Survivor: Gabon - featuring Melee champion Ken

[XxBlackxX]

i would like to see Bob get voted out next actually. not only is he a threat at challenges (or at least more than randy and corinne), but he is also smart AND he has the fake idol. Randy and Corinne might be annoying but i don't see them as much of a threat as Bob.

 

[Steeler]

well yeah, if it were good flint then there would not be much competition lol

i remember ken getting a nice spark off but nothing ignited

 

[Kanzaki]

I agree bout Bob and the fire making.. wasn't he a boy scout or something..?


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[greenflame88]

Maybe Matty lost because he was hitting his hand instead of the flint! XD

Bob is a threat, but of course Corinne, Bob, and Randy are threats in there own way. I think Sugar is a small threat too. She may not be that strong, but when it comes to everything individual she does good. The log rolling challenge, she beat out Bob and was in the final three. Then she got second in the immunity challenge lost episode!

XD

 

[Kirbynator]

funny how none of them practiced building fires at home with a flint before the show when there is always a challenge for that...

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Jeff also commented that many seasons of Survivor involve making fire as part of a challenge.

 

[Sir Bedevere]

It'd be pretty sad/lame if the fire challenge really was rigged. It just seems so unlikely that Bob would not get any fire. He should have been mad hax at that challenge.

I saw that spark too, Steeler.

Wait, why didn't Susie give her immunity to Crystal? Did they not know that the Onions were aiming for her?

As a side note, choknater now has 9, 999 posts.

Rofl.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Well, Jeff did say that they had to draw for positions, so, it was theoretically random.

 

[XxBlackxX]

It'd be pretty sad/lame if the fire challenge really was rigged. It just seems so unlikely that Bob would not get any fire. He should have been mad hax at that challenge.

I saw that spark too, Steeler.

Wait, why didn't Susie give her immunity to Crystal? Did they not know that the Onions were aiming for her?

As a side note, choknater now has 9, 999 posts.

Rofl.

because if she gave it to crystal, they would most likely vote susie and no one wants to sacrifice themselves.

 

[greenflame88]

Yeah, if Susie gave up her immunity, that could have thrown off things. (I'm not a n00b anymore! I'm a smash child!)

 

[Kirbynator]

the individual immunity necklace, unlike the hidden immunity idol, must be given before people write down their votes.

Therefore you cant vote for them. So they would vote off someone else.

 

[Ryanarius]

Charlie said in an interview the fire challenge actually took an hour and a half because the flint and blade they were given were very bad. Supposedly Sugar only had fire for like a second in the middle somewhere but editing made it look close.

 

[greenflame88]

Oh... well if that's true... Susie just dominated... or just got a lucky knife and flint lol

 

[Sir Bedevere]

because if she gave it to crystal, they would most likely vote susie and no one wants to sacrifice themselves.

It wouldn't necessarily be a sacrifice. :/ Switching up the idol might have thrown off the Onion as to who they should vote for. If one of them ended up voting for Ken or something, there would have been a lot less votes needed to get Charlie out.

But I suppose you're right. It probably only would have worked if the person giving away the immunity to expose themselves had ties with one of the people on the Onion, like Matty.

Charlie said in an interview the fire challenge actually took an hour and a half because the flint and blade they were given were very bad. Supposedly Sugar only had fire for like a second in the middle somewhere but editing made it look close.

>:o

Dammed edits.

 

[sMexy-Blu]

Go Go Ken Go Go Ken, Survivor is just no contest with Ken he will just Ken combo everyone with his amazing Mindgames XP.

 

[Cyntalan Maelstrom]

Two things.

The above poster made the point about screwing up a plan, though it's risky, it's possible to screw one over. You give up immunity to someone else that was going to be voted on, you indeed open yourself up, but you also ruin their initially talked out plan. Now you're concern is that they'll all mentally unify and vote you out. This isn't that hard to do because everyone watches you do it, thus everyone, if smart, would just switch their vote to you.... but sometimes they might not want to do that, and it screws up a plan.

Second, individual immunity can be transferred only before voting, but the idol is asked for AFTER they have been cast.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

I really don't see a way out for Randy or Corinne at this point. They both dug their own graves by trying to play the roles of villains. They both made it clear at the beginning of the season that they do not care about others' feelings. Backstabbing is certainly part of the game, but maintaining good relations is just as important. I mean, look at Marcus. Sure, he got a big arrogant at the end, but his high spirits and honest methodology had Corinne and Charlie in the bag to the point where Ken had to yell NO JOHNS at them during golf.

 

[Ukemi]

Although Ken has done many amazing combos, he's going to need another player to create a distraction (like Mario Bob with his FLUDD that looks powerful but doesn't do any damage) to take a Bob-omb from Peach Sugar later in the game. He's not really seen as "useless character with horrible recovery and no projectiles" He's now one of the "men" of the game, and that gives him a bigger hitbox. He's generated quite a bit of hate. In fact, he's probably 2nd hated right now. He sent two (maybe 3) people home that didn't really "deserve" to go.

Lol at my horrible attempt to use punnish stuff.

 

[OmegaXXII]

He's generated quite a bit of hate. In fact, he's probably 2nd hated right now. He sent two (maybe 3) people home that didn't really "deserve" to go.

Yup, I mean c'mon he's eliminated Ace and Marcus due to his mindgames on Sugar, and partially Charlie who I guess had a bit of a rivalry, Ken chances are not looking so well form this point forward, but hye at least he has and of the best physical players of the game on his side. (Matty)

 

[Anth0ny]

That ad is hilarious. I see it coming now.

"If anyone has their immunity idol, play it now"
Randy: Ha! Here it is!
"Are you an idiot? That is fake."

Ken lols. And we're all happy =)

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

That ad is hilarious. I see it coming now.

"If anyone has their immunity idol, play it now"
Randy: Ha! Here it is!
"Are you an idiot? That is fake."

Ken lols. And we're all happy =)

I seriously hope so. It would be a most poetic end to Randy.

 

[SonicBoom2]

Yup, I mean c'mon he's eliminated Ace and Marcus due to his mindgames on Sugar, and partially Charlie who I guess had a bit of a rivalry, Ken chances are not looking so well form this point forward, but hye at least he has and of the best physical players of the game on his side. (Matty)

Rivalry with Charlie? Nah, he just wanted to get back at him for the note. They both apparently respect each other, (they are both smart and Charlie admitted that) and then again, they only spent 3 hours with each other.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Rivalry with Charlie? Nah, he just wanted to get back at him for the note. They both apparently respect each other, (they are both smart and Charlie admitted that) and then again, they only spent 3 hours with each other.

Hmm... I guess, but regardless what terms Ken had with Charlie, Ken still voted off Charlie just for the same reason Charlie did when Marcus was on the line.

and yea, Randy is surely going downhill at this point, the only thing that can save him is Bob's Hoax Idol, other than that, he's already screwed up in the game and within himself.

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

It just seems stupid to let your emotions get the best of you like that. Randy and Corinne drew way too much attention to themselves last episode. They were probably fairly confident that Crystal was going home last time. Now, Charlie is gone, and they have lost their needed numbers. Now, Randy's allies probably feel a bit foolish for riding along with Randy's personal vendetta instead of focusing on a more strategic hit. Nuking Ken or blindsiding Sugar would have made much more sense (aside from the fact that they don't know she has the idol right now).

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

According to Jeff Probst, the final 2 supposed to be "Good vs Evil", and it's going to be "obvious".. any speculations..? Originally I thought it was going to be Matty(Good) vs. Ace(Evil), but with Ace gone now.. I started to lean towards Bob(Good) vs. Randy(Evil).. But who knows :]

Source? Please, that would be epic. Did he really say it would be a final 2?

New promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca2ysY1s6Kw

Oh snap again! Randy + Bob's Fake Idol = Randy getting owned, hopefully...

I'm worried in a part of 0:13, it looks like Randy wins the immunity challenge. Take a look at the spikes around his neck, that may be the individual immunity won at the challenge. Though, this does contradict everything that he claims in reguards to the fake idol. Maybe his idea for the fake idol were before the challenge, and during the challenge, he won, but someone else uses the fake idol.

Just look closely at Susie, Sorrine, and Matty when they bring out their torches for tribal council (at 0:13). They don't have the immunity necklace! Now pay very close attention to Randy's picture. From an angle, it looks like he has the immunity necklace from an immunity challenge, similar to the one Susie won. If he wins the challenge, we have an epic episode (which was already stated by Jeff).

Woah... We're still forgetting the individual Immunity challenge! That could change things too! What if Randy wins individual and wants to give the fake idol to Corinne or something...

The next episode, the only ones I see in danger are Randy and Kenny. Sugar has her own idol and she and Matty are swing votes, Corinne, Bob, and Randy would be stupid to even TRY to vote them out. Crystal is behind Kenny, if anything comes towards Crystal, Kenny will take the hit first.

SO MANY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND VARIABLES TO CONSIDER!

This too.

 

[Kanzaki]

The fake idol might actually save Randy, cause no one knows it's fake, other than Bob. For all they know, this could be a "new third" idol(second one being thrown out to the sea). Perhaps Randy could be safe then..?

I could actually see Bob telling people he found the immunity idol, the Fang 4 would think that it's a new hidden immunity idol, Bob pretends to ally with someone(using Ken as an example), and tell the Onions that Ken has a fake idol, and get them to vote him out.


Good vs Evil source:

http://www.realitytvmagazine.com/blog/2008/08/27/survivor-gabon-cast-billed-as-good-versus-evil/

 

[OmegaXXII]

Nuking Ken or blindsiding Sugar would have made much more sense (aside from the fact that they don't know she has the idol right now).

Indeed that strategy would have been much more favorable to them, but due to Corrine wanting to keep Randy, their little plan somewhat backfired and now Charlie is eliminated.

Also, you mean to tell me Corrine and Randy, don't know that Sugar is holding the idol after them just going through the same team?

Obviously Bob doesn't know, otherwise why would he have gone through all that trouble of finding it only to create is Uber Hoax Idol.

 

[Kanzaki]

I don't think Randy's going to win immunity next episode:

Them walking to tribal council
http://resources.survivorphoenix.com/graphics/albums/S17E10/S17E10_Walk_to_TC.jpg

The necklace
http://www.survivorfever.com/vc_s17/vc_s17_ep7_10_23/vc_s17_ep7_10_23_0002.jpg


Looks nothing like what Randy has on.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Good vs Evil source:

http://www.realitytvmagazine.com/blog/2008/08/27/survivor-gabon-cast-billed-as-good-versus-evil/

WoW, what Epicness would that be, Ken going up against Bob at the end would be the best thing to happen.

Also the fake Hoax Idol wouldn't work due to the fact that Ken & Crystal know of the existence of the real one that Sugar holds.

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

Good vs Evil source:

http://www.realitytvmagazine.com/blog/2008/08/27/survivor-gabon-cast-billed-as-good-versus-evil/

I'm aware of the good vs evil concept, Jeff said it on his episode 8 preview, 0:58-end (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w22HaZjCZRc). You stated that there was a final 2, that's what I'm interested in finding out where you heard that, that there would be a final 2.

 

[Timbers]

Good would be Bob or Matty.

Evil would be Crystal, Susie, Ken, or Randy lol.

So it's not like it really thins the numbers out that Ken will be up there. A lot of "Evil" players could fit that bill. Sugar and Corinne are really the only two who aren't on a definite side of good or evil.

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

Them walking to tribal council
http://resources.survivorphoenix.com/graphics/albums/S17E10/S17E10_Walk_to_TC.jpg

The necklace
http://www.survivorfever.com/vc_s17/vc_s17_ep7_10_23/vc_s17_ep7_10_23_0002.jpg

The first link is incorrect, it actually looks like:

If you pay close attention to Randy's clothes, he has a Hawaiian shirt, nothing with little spikes coming out...

 

[thesage]

The immunity necklace does not have anything blue on it. All we can get from this picture is that Susie, Matty, Corinne, Randy, Crystal, and Bob do not win immunity. Leaving Sugar and Ken.

 

[Kirbynator]

is the fake idol a necklace?

i dont remember its size

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

is the fake idol a necklace?

i dont remember its size

The fake idol is a necklace, the face is roughly the size of Bob's bowtie buff. (it's not that wide in size)

 

[OmegaXXII]

is the fake idol a necklace?

i dont remember its size

Yes it is, and hopefully it will save his butt because I really want Bob in the final 3.

 

[greenflame88]

I wouldn't completely rule out Crystal or Bob for immunity... I think Ken wins it because in the preview, he was leading the challenge... unless that was for reward...
Immunity Possibilities: Sugar, Ken, Bob, Crystal
Def. Not: Corinne, Randy, Susie, Matty
Im gonna go rewatch the video...

XD

 

[M.K]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmTiP8n3Kkg

Using this video's slow motion, It's obvious that Randy has on Bob's fake necklace.
Whether or not this works, I don't know.
Nobody else knows that an extra immunity idol is or isn't in play.

 

[greenflame88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLkY4KhQ4wQ&feature=related

Im pretty sure the reward challenge is an auction...it shows the mallet Jeff uses when something is sold... But I get the feeling that there are family members involved too...It also shows bits of the immunity challenge...

Plus maybe Randy is wearing the same Necklace Corinne was wearing at the Reward challenge seen here... They both have those shell things...

XD

 

[OmegaXXII]

Well "whichever" necklace Randy is wearing, I doubt he will last longer in the challenge because remember, he has lost it and has turned psycho.

Crystal+Matty+Ken FTW!!!