Work In Progress SWF Community Voted Tier List - 3.0 COMPLETE

[MarioMeteor]

Kirby I agree on, Jiggs I hate(especially in lag, horrible), and Marth...idk why everyone hates on all 3 of them.

Jigglypuff in lag...dear God...
+1
-1
+1

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Jigglypuff in lag...dear God...
+1
-1
+1

I only get a lucky win as Pit, but laggy rest is the worst

 

[MarioMeteor]

I only get a lucky win as Pit, but laggy rest is the worst

If you think playing Jigglypuff in lag is bad, try playing AS her. You will literally want to shoot yourself.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

If you think playing Jigglypuff in lag is bad, try playing AS her. You will literally want to shoot yourself.

I can't even think about that...such horror there

 

[Turrin]

+ (Why is Roy going DOWN guys pls)
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+
Marth being TWO whole tiers above Lucina makes no sense. Marth's tipper makes him slightly better. They should realistically be in the same tier for essentially being the same character - I find even one tier difference debatable, but... two?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

+ (Why is Roy going DOWN guys pls)
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Marth being TWO whole tiers above Lucina makes no sense. Marth's tipper makes him slightly better. They should realistically be in the same tier for essentially being the same character - I find even one tier difference debatable, but... two?

Roy and Lucena yes

 

[Paxadin]

I can't even think about that...such horror there

I recently picked up Villager again.
I stopped trying to use him online, the slightest input delay made him impossible to use since he needs constant pressure zoning to be any good.
I can't imagine Jigglypuff with how precise you need to be with her spacing.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I recently picked up Villager again.
I stopped trying to use him online, the slightest input delay made him impossible to use since he needs constant pressure zoning to be any good.
I can't imagine Jigglypuff with how precise you need to be with her spacing.

Reminds of Hungrybox's best Smash 4 rest ever. That itself could make her mid tier.

 

[Avokha]

+1
-1
+1

 

[TMNTSSB4]

+1

A BROTHER HAS VOTED

 

[L1N3R1D3R]

+1 Not gonna stop until he stays tier 5. WAY underrated.
+1 Too many combo options and kill moves to be this low.
+1 For sure not worse than Marth. (Both should be tier 4 IMO.) Changing my vote:
-1 Whoa now, you're too high. Definitely not better than Lucina, Doc, Link, or Game & Watch.

 

[MarioMeteor]

I recently picked up Villager again.
I stopped trying to use him online, the slightest input delay made him impossible to use since he needs constant pressure zoning to be any good.
I can't imagine Jigglypuff with how precise you need to be with her spacing.

It's everything you hate about lag multiplied by 5. And the dropped inputs, Jesus Christ, the dropped inputs.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

It's everything you hate about lag multiplied by 5. And the dropped inputs, Jesus Christ, the dropped inputs.

Hope I don't have to deal with this.

 

[iceman9746]

+1 mr game and watch (he is ridiculousy low)
+1 link
-1 jiggly puff

 

[Zerp]

I'm just going to point out that lag and a characters ability in lag has no bearing on a tier list whatsoever, since the vast majority of competitive tournaments take place in a lagless local environment. Not that I thought any of you thought that but just in case.

Spoiler: Reference

Sorry for using this for practically every one of my votes, I just have a really hard time sorting things out without a visual to rely on.

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I am happy that finally got into tier 2 and won't be stuck in Limbo jumping up and down from 3 to 1 and 1 to 3 every update.

,, and all get a -1. These three are the only real bottom tier characters if you were to ask me.

 

[Wintermelon43]

I once tried to use Pikachu online with lag. And it was hell too. Quick attack would always make him go in random directions, rather than where I told him to go, and if it did go in the right direction, the second hit woudn't register.

 

[Eight_SixtyFour]

-1
+1

 

[Bowserboy3]

lol at all the Marth down votes because he's higher than Roy, after everyone was downvoting him last time.

For the record, I think Marth is fine where he is, certainly has the tools to beat all below him. Roy however, is too low. Roy deserves to be up in tier 4, above Marth, nuff said.

Lucina also deserves to be closer to Marth. Not too much difference between them.

 

[Bowserboy3]

+ (Why is Roy going DOWN guys pls)
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Marth being TWO whole tiers above Lucina makes no sense. Marth's tipper makes him slightly better. They should realistically be in the same tier for essentially being the same character - I find even one tier difference debatable, but... two?

Roy is going down because last time people thought he was too high up, so instead of saying "I think this character is better/as good as Roy", loads of people downvoted him. In the same vein, lots of people last time also voted up Marth because in reality, he is actually a solid character (not on Roy's level mind, but I think he's got differences enough to be considered good in his own right). This is why I look what others have voted before posting. Some people may have already given my point across, so I can use my vote on another character.

I agree with your Roy and Lucina votes heavily. Why the Marth downvote though? Not saying your opinion is wrong, just curious. Personally, I think Roy>Marth>Lucina, with Roy and Marth actually being in the same tier, but with a few gaps between them.

 

[DarkK]

Roy is going down because last time people thought he was too high up, so instead of saying "I think this character is better/as good as Roy", loads of people downvoted him. In the same vein, lots of people last time also voted up Marth because in reality, he is actually a solid character (not on Roy's level mind, but I think he's got differences enough to be considered good in his own right). This is why I look what others have voted before posting. Some people may have already given my point across, so I can use my vote on another character.

I agree with your Roy and Lucina votes heavily. Why the Marth downvote though? Not saying your opinion is wrong, just curious. Personally, I think Roy>Marth>Lucina, with Roy and Marth actually being in the same tier, but with a few gaps between them.

Marth has 6 downvotes already. At this rate, he'll be back in tier 6. I agree with people downvoting him because he and Lucina should be on the same tier IMO, and I think tier 5 is the perfect spot for both of them.

 

[Vivillon32238]

+1 She does not deserve to be lower than Dedede.
+1
+1 Mii Gunner isn't THAT bad guys.

 

[Turrin]

I agree with your Roy and Lucina votes heavily. Why the Marth downvote though? Not saying your opinion is wrong, just curious. Personally, I think Roy>Marth>Lucina, with Roy and Marth actually being in the same tier, but with a few gaps between them.

I'm definitely of the same opinion of Roy>Marth>Lucina too. I personally would put Roy in a higher tier than Marth though. The downvote for Marth wasn't because I don't think he's good - I'm just trying to pull Marth and Lucina closer together. I don't have a very heavy opinion on which tier they should be in - just that they should realistically be in the same tier, whatever it is. If I could put them both in a tier it would be 4 or 5 - not too sure which one.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

+1 She does not deserve to be lower than Dedede.

Pit's girl is a mid tier at best, Palutena being low tier is just disgraceful.

 

[Furret24]

+1 (He's not THAT bad)
-1
-1

 

[Deleted member]

This thread would be way better if characters could only go up or down 1 tier per voting round considering thats what you're voting for.

-1
-1
+1

 

[MarioMeteor]

Can't wait till the custom tier list. Ganondorf and Mario will be top tier.

Pit's girl is a mid tier at best, Palutena being low tier is just disgraceful.

Pit is 12, Palutena is several hundred years old. She takes the form of a 22 year-old woman. Calling her "Pit's girl" is rather disturbing.

 

[Mazdamaxsti]

-1 : Said it before and I'll say it again. He struggles too much to be this high. Combos don't make a character good (example, samus).
-1 : good but not THIS good, still don't know too much about him.
+1 : Not good, but not this low. In good hands, Ganon is a monster. (source: played best Ganon in Ontario in pools at EXP, almost took first game but got shrekt 2nd game)

Can't wait till the custom tier list. Ganondorf and Mario will be top tier.

Pit is 12, Palutena is several hundred years old. She takes the form of a 22 year-old woman. Calling her "Pit's girl" is rather disturbing.

Ganon doesn't become top tier with customs, he just becomes better.

Mario on the other hand...

 

[MarioMeteor]

Ganon doesn't become top tier with customs, he just becomes better.

Mario on the other hand...

I know, I was exaggerating. He probably goes to around mid tier. Mario, Dr. Mario, Rosalina, Ike, Ganondorf, R.O.B., a whole lot of people become even better with customs.

 

[Fuerzo]

+
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- jesus christ this character is garbage how are you people so blind

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Can't wait till the custom tier list. Ganondorf and Mario will be top tier.

Pit is 12, Palutena is several hundred years old. She takes the form of a 22 year-old woman. Calling her "Pit's girl" is rather disturbing.

Well Pit is 13(12 is close enough), and Palutena can be his girl, just not in a dating kinda way. Like how women in high school call their female friends girl all the time, but with Pit instead.

 

[Zionaze]

Well Pit is 13(12 is close enough), and Palutena can be his girl, just not in a dating kinda way. Like how women in high school call their female friends girl all the time, but with Pit instead.

All kinds of no in this post.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

All kinds of yes in this extremly super sexy post.

Fixed.

Seriously though, it's no that hard to understand. They're best friends and have a very healthy relationship. If we were talking about the Japanese version of Pit, then that's a whole different story.

 

[FalKoopa]

PLEASE stay on-topic.

 

[CleanOgre]

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[HerpFish]

+Out of the current bottom 6, I don't think that Mii Gunner is the worst. I do think that other characters could go down, but at this point, they are all much closer to even down there.
+Yes, not having tipper hurts, but not THAT much. I could have voted on Marth or Roy, but other people already have that covered.
-He is a very solid character, just not tier 2 in my eyes. In the top of tier 3 seems like a better fit.

 

[Douglas Jay Ganon]

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+

 

[L1N3R1D3R]

I know, I was exaggerating. He probably goes to around mid tier. Mario, Dr. Mario, Rosalina, Ike, Ganondorf, R.O.B., a whole lot of people become even better with customs.

How did you miss Villager?

 

[MarioMeteor]

How did you miss Villager?

I don't pay attention to Villager, but I do remember him having some disgusting custom moves. If I could only film my reaction the first time I nearly got KOd by ****ing exploding balloons.

 

[Routa]

- (please stop blindly following Zero's opinion.. thank you) (tbh I think he might be in wehere he belongs, so ignore this part of my votes)
- (he is good, but as a single main? no so much. I personally think he is outside top 10 (I said it) when we ignore his results and only base his placing on his frame data, theory and MU spreads)
+ (has top lvl ground game (if not the best). only thing that is holding him down is bad stages)
- (simply cannot see him being in top 5. Only reason why he is placed so high is that Esam is carrying him. In my eyes he should not be in 1 tier and tier 3 looks a far better place for him).

 

[ShadowGuy1]

- (please stop blindly following Zero's opinion.. thank you)
- (he is good, but as a single main? no so much. I personally think he is outside top 10 (I said it) when we ignore his results and only base his placing on his frame data, theory and MU spreads)
+ (has top lvl ground game (if not the best). only thing that is holding him down is bad stages)

Its not Zeros opinion, its because marths above him.