Target test only has five maps now. Oh.

[PITforREV]

I don't even understand why sakurai's messing aorund with difficulties on break the targets....Just give each character their own stage adn if you really want difficutly setting make it so only 5 targets are thee in easy, etc, etc......It just doesnt make sense, people dont have to be able to beat BTT easily...if you play at a similar difficutly your ogign to get BORED of this trust me...and the freaking ways of using your character's abilities will not be nearly as cool....Sakurai wit hthis you simply-FAIL....

Dumb move bud.

 

[Red Exodus]

I'm starting to see the logic behind the 5 stages * 5 difficulties argument. I think that is was will happen seeing as 5 stages * 5 difficulties * 30 characters = 750 stages would be an extreme number, even for sakurai.

 

[QuantumCat]

First off, if you read the ****ing captions instead of browsing the pictures like some illiterate idiot you would know that yes, there are items in some stages. Also revealed in the captions is the following:

It’s outdoors now, giving it a refreshing visual appearance. This time, there are five different maps of varying difficulty—challenges you can take on with your favorite character.

Each of the five maps is distinctive.

Use all of your character’s skills to beat your own personal records!

If you read this bold ***t you can clearly see that there are obviously 5 maps, each a different dificulty. 5 maps. A bunch of characters. Same maps for each character. 5*1= five god dam maps. Get over it. Read instead of looking at the pretty pictures.

 

[Jammer]

Yes, I agree that the English site, while ambiguous, does point strongly to their being only 5 stages.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

replaying ftw, even though it's only 3 minutes.
btt seems alright, but i hope it's 5 stages for EACH character.

 

[Jumpinjahosafa]

I guess we wont truly know until it comes out. Or another update.

 

[QuantumCat]

I guess we wont truly know until it comes out. Or another update.

Or until you learn to read english. It clearly says there are 5 stages for you to try with ALL THE CHARACTERS. that means 5 stages that you chose which character to be on.

 

[ozg82889]

hmm Sakurai is bringing back elements from ssb64. so if he decides to make Luigi unlockable after beating BtT with all the starters like in 64 and if we have 20 starters and we have 5 maps with diffrent layouts per character. So it would be 5*20=100. we would have to beat 100 BtT just to get luigi. i don't think i would be able to spend that much time trying to get him.

 

[Bajef8]

Or until you learn to read english. It clearly says there are 5 stages for you to try with ALL THE CHARACTERS. that means 5 stages that you chose which character to be on.

yeah about it clearly saying it has 5 stages for all characters; is it really that clear if a topic was made about it being unclear and half of the people here saying that they think the opposite?

put that through your all-knowing noodle.

 

[vesperview]

I don't mind, Target test is not a favorite of mine, I preferred the stand on the platforms from SSB64, hopefully it'll make a return the way Meowth did.

 

[Kittah4]

If there were 5 stages and 5 difficulty modes for each stage, thats 25 stages. Multiplied by 40 characters (estimated) would be 1000 records to set. Now that sounds excessive. Professionals would have to devote months or years to target test, or else specialize in a difficulty level.
I'm guessing there will only be 5 total. the BTT stage you get on classic mode (if its still there), will correspond to what difficulty you're playing on. Even with only five fairly generic stages to set records on, you're looking at 200 records to set.
Now, I dont see the generic stages as being a bad thing. Some in Melee were obviously tacked on and others were thought out. Five well thought out stages for us to memorize, then go through with about 40 different characters.
I can see professionals offically numbering (or even naming) specific targets in the maps. In MKs stage (the Normal map) you have the "threaded quadruplet" on the upper right, the "angry eye" below that, and the "flag" below that.
But really, I don't know. Whatever it is, Im sure developing five strategies for each character will be a lofty goal.

 

[GreatClayMonkey]

Its definetly 5 a character because then there would be no point in playing it as diffrent characters because some characters would be better also why take a step back

 

[Yeroc]

Kittah wins this thread.

Oh, and the targets are numbered according to the order they're hit.

 

[pirkid]

It seems to me like 5 maps per character as well. The targets change color depending on the difficulty type.

So each map is a different difficultly. Each character has 5 maps for the five difficulties, not 25 maps...

 

[baheffron]

Good thing I don't care about target test.

 

[MzNetta]

Umm, excuse me if I am mistaken, but I took the update as meaning that Each character has 5 target tests each, with varying difficulties...

If there is something in the update completely denying this, please let me know.

 

[Kittah4]

Ok, pretend you knew nothing about target test for a second:

This time, there are five different maps of varying difficulty—challenges you can take on with your favorite character.

In this game, there are five maps, and they vary in difficulty. In other words, forget about how BTT was before. One of the five maps is harder than the other five maps and one is easier and so on. Still going with this, we see that there are five challenges and they each can be done with your favorite character. That's just from the first telling sentence.

Each of the five maps is distinctive.
There is nothing to indicate that each character has five maps. Instead, BTT maps are treated more like Stages that Characters JOIN, instead of the old BTT where characters POSSESSED a BTT. All he's saying here is that each of the five maps is different (while from the screens they don't look TOO different to me yet.)

Some levels have items as well, so you may be able to use them to cut your time even more.
From this all we can tell is that some of the 5 maps will have items, and others won't. Let us hope they will be standardized and not random items.

Anything else you read into the update is just reading into the update based on information we've had before about the Smash Bros series. It's pretty clear from the language that there are exactly 5 challenges of differing difficulty (nevermind that it appears like they even correspond to the difficulty colors), and you can take these challenges with your favorite character. In other words, pick a character, pick one of the five challenges. I can no longer even see how you can read more stages and more stages per character into it.

 

[Symphony X]

To me, it seems like 5 different maps for each character, notice they change color.

 

[MzNetta]

Well thats a drag.
Boo.

EDIT:

Lol at the above post.

 

[StellaNova]

You know what.... NEVERMIND THIS DEBATE! They SHOULD give us FIVE LEVELS per character! With all the extra time they are taking, I am now EXPECTING IT.

 

[Eratangos]

It really is just 5 stages. I am actually excited that there are 5 stages per character instead of 1. I don't want Stadium to be the main attraction, this is SSBBrawl, not SSBStadium, they should spend time designing stages for brawl, and balancing the characters. This is a side game that just happens to be awesome, and I think it got more awesome.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Like I said before, if you really think about it, there are five stages per character. Well...let me rephrase that. There are five BTT strategies per character. Playing the Easy stage with Yoshi and then playing it with Diddy Kong will be two completely different BTTs with completely different strategies. It's a unique experience with each character on each stage. So that would make 5 x (# of characters) unique BTT experiences. This is much more diverse than the BTT in the previous two Smash games.

 

[Mikezor]

I prefer only 5 target tests with 5 difficulties in all, because when I get the game I hope to beat these as fast as possible to unlock whatever, so I can move on to the main game, beating each other up, not the targets. 5 maps for each character x5 for difficulty, HOLY MOFO ZOMAGADA TOO MUCH WORK.

 

[estion11]

I have come up with two logical explanations after reading it over and over until i had a headache. The first being there are 5 maps each with 5 difficulties. My second theory is that there is one maps for each character each with 5 difficulties, this isn't directly implied from the update, but its still is plausible based on what was said. The post can be read: "5 different maps of varying difficulty", meaning each arrangement of platfroms and targets on each characters stage is considered a map. You have to read it over and over again a bunch of times to really understand what im saying

Edit: I still think that there are only going to be 5 maps for all characters though which im glad about

 

[Hydde]

Ok, pretend you knew nothing about target test for a second:

This time, there are five different maps of varying difficulty—challenges you can take on with your favorite character.

In this game, there are five maps, and they vary in difficulty. In other words, forget about how BTT was before. One of the five maps is harder than the other five maps and one is easier and so on. Still going with this, we see that there are five challenges and they each can be done with your favorite character. That's just from the first telling sentence.

Each of the five maps is distinctive.
There is nothing to indicate that each character has five maps. Instead, BTT maps are treated more like Stages that Characters JOIN, instead of the old BTT where characters POSSESSED a BTT. All he's saying here is that each of the five maps is different (while from the screens they don't look TOO different to me yet.)

Some levels have items as well, so you may be able to use them to cut your time even more.
From this all we can tell is that some of the 5 maps will have items, and others won't. Let us hope they will be standardized and not random items.

Anything else you read into the update is just reading into the update based on information we've had before about the Smash Bros series. It's pretty clear from the language that there are exactly 5 challenges of differing difficulty (nevermind that it appears like they even correspond to the difficulty colors), and you can take these challenges with your favorite character. In other words, pick a character, pick one of the five challenges. I can no longer even see how you can read more stages and more stages per character into it.

Sir you are right.

Please people read it more carefully. before there were 25 maps , now there are 5 maps with different difficulties!, but this time any player can play on any map-

Imagine if Brawl gets the toll of 40 charaters................. 200 break the target maps? COME ON!

 

[Jammer]

Thank you very much, Kittah4, for putting it so well.

I think the problem here is people can't accept that the number of Break the Target stages could be less than in 64 and Melee. A thing called "cognitive dissonance" is happening, which causes you to read what you want to read instead of the actual meaning (in this case, the meaning of the update).

I can't help you if you're in denial.

I'm outta this thread.

 

[Jihnsius]

They should just call BTT 'Riddle' now.
...

They seemed to have ruined stadium mode completely now.

 

[Nybb]

Guys, it's five stages. An easy stage, a hard stage, et. Five, period. It's obvious by the wording

Kittah4 explained it really well, and another guy a few pages back (sorry, can't remember your name) even translated the German page which said definitively only five stages.

There is no debate.

 

[Mido02]

Ok, pretend you knew nothing about target test for a second:

This time, there are five different maps of varying difficulty—challenges you can take on with your favorite character.

In this game, there are five maps, and they vary in difficulty. In other words, forget about how BTT was before. One of the five maps is harder than the other five maps and one is easier and so on. Still going with this, we see that there are five challenges and they each can be done with your favorite character. That's just from the first telling sentence.

Each of the five maps is distinctive.
There is nothing to indicate that each character has five maps. Instead, BTT maps are treated more like Stages that Characters JOIN, instead of the old BTT where characters POSSESSED a BTT. All he's saying here is that each of the five maps is different (while from the screens they don't look TOO different to me yet.)

Some levels have items as well, so you may be able to use them to cut your time even more.
From this all we can tell is that some of the 5 maps will have items, and others won't. Let us hope they will be standardized and not random items.

Anything else you read into the update is just reading into the update based on information we've had before about the Smash Bros series. It's pretty clear from the language that there are exactly 5 challenges of differing difficulty (nevermind that it appears like they even correspond to the difficulty colors), and you can take these challenges with your favorite character. In other words, pick a character, pick one of the five challenges. I can no longer even see how you can read more stages and more stages per character into it.

HA i laugh at you. you actually think there will only be 5 BTT maps in total?
k people it is very easy and clear to understand. lets say there are im hoping around 40 characters which means 40 different BTT maps. THATS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the 5 diff maps just means different difficulty but the original 40 maps stay in tact just the difficulty for each map is increased.

a reason why i strongly do not agree with you is because each character is diff and would be an unfair advantage for some and a disadvantage for others. this reason alone buts your theory to shame.

so in conclusion there will be around 40 BTT maps with 5 difficulties for each map

 

[SSJ4Kazuki]

HA i laugh at you. you actually think there will only be 5 BTT maps in total?
k people it is very easy and clear to understand. lets say there are im hoping around 40 characters which means 40 different BTT maps. THATS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the 5 diff maps just means different difficulty but the original 40 maps stay in tact just the difficulty for each map is increased.

a reason why i strongly do not agree with you is because each character is diff and would be an unfair advantage for some and a disadvantage for others. this reason alone buts your theory to shame.

so in conclusion there will be around 40 BTT maps with 5 difficulties for each map

This is more plausible, but you can't really do THAT much by changing target positions.
It would get boring fast. It's five, people, get over it.

 

[Kittah4]

a reason why i strongly do not agree with you is because each character is diff and would be an unfair advantage for some and a disadvantage for others. this reason alone buts your theory to shame.

so in conclusion there will be around 40 BTT maps with 5 difficulties for each map

Please just read the first sentence I analyzed:

This time, there are five different maps of varying difficulty—challenges you can take on with your favorite character.

The additional part to the sentence clarifies it. You take on the 5 challenges with characters. Not to be offensive, but you are proving my point about letting your previous information of SSB cloud your judgement. The expression "it would be an unfair advantage for some" doesn't even need to be taken into account. I'm sure the five maps were tested to make sure every character could reach all of the 50 targets somehow (probably easier on the testers, too).

For another incedental reason why I think they're won't be character specific maps, take a look at the Easy/Cyan map that DK is on. To his left there is a stone wall with gaps in it, and a target beyond that. There is no reason whatsoever for DK to have this, as he has no attacks that "reach" through gaps. Fox however does. There is also a platform that allows other characters to stand there and jump up to reach the target.

In any case, I believe we'll still be comparing target times by character and not the map itself. For instance, go to multi man melee in melee, theres a number of modes. Think of those as the difficulty setting, then go into it, and you have your character select. Thats where the records go. It's still 200 records, and will make for much fun.

 

[h1roshi]

its not just 5 levels you fvcking dummy, it has 5 different difficulties. so each character can go trhough 5 different versions of target test. doo doo head..oh and, REPLAYS FTW!!!! GREAT GREAT UPDATE!!!...peace

edit: that sentence means nothing, it could still just mean that each character has 5 different challenges, not that it has to be only 5 levels...

-hiroshi

 

[Kittah4]

I don't know why you insult me, but believe what you must. That sentence I analyzed is the most telling sentence of all. I don't think I need to say anything else on the matter.

 

[h1roshi]

I don't know why you insult me?.

man, cuz i'm gangsta *****, man up. nonetheless your sentence means nothing. you know what it says. it says there are 5 different difficulties that all the characters can enjoy. thats it....peace

-hiroshi

 

[Endless Nightmares]

I think the problem here is people can't accept that the number of Break the Target stages could be less than in 64 and Melee. A thing called "cognitive dissonance" is happening, which causes you to read what you want to read instead of the actual meaning (in this case, the meaning of the update).

I can't help you if you're in denial.

Q'd for ****ing T.

 

[h1roshi]

either way with all of the characters, and all of the difficulties, AND THE ITEMS, there is going to be so much replayability...peace

-hiroshi

 

[Mido02]

Please just read the first sentence I analyzed:

yes i have read this sentence over and over again. and i have read your paragraphs as well, kinda reason why i quoted you in the 1st place.

This time, there are five different maps of varying difficulty—challenges you can take on with your favorite character.
five differemt maps of varying difficulty. that just proves what i've been saying. remember to some BTT could be very tuff as it is normally, heck i had trouble with beating Jigglypuff's BTT and im proud to say it so that is why they put this option 3rd time around.

challenges you can take on with your favorite character. this is just telling us something we all already know and that is you can choose any character you want to play this mode and is not only limited to Mario. remember Nintendo is very fond of reaching out to newcomers who never played smash in their life so to them this is all new news.

The additional part to the sentence clarifies it. You take on the 5 challenges with characters. Not to be offensive, but you are proving my point about letting your previous information of SSB cloud your judgement. The expression "it would be an unfair advantage for some" doesn't even need to be taken into account. I'm sure the five maps were tested to make sure every character could reach all of the 50 targets somehow (probably easier on the testers, too).

I knoe it would be possible for every character to get the targets but way easier for some. making it unfair. Most specifically the fast characters or projectile users. there is no point in seeing who would win agaisnt Fox and Bowser in BTT because we all knoe Fox will win, heck maybe even Kirby would win agaisnt Bowser. however there is more challenge and significance to compete to see who has the fastest time with Bowser.

For another incedental reason why I think they're won't be character specific maps, take a look at the Easy/Cyan map that DK is on. To his left there is a stone wall with gaps in it, and a target beyond that. There is no reason whatsoever for DK to have this, as he has no attacks that "reach" through gaps. Fox however does. There is also a platform that allows other characters to stand there and jump up to reach the target.

did they not confirm that there would be items on the map as well so maybe they want DK to use an item to get the target?

In any case, I believe we'll still be comparing target times by character and not the map itself. For instance, go to multi man melee in melee, theres a number of modes. Think of those as the difficulty setting, then go into it, and you have your character select. Thats where the records go. It's still 200 records, and will make for much fun.

hmmmm if this is the case then i have no more beef with this topic and i'll gladly accept the only 5 maps despise the horror of making each character less special with their own cool BTT stage.

 

[Mido02]

srry for the double post but im srry for my noobish use of the quoting!!!!!! i hope you can tell which one is from your quote and which one i wrote!!! srry again. i am a noob

 

[Jammer]

When quoting, all you have to do is delete the parts you don't want. Here, I'll quote your last post, but leave every other word out:

srry the post im for noobish of quoting!!!!!! hope can which is your and one wrote!!! again. am noob

I just clicked the "quote" button, and then edited your quote right there. That means I can also make up quotes:

I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay. I sleep all night and I work all day!

Fun and easy!

 

[slimjim]

Think about this; By stage, he could simply mean the background, and each character would have their own set of platforms and targets. So each character would have their own TT, but could play it on any of the 5 levels.