Tap jump for Pros?

[SnowCold]

Hey, I've been wondering for awhile, how many top players use tap jump? I personally use tap jump but I've heard that a lot of players play with tap jump off. Yet I see some high level players never make name tags which means they are using tap jump. Does anybody know which top players use tap jump and which don't?

PS
Top players include: M2K, Esam, Vinnie, Ally, ADHD, Nairo, Anti, DEHF

Also, Japanese and European players: Otori, Kakera, Brood, Nietono, Mikeneko, Masha, Abadango, 9B, Leon, Mr.r, Quiksilver, Gluttony, Orion, cyve

And Also Higher level players: Leap of faith Crew (Keitaro, False, Nakat, JBandrew), Mikehaze, Salem, Bloodcross, Will, Trela, Atomsk, NickRiddle, RichBrown, Zinoto, Chibo, Vex kasrani, and probably some others that I'm forgetting.

 

[Life]

You really didn't need to namesearch bait that many people :/

I certainly don't count as "pro" but I will say that tap jump makes usmash and upB OOS much easier if you leave it on. On the flip side, it's possible to accidentally jump when you don't want to (especially before doing an upB). It's really kinda minor.

 

[infiniteV115]

I'm totally a pro, right?
I use tap jump off, use X to jump and I have Y set to special. usmash and upB OoS are still super easy, no more accidental jumps when trying to upB/utilt.

 

[SnowCold]

You really didn't need to namesearch bait that many people :/

I certainly don't count as "pro" but I will say that tap jump makes usmash and upB OOS much easier if you leave it on. On the flip side, it's possible to accidentally jump when you don't want to (especially before doing an upB). It's really kinda minor.

They don't have to respond directly, I was wondering if someone out there knew which top players used tap jump

 

[Life]

Doesn't matter. People tend to search their own names on this forum, so if you say their name, their attention turns on you, like Sauron or something.

Of course, that's if they namesearch.

 

[Vermanubis]

I can't say that I'd be considered "pro," but I have tap jump on and I've seen a good deal of success. Then again, Ganon doesn't have a UTilt that requires repeated precise inputs, so I guess he's a character that doesn't suffer from it as much. Not to mention, you can't lift your shield to block pokes like Nado very easily without jumping.

 

[NAKAT]

Tap jump is off for my crew and I.

 

[Cassius.]

I'm not a pro at all, but I am an advocate for the default settings in the game. You can do nearly everything that's important in this game with tap jump on (including UTilting). I'm sure everyone knows this though.

As a Bowser player people would probably tell me it's essential to have tap jump on, but it's not necessary at all. Vex played with tap jump off, and he changed his button layout so that one of the shoulder buttons was mapped to jump (I think it was R).

It's all up to preference. Using a tag doesn't automatically mean that they're not using tap jump..some people just want their tags in the match.

 

[-LzR-]

Unless you play Yoshi I don't see much reason to turn off tap jump.

 

[joY]

I've never really jumped with the joystick on accident, so I feel no need to turn tap jump off.

If anything, keeping tap jump on will make you more aware of your inputs.

 

[Mr Toast]

A lot of the pros who use tap jump seem to use it only because they play characters that benefit very much from it.
Having tap jump on or off really depends on the characters you are using. Having it on is extremely useful for quick arials that you'd use for spacing or even killing. I use tap jump for pivot Bairs for spacing and killing as characters such as shiek, dk, ike, etc.. (I just find it that much easier to pivot and roll the stick up followed by a flick of the C-Stick). I also use tap jump as marth for retreating Fairs, which can be extremely important to get off quickly for spacing. Oh and of course OOS Up-B.

So yeah it really just depends on who you're playing as. If you use a character that would benefit from it, then you'd better get used to it.

EDIT: Also, you'll stop accidentally jumping after a short time, so don't worry about that

 

[SnowCold]

Doesn't matter. People tend to search their own names on this forum, so if you say their name, their attention turns on you, like Sauron or something.

Of course, that's if they namesearch.

Oh sorry lol. I really didn't mean to do that, I just put that there because some people might not be certain as to who is a "top" player.

 

[SnowCold]

To the other people commenting, thank you for your concern and help, but this forum was meant to find out which of the players that regularly win big tournaments use tap jump. I personally use tap jump and I like it for many reasons. easier to do rising aerials, I personally think it's MUCH easier to do super ramin cancels with tap jump, and I can up tilt just fine. Though from what I'm seeing, it seems like more people use tap jump than I thought. cool

 

[jbandrew]

yea i dont use tap jump... if i press up i jump... its annoying. makes uptilts and just makes me not worry about jumping by mistake.

 

[Iota]

Unless I'm wrong about how changing controls work in this game, M2K uses tap jump since I never see him using a tag.

Also I think your high level player list is dumb.

 

[infiniteV115]

He tried out tap jump off vs Vinnie at Collision V and M2K still won.

 

[Lukingordex]

Unless you play Yoshi I don't see much reason to turn off tap jump.

Quoted for truth.

 

[Orion*]

I used standard controls when brawl came out

switched and eventually developed x for grabbing, which was more consistent. z for attack so i could craq walk and dacus more consistently, and L for jumping so that I could emulate near perfect horizontal air movement + cstick in my game. Then I dropped all of them and played with standard controls (wanted easier transition from melee). Then like 4 months before the last apex I changed everything back and added the addition of having tap jump off. Post apex, I switched my L and R so L is shield and R is jump.


I think anyone can make success with a fairly standard control scheme, I also think not taking advantage of the fact that you can make many things easier/more fluid is weird. I did not want to learn to claw, so I changed my controls lmao.

Either way TJ off for many characters reasonably expands your fluidity in a lot of options.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

TJ-off is a character-specific decision. For ZSS I couldn't imagine playing with it on. If I wanted to seriously play MK I'd turn it back on though.

 

[SnowCold]

I think anyone can make success with a fairly standard control scheme, I also think not taking advantage of the fact that you can make many things easier/more fluid is weird. I did not want to learn to claw, so I changed my controls lmao.

Makes sense, I play with basically standard controls though. I use CCpro however xD. CCpro is underrated. I VASTLY prefer it over gc controller. it's lifespan is triple the time, the button layout is actually a lot more convenient and it has an extra button. plus it's technically wireless. you just have to plug it into the wiimote. but yeah, I mostly use standard layout except my L1 button is set to attack and so is my r2 button. the L1 is for sexy walking and R2 is for dacusing. oh and the r1 button doesn't break after a month and the L2 and R2 aren't huge and clunky, let's you react with shield faster.

 

[Orion*]

TJ-off is a character-specific decision. For ZSS I couldn't imagine playing with it on. If I wanted to seriously play MK I'd turn it back on though.

I have to be honest you don't know what you're talking about, especially on the MK part.

 

[Mr Toast]

TJ-off is a character-specific decision. For ZSS I couldn't imagine playing with it on. If I wanted to seriously play MK I'd turn it back on though.

Precisely.

 

[Ayce God]

um I'm not sure why it matters which pros use tj on ? but I know of some of the ones you mentioned bc theyre some of my fav players to watch.

m2k on
esam on (not entirely sure)
ally off
nairo on
dehf on
mikeneko off
leon on
mr r off
glutonny off
Orion off
mikeHaze on

that's all I know

 

[SnowCold]

um I'm not sure why it matters which pros use tj on ? but I know of some of the ones you mentioned bc theyre some of my fav players to watch.

m2k on
esam on (not entirely sure)
ally off
nairo on
dehf on
mikeneko off
leon on
mr r off
glutonny off
Orion off
mikeHaze on

that's all I know

thanks :D.
This is honestly just out of curiosity. I'd like to know which players do play with TJ on so I can relate to them and see what they do.

Also how does mr.r play with TJ off?? lol i can't do SRCs at all with tap jump off. it's so easy with TJ on though. you just kind of press up and down on the analog stick.

 

[infiniteV115]

What's an SRC?

 

[Iota]

Super Ramin cancel, I think.

 

[hungrybox]

dunno if I count but

i've used tap jump for melee and brawl since the beginning

 

[Nido]

Why bother putting melee there you can't alter the controls so it's always on like it or not

 

[rjgbadger]

Why bother putting melee there you can't alter the controls so it's always on like it or not

because he doesn't use X or Y

hbox is a total JWUG

 

[DE_Desti]

quiksilver has SJ off so far I know xD I, too, have it off, it's just annoying ****, but the biggest fail ever is, that I sometimes forget to put my tag on, so I play with it without knowing it, and i'm playing better x)

 

[hyoipear]

I chose to keep TJ on since i thought it would be a good way to increase the tech skill in my everyday game while angling the shield and uTilting.

 

[CYVE]

I play with default settings, just more comfortable for me

 

[infiniteV115]

Why on earth would TJ affect your ability to SRC? Using TJ for SRCs just seems like it would make them unnecessarily harder.

 

[Mr Toast]

I find it extremely difficult to do any type of PC using TJ. It's must easier to have your analog stick ready in the position it needs to be for whatever type of PC you're doing, including SRCs.

 

[Iota]

Having tap jump on shouldn't make it harder or easier to do platform cancels unless you aren't used to it. I can do SRCs with tap jump on just fine.

 

[Mr Toast]

I meant I'm used to using x to jump for that particular tech, i use tap jump for other things. Just clarifying

 

[Ayce God]

I use to play with tj on and it was pretty easy to pc bc u simply flick the control stick up then down.

but with tj off, imo it's easier to do more things out of the pc. src to me is even easier.

for some reason adding more buttons to the equation makes it easier lol

 

[infiniteV115]

You don't need an up input for platform cancelling...like, ever.
Unless you're trying to platform cancel --> utilt/usmash/upB.

If you're doing a regular platform cancel, all you have to do is hold down and let go at the correct time.

 

[Ayce God]

not true, I pressed up bc that's how I jumped. so yea, flick up then flick down

 

[infiniteV115]

Oh you meant tap jump lol nvm then
Don't know how I missed that