TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT

[Sieguest]

PFFT, fast? since when? He has always been a slug who can only reach 21 speed points because of his lack of muscles.

And his attacks are so slow and his sword skills are so bad that he rarely hits his opponent.

^what game are you playing son? and lack of muscles doesn't mean someone is uber slow...

I'm a very slender build, and I'm not muscular
I outrun everyone on the track team, and I'm not even in track get that hmm?

once again- stats are game mechanics...they're not going to apply in real life
*points to lucario discussion*

Marth has long legs=long strides=ground covered quickly.

and for the record...my marth has 25 speed get at me! and I still get doubled my medeus on H5 difficulty lol

I don't see why there are points when it's like
"stats are a game mechanic and can't be used" and times when "well he has so and so stats so so and so must be true"

make up your mind...

 

[payasofobia]

PFFT, fast? since when? He has always been a slug who can only reach 21 speed points because of his lack of muscles.

And his attacks are so slow and his sword skills are so bad that he rarely hits his opponent with his bad 14 points of skill. And lack of muscles.

Now, joking, bias and extremesaurus aside, we shouldn't compare Ike to Marth in anything.

Comparing Ike to Marth in a fight is like comparing a hill to a mountain.

Ike is muscular, athletic, has awesome equipment, is cold (not even his father's death affected him in battle) he is the best warrior of his world and he is very experienced.

Marth is weak, bony, lacks armor, it's prone to let feelings get in the way of the job, he is bad with the sword and he is a spoiled 15 years old rich boy who never experienced real fights before the fall of kingdom and who was hated by his father for being too weak.

 

[JOE!]

by speed he meant how fast he could attack.

anywho, to end the sily bug debate:

Rhino Beetle wins, strongest living thing on earth


@paya

ive noticed something:

people who are good chars in melee/brawl usually suck in rl or in their games compared to other guys...

(cept the spacies...)

 

[payasofobia]

JOE!: Yes, all the strong guys are really bad in smash.


Example: canonicaly, Radiant Dawn's Ike is basicaly invincible as long as he does not have ragnell with him. He was blessed by an A-class goddess and the only thing that can harm him is a weapon blessed by said goddess. If he does not bring Ragnell into the fight, nothing can stop him.

I would say that not even Samus could stop him.


Yet, in brawl, he gets tossed around by everyone who is too fast for him to handle.

 

[tocador]

by speed he meant how fast he could attack.

anywho, to end the sily bug debate:

Rhino Beetle wins, strongest living thing on earth


@paya

ive noticed something:

people who are good chars in melee/brawl usually suck in rl or in their games compared to other guys...

(cept the spacies...)

1 Rhino Bee vs 30 Giant hornets?

In the silly battle suggested by JOE! saying rhino > all

who

will

get

*****?

Spoiler

Of course we know giant hornets > Rhino bee, but lets let JOE! have some fun.

by speed he meant how fast he could attack.

anywho, to end the sily bug debate:

Rhino Beetle wins, strongest living thing on earth


@paya

ive noticed something:

people who are good chars in melee/brawl usually suck in rl or in their games compared to other guys...

(cept the spacies...)

Mewtwo anyone?

 

[UncleSam]

by speed he meant how fast he could attack.

anywho, to end the sily bug debate:

Rhino Beetle wins, strongest living thing on earth

proportionally.
plus it isn't bad*** enough.

 

[REL38]

I say we stick to the squad fight.

Discussing 1 vs 1 fight isn't doing much when we all know Ike would win that :/

 

[Sieguest]

Now, joking, bias and extremesaurus aside, we shouldn't compare Ike to Marth in anything.

Comparing Ike to Marth in a fight is like comparing a hill to a mountain.

Ike is muscular, athletic, has awesome equipment, is cold (not even his father's death affected him in battle) he is the best warrior of his world and he is very experienced.

Marth is weak, bony, lacks armor, it's prone to let feelings get in the way of the job, he is bad with the sword and he is a spoiled 15 years old rich boy who never experienced real fights before the fall of kingdom and who was hated by his father for being too weak.

bias bias and more bias still...
you're comparisons are biased...
you're explanations are exxaggerated...
no joke- get your facts straight...

btw I ran the 40 in 4.6 seconds.

 

[payasofobia]

JOE!: Yes, all the strong guys are really bad in smash.


Example: canonicaly, Radiant Dawn's Ike is basicaly invincible as long as he does not have ragnell with him. He was blessed by an A-class goddess and the only thing that can harm him is a weapon blessed by said goddess. If he does not bring Ragnell into the fight, nothing can stop him.

I would say that not even Samus could stop him.


Yet, in brawl, he gets tossed around by everyone who is too fast for him to handle.

Marthage: But I bet you cannot outrun Mario Williams, the defensive end for the Houston Texans. He has close to 300 pounds of muscle and fat, and he runs the 40 yard dash in under 5 seconds.

Also, Ike's muscles and swords not being heavy by default ( not even broadswords are that heavy) would make his attacks fast.


EDIT: Are you sure you are not bull****ting?

Or are you sure your body is not like this?

Muscle is still muscle, even if it is not the huge, bulging type.

 

[UncleSam]

Mewtwo anyone?

Bottom
Ness 2.50
Yoshi 2.46
Bowser 2.17
Mewtwo 1.77
Kirby 1.50
Pichu 1.15

... nuff said, and M2 hasn't even won a match, he got 2 draws.

 

[tocador]

Marthage: But I bet you cannot outrun Mario Williams, the defensive end for the Houston Texans. He has close to 300 pounds of muscle and fat, and he runs the 40 yard dash in under 5 seconds.

Also, Ike's muscles and swords not being heavy by default ( not even broadswords are that heavy) would make his attacks fast.

Marthage is jeezus christ man, when i dared him to lift a 4ton car, he did it. He just that badass.

But of course not as badass as the blind ants or the giant hornets.

 

[UncleSam]

EDIT: Are you sure you are not bull****ting?

Or are you sure your body is not like this?

Muscle is still muscle, even if it is not the huge, bulging type.

actually that picture depicts marthage pretty well

 

[tocador]

... nuff said, and M2 hasn't even won a match, he got 2 draws.

Taj mewtwo was ranked 7.8 on TL(yeah i know its a joke, but he is that gud, 2gud).

And sheer unluckyness on m2 part. Put him agaisnt anyone besides samus/psy user, and he crushes them apart :O.

 

[payasofobia]

actually that picture depicts marthage pretty well

He is a tall, Jamaican,muscular man with a slender skeletal frame?

 

[Sieguest]

Marthage: But I bet you cannot outrun Mario Williams, the defensive end for the Houston Texans. He has close to 300 pounds of muscle and fat, and he runs the 40 yard dash in under 5 seconds.

Also, Ike's muscles and swords not being heavy by default ( not even broadswords are that heavy) would make his attacks fast.


EDIT: Are you sure you are not bull****ting?

Or are you sure your body is not like this?

Muscle is still muscle, even if it is not the huge, bulging type.

Not BSing...
I'm not as muscular as that man, but I'm not scrawny- I'm more of a slender build. (I'm black too if that makes any difference )

@Toc-lifting a car is really not that bad...with just by lifting it in a way that's like a lever, it's a lot easier! :D

 

[kirbywizard]

This match will end a draw! WHy you ask?

Because when Ike finally sees Marth's beautiful body he will be over taken by love
While Marth will fall head over heals for Ike just by looking at his muscles. They both love each other so much that they get married, and adopt three children

 

[UncleSam]

He is a tall, Jamaican,muscular man with a slender skeletal frame?

Not BSing...
I'm not as muscular as that man, but I'm not scrawny- I'm more of a slender build. (I'm black too if that makes any difference )

^^^^^ this.
...
strength vs. numbers
IDK

 

[payasofobia]

How is he going to fall in love with Ike if he is his son?

http://saladbowl.deviantart.com/art/New-Comer-IKE-68908872

Unless it is *GASP* INCEST!?

 

[tocador]

Not BSing...
I'm not as muscular as that man, but I'm not scrawny- I'm more of a slender build. (I'm black too if that makes any difference )

@Toc-lifting a car is really not that bad...with just by lifting it in a way that's like a lever, it's a lot easier! :D

I know that, but dude, 4ton car is too much ><.

Even with the maximun lever you can use, you would get:

Momentuum = distance * force

But, you need to life the car by doing a bigger force then the car weights, tho:

distance * force > weight(mass*gravity)N.

With a distance of maximum 5 metters, and with a weight of 4 ton, you would pretty much need to do at least 801 newtwons of force, which quite honestly, is pretty dam hard to.

Edit: Im a physics geek, so what, sue me =/.

 

[payasofobia]

I bet I could lift a car with one finger.

I mean, I have beaten hornets multiple times in my life.

 

[JOE!]

beetle wins cus the hornets cannot penetrate the beetle's armor (much tougher than a bee) and it has the big squisher horns.


Anywho, waiting on Adum to end this pretty much.

 

[tocador]

I bet I could lift a car with one finger.

I mean, I have beaten hornets multiple times in my life.

I bet i could make babies with my pubic hair, i mean, i have beaten ants lots of times in my life.

beetle wins cus the hornets cannot penetrate the beetle's armor (much tougher than a bee) and it has the big squisher horns.


Anywho, waiting on Adum to end this pretty much.

Hornet has a exoskeleton just as tough as the bee.

But the hornet besides flying faster, and having a sting-thingy, he has poison, which is lethal to most small animals(like beetles/small birds/you get the point).

Hornet wins GG.

 

[Sieguest]

Toc, you didn't account for the work the lever does.

In concept- you have two simple machines working for you.
A wheel and axel and a lever.

yes you need more work than the cars weight...but with the combined amplifying of your initial force through these simple machines your doing about near half if not more than the total work required

 

[payasofobia]

beetle wins cus the hornets cannot penetrate the beetle's armor (much tougher than a bee) and it has the big squisher horns.


Anywho, waiting on Adum to end this pretty much.

I just hope he goes pro-Ike.

 

[tocador]

Toc, you didn't account for the work the lever does.

In concept- you have two simple machines working for you.
A wheel and axel and a lever.

yes you need more work than the cars weight...but with the combined amplifying of your initial force through these simple machines your doing about near half if not more than the total work required

Yes i counted.

Using the maximum distance from the pole(5 metters is my example), you only need to do 1/5 of the force you were suposed to do(the distance from the pole to were you aply the force). So in theory, with no lever work, you would be suposed to do 4.000N of strenght(almost impossible), whereas in fact you did only 800N(801 to move it).

 

[UncleSam]

beetle wins cus the hornets cannot penetrate the beetle's armor (much tougher than a bee) and it has the big squisher horns.

rhinoceros beetle is balls. it's too heavy too fly and is weak from the back, it's also slow.
our bad*** hornets on the other hand and fly around it, poison it, and rip it's puny head off.
and you're description describes Hercules beetles.
which are a sub-species of them...
>.>

 

[payasofobia]

We should (and I mean we should REALLY) do a 30,000 hornets vs someone from brawl fight.

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Vote for Bub and Bob. Stop the master chief tyrany.

 

[UncleSam]

no 1 million army ants vs. samus

 

[Sieguest]

Yes i counted.

Using the maximum distance from the pole(5 metters is my example), you only need to do 1/5 of the force you were suposed to do(the distance from the pole to were you aply the force). So in theory, with no lever work, you would be suposed to do 4.000N of strenght(almost impossible), whereas in fact you did only 800N(801 to move it).

That only counted for one simple machine
You still have another simple machine to factor in.

really your only lifting 160n...

 

[payasofobia]

Why not 1 million army ants vs 30,000 hornets?

 

[tocador]

That only counted for one simple machine
You still have another simple machine to factor in.

really your only lifting 160n...

........

No........

Were is the math behind your 160N :O, i really aint seeing it.

Edit:1 Hornet vs Jiglypuff.

I think hornet wins.....

 

[UncleSam]

Why not 1 million army ants vs 30,000 hornets?

great idea:
1 Million:

vs.
30,000:

some of the most epic bugs going at it.
which force is deadlier?

 

[Sieguest]

........

No........

Were is the math behind your 160N :O, i really aint seeing it.

Edit:1 Hornet vs Jiglypuff.

I think hornet wins.....

You account for the lever yes...
the cuts 1/5 of the force required to lift the car...

You are also assisted by a wheel and axel (the wheel which pivots as you raise the car) That cuts the required force even more.

so from 800x(1/5)=160

 

[tocador]

You account for the lever yes...
the cuts 1/5 of the force required to lift the car...

You are also assisted by a wheel and axel (the wheel which pivots as you raise the car) That cuts the required force even more.

so from 800x(1/5)=160

I imagined that, but even tho, you dont divide it by 5 again you silly.

The distance with the axel and the wheel is diferent, therefore the lever force is diferent. By my knowlodge, with the axel and stuff you should onlt do 1/3 of the force, not 1/5 :O.

Therefore you would do, 266N approx of strenght :D.

ps: I thought you were using bare hands ><.

 

[tocador]

great idea:
1 Million:

vs.
30,000:

some of the most epic bugs going at it.
which force is deadlier?

Him.

Chuck norris always win, you fool.

And just because i have a CN image i can DP. Take that modds!

 

[Sieguest]

I imagined that, but even tho, you dont divide it by 5 again you silly.

The distance with the axel and the wheel is diferent, therefore the lever force is diferent. By my knowlodge, with the axel and stuff you should onlt do 1/3 of the force, not 1/5 :O.

Therefore you would do, 266N approx of strenght :D.

ps: I thought you were using bare hands ><.

eh...just rough estimating...but you get the point...
You severely cut how much work needs to be done to lift the car...
266n is doable :D

 

[tocador]

Yeah, 266 is doable.

But with the axel....

Do it with bare hands and im your fan *-*

 

[JOE!]

we cannot do that fight because it breaches 9000 units.

also, a MYM figth will be up next

 

[payasofobia]

Manly Yaoi Males?

DO NOT WANT!

 

[Sieguest]

Yeah, 266 is doable.

But with the axel....

Do it with bare hands and im your fan *-*

whaddya mean bare hands...I did use my hands...

by wheel and axel I mean on the side opposite of where I'm lifting. work is multipled through there lol!