NOT fragile. That's a well-made hand and a half sword (aka bast*** sword). It would break the bat, not vice-versa.
Incorrect, look at the sword, listen to how it clangs when it hits the ground, look at the lack of designs that actually inhibit function. Also look at the fact that in the game, she's established as having proficency with bow, nobody with proficency with a weapon would ever pick a cerimonial weapon of a type they have no expirience with in an actual battle. Especially not somebody with genius-level intelligence.
Being large doesn't mean that it takes a while to draw necessarily, though it can. It means you need to be practiced and strong because it requires more strength to fully draw and stores more power, which is not physically impossible for Zelda since she is a fully grown woman. Aiming CAN take a while though. Note that you don't NEED to fully draw the bow.I'm going with Samus vs Meta-Ridley?
@S.O.L.I.D.: Doesn't Zelda have a GAINT bow? If she manages to get it in there wouldn't it take a long time to set up her Bow and arrow (I am assuming it's big because of brawl, but I'm ignorant with LoZ so i'm probably wrong)
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I don't think transformations are allowed since we had Sheik vs ZSS, that applies to Tetra aswell I think
Bat's are still quite strong, if it's real life and you get hit by a bat or a golf club it's hard to get up, it's up to who gets hit first.
She used her parasol as a shield and it was extremly strong, an parasol in real life might be weak but maybe it can be reinforced with something.
She also has a bike. But I don't think karts or bikes are allowed. are they?
Ok
I'm just saying that in brawl she takes her arrow into one hand as if it was nothing it should be heavier than that, I meant if she didn't aim well she could easily miss, by the time it takes her to aim Peach could just throw some bombs on her.
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I questioned that, a parasol can't be indestructable but maybe it could be reinforced with something? It's just a desperate attempt it was on Super Paper Mario, but you do raise a good point, how could Zelda have a bow and a sword?
☆ Playing Super Paper Mario will help you very much. Also I don't know much about Zelda to vote, I never did like LoZ titles so I wouldn't know. ☆
It can be strong if the actual umbrella part is like metal or something, but that would be a very odd umbrella. They're usually some sort of soft, plastic-ish material taht aren't that hard to puncture. The handle can be hard and metalic, but its just not as efficient as alot of other objects. An umbrella makes for an awkward shield.
That's not a valid argument. This is IRL.
And I've beaten and re-beaten that game like ten times. Its fun!
☆ My bad then, I though you didn't know. I already know the rules of this thread, and as I stated, I can't vote because I don't know what can Zelda do without her magic. ☆That's not a valid argument. This is IRL.
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Lol, yea. I'm actually annoyed at that game being so anti-feminist by making her fight using... PMS, seriously. Low blow nintendo.
I'm refering to expirience with actual weaponry, not just games that she fought. Proficency in weapon fighting requires a TON of out of game time (or in-game if you're an rpg).
Did I forget to point that out. It's durable, but it's not particularly powerful.
I mean abnormally so. She's athletic, but doesn't seem to show an enormous amount of powess.
Sheik it's arguable that she aquires those abilities due to the transformation, though it seems entirely cosmetic.
Understand, blunt weapon need to hit full on in order to do damage, whereas cutting weapons can deal signifigant damage with a glancing blow. This is a major advantage in battles without heavy armor.
Against a hand and a half sword, if for no other reason, it would have the leverage. It would have to have sheets of some kind of metal on the top, and be thick, otherwise it would become deformed and useless after a few blows.
As I explained earlier, doesn't really help, the only weapon's advantage they give her is ramming, and the bow destroys that.
From the range that Peach could throw bombs and hit her, hitting her would be immensly easy and require almost no aiming.
Yes, but we're talking about Zelda, not any particular Zelda. If we wanna restrict it to TP Zelda, Windwaker Zelda, OoT Zelda, Link's Awakening Zelda, The Adventures of Link Zelda, or any other Zelda, we could, but Smash Zelda is representative of all those Zeldas.
The thing with that is... Zelda is a princess, while she hasn't been shown to carry one, it's extremely obvious that she has the resources to buy one, and if she was carrying both, she'd have it. She also has a quiver, which she could hang the bow on in a pinch. Or she could just camp.
I honestly knew that you or somebody else would say that.
fair enough...or not.
The main thing is it's quite obvious that if she owns item, she owns the essential equiptment to carry it. Unlike with Marth where it would an upgrade, with Zelda it's an essential, you just didn't own a sword and not own a sheath unless you stole the sword (princess, she doesn't need to).I honestly knew that you or somebody else would say that.
Oh, and the thing with the "having the resources" to acquire a quiver or pouch or whatevs, is that alot of people have the "resources" to acquire something that could help them in the battle. Like, Marth would "have the resources" to acquire better armor in his match against Link. It may be a little different in other cases, but it doesn't seem too different IMO.
Lol, nah, this is more me knowing a bit TOO much about medieval culture in relation to weapons. Obsessive multi-cultural martial artist if you didn't get that already.I see and understand. Dang it; I just can't think clearly...
Yeah, it is quite akward but it's better than some others since it covers her entire bodyIt can be strong if the actual umbrella part is like metal or something, but that would be a very odd umbrella. They're usually some sort of soft, plastic-ish material taht aren't that hard to puncture. The handle can be hard and metalic, but its just not as efficient as alot of other objects. An umbrella makes for an awkward shield.
.I don't think so, unless you count training mode in sports games, but I don't think so.
I just thought I would thought I would point that out since it was quite powerful in Super Paper Mario
They are from Super Mario RPG, you just pull them out and throw, except for a few second charging them up.
Ok
I think it shouldn't be allowed as Zelda's abilties didn't count, but I think it's best to wait for Joe!.
I understand that swords can attack faster and doesn't take as much effort it's much easiear(sp?), blunt objects do take longer but it doesn't require a huge amout power to attack but I do understand what you mean. (I think) If she has more range than Zelda I would see it being somewhat even
It was extremly powerful, I would imagine it was covered in a couple of sheets of metals
Well it would have been good for evading attacks.
I think Brawl/Melee is the only we can find the difference between them, Zelda is taller but not that much bigger.
It wouldn't take long to throw her bombs aswell.
Rofl; yeah, that's pretty cool. Its more the Yoshi/Ivysaur match-up.
Man, I'm still feeling the sting off that one; that was a disaster... Rofl. I seem to vote the eventual loser lately, namely Yoshi and Ray. Technically, my chosen character is winning this time, but only because this match is so unfair.
Forget this post....
It doesn't cover a lot of her body, only her arms, chest and her upper thigh, the lazy shell was like the ultimate defence in RPG but weakened her attack by half, so that might not be helpful.If Peach could use her armor from Strikers (the one in your signature, Justaway), she could actually stand up to Zelda.
I was mostly just joking.
No, Zelda takes this by a landslide. I'm done here at this match-up; didn't do much. 
Doesn't teach how to use it as a weapon, and that's the important thing here.
I understand. Too ackward to use as a shield though, and not too realistic unless metal-plated.
I meant "how the explosion occurs", I checked around a bit and there don't seem to be animations or anything around, you know where I could find them.
Her magical abilities, but I'm saying that there's no reason to believe that the magic used is anything other then cosmetic, because it's entirely realistic for Zelda to aquire those abilities through simple training.
Swords don't always attack faster, depends on the weapon. My kali sticks attack a lot faster then a longsword.
That would be very odd, but it would make it extremely ackward, and also quite heavy. Making it thin enough to be carried without being ackward would mean that this is a problem.
Yea, but you can't really attack from either except ramming, which means she has no means of defense.
It's not about difference between the two. I need her height to figure out how large her bat would be.
Depends on the mechanics of the bombs, but yes. But combat would probably start at a range well beyond that.
Nah, they LOOKED like the OoT/TP Zelda, it's established that Link is omni-Link due to the constant references to other Links, therefore since Zelda is in the same situation, it applies to her as well, that and certain attributes reference to other games (especially costume changes).
I thought we were talking about TP/OoT Zelda since those were the ones in Brawl/Melee
...Well, that's all I got
Not steel, Aluminium. Aluminium is reletively soft though, whereas steel is a great deal stronger, and Zelda's sword is steel.
Access=/=ability to use.♡Goodness me! Is this matchup over?
♡I was about to say something...^__^;
♡Anywho...Princess Peach is known for being low powered but agile and technical (Strategic) in most, if not all sports games. Hurray for third person narratives.
♡She is also capable of doing somersaults, as seen in Super Mario Strikers.
♡She is also known for having given Yoshi and Mario a SUPER SCOPE in a game called Yoshi's Safari. (Whether she can use it in this fight is unknown, but there is actually proof that she has access to these kinds of things and no implications of her having access to firearms is needed.)
♡Princess Peach is good at Archery,Pitching, Vault(leaping over obstacles) and Aquatics. Don't judge a princess by her cover.
♡Zelda isn't the only one who has long ranged attacks!
♡Zelda isn't shown to be nearly as speedy as her counterpart, Sheik, and Peach is known for having good Aim too. Peach can do a wide variety of things such as smacking a tennis ball, pitching a baseball,putting a golfball or kicking a soccer ball at Zelda's face..with precision of course!
♡When stunned (or knocked out) Peach will be able to pummel Zelda with a racket, bat, club, frying pan, or without any weapons. She has quite a lot of options to choose from! ^__^
♡Of course...if we included the super scope, things would be even easier.
♡Peach is a tad bit too quick for Zelda....and the only reason she gets captured is an excuse to give Mario a little present.
♡Well...that was my two cents! I hope I was able to contribute! ^__^
