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RyN

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I'm not a Captain Falcon player but I just want the Captain Falcon board to know that I support all of your efforts to prove that Captain Falcon is not the worst character in Brawl. Good luck in all of your efforts and may your endeavors lead to success.
 

Mr.Fakeman

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NO OFFENSE! But! I am a Captain Falcon user, you could say he is the worst character in the game. However, I would just like to state that he is just a 'hard to use' character. In other words you need two times more practice with him that any character. It is probably why people regard him as the worse, not that he is a bad character. I mean a majority of people nowadays use a character with at least one long range move (which Captain Falcon does not have), I have had alot of people come up to me and say that he is the worst because of this specific reason. But I say to them "It Takes A Real Man" to use Captain Falcon.
 

RyN

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NO OFFENSE! But! I am a Captain Falcon user, you could say he is the worst character in the game. However, I would just like to state that he is just a 'hard to use' character. In other words you need two times more practice with him that any character. It is probably why people regard him as the worse, not that he is a bad character. I mean a majority of people nowadays use a character with at least one long range move (which Captain Falcon does not have), I have had alot of people come up to me and say that he is the worst because of this specific reason. But I say to them "It Takes A Real Man" to use Captain Falcon.
I'm not one to particularly say that Captain Falcon is hard to use in Brawl but he is definitely different in comparison to Captain Falcon's of Melee and Bros. and because of this he has a larger learning curve. I was never much of a Captain Falcon player anyway other than to just test him out, he's not my style of play.

Alot of people complain about the knee for some reason when it's really not that hard to sweetspot in Brawl and I've only played Captain Falcon a handful of times in Brawl.
 

HiddenBowser

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NO, he is not just "hard to use", he is actually bad and the tools he has aren't very good. So everyone needs to stop talking about how C. Falcon has a high learning curve because you can go to any ****ty toon's discussion board and see some discussion about how that character doesn't actually suck, but just has a high learning curve. So next time you want to talk about learning curve, shut the **** up, because you're a scrub. I wrote this a little while ago, so I'm just going to repost it here.

Bowyer said:
everyone needs to ****ing stop talking about learning curve. just because a character is bad doesn't mean the character has a steep learning curve. Like seriously, go to any character's boards that sucks and you will see people posting about how their character isn't bad, they just have a steep learning curve. When you start placing well in major tournaments, you can go around saying who has and doesn't have a steep learning curve, but until then, seriously, shut the **** up. Like, sure, it's difficult to place with ****ty characters but that doesn't say anything about how hard it is to ****ing master your character.
 

Shy Guy 86

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Falcon is the most badass, manliest character, and the funnest, so who gives a **** about his placement when he has OVER 9000 better things =P
 

IcantWin

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Falcon Crunch, THE NEXT BEST CEREAL THAT WON'T CUT THE ROOF OF YOUR MOUTH!
 

Ayaz18

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Falcon has no, I repeat NO potential in Brawl whatsoever, there is going to be no AT that can make him move out of bottom tier, that's the way it is people I don't like it and many people also don't like it. But it's what Sakurai gave us, his entire existance is to combo, and with Brawl's horrendous physics it makes Falcon ******** bad (Offense is intended)

but thanks for the support :)
 

8AngeL8

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OMG, RyN making a thread on Smashboards? Next thing you know you'll be hating on items and wanting Battlefield only.
 

Mr.Fakeman

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Ok, now this sort of well... I wouldn't call it an argument. We have posts like this in nearly every character thread, if people stopped putting other characters down because they don't like them. The complaints wouldn't be necessary, although it's surprising to see a good captain falcon player.
 

8AngeL8

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Don't lie. I saw you on Smashboards while you were supposed to be taking your GF out to dinner.
 

RyN

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It was totally legit, she was playing with like five people so I got away with it. I'm a mastermind muahahahaha
 

HiddenBowser

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OMG, you ****ing loser! lol. That's kinda cool that your gf plays smash though... but only kinda because playing smash isn't all that much fun and video games suck in general.
 

Zeallyx

Fox mains get all the girlz
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this topic made me lol
due to the hate the help-discourage contradiction contains
 

Zeallyx

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I'm glad it made you lol tkontk, that is my goal on the CF board, haha
yes the loling was fun and all, but please stop trolling
my post wasn't meant as a compliment :p
but thanks for making me lol anyway
but I'm sorry I have to do this, but:

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THE TROLL

Thanks,

the staff
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stop trolling son!
 

Zeallyx

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CF players need lulz more than anyone. We need MORE topics like this!
no we don't
we need serious, usefull topics
go to bs forums about the usefullness of dog clothes to make your joke topics instead
kthnxbye
 

RyN

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Me? Trolling? Originally I was offering support, if anyone turned it into a troll thread that was certainly you tkontk
 

Zeallyx

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Me? Trolling? Originally I was offering support, if anyone turned it into a troll thread that was certainly you tkontk
no u

and Bowyer, ehm stop acting like yourself XD

and I do have a sense of humor, what you said just wasn't funny..
 

Tenki

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NO, he is not just "hard to use", he is actually bad and the tools he has aren't very good. So everyone needs to stop talking about how C. Falcon has a high learning curve because you can go to any ****ty toon's discussion board and see some discussion about how that character doesn't actually suck, but just has a high learning curve. So next time you want to talk about learning curve, shut the **** up, because you're a scrub. I wrote this a little while ago, so I'm just going to repost it here.
Eheh.

Why Sonic Sucks - aka Learn to Player

I made that in the Sonic boards, and not only did it tell people that Sonic sucked, their attempts to push Sonic's speed into matchup discussions were futile, but I also say that Sonic is a basic character (aka, doesn't have very high of a learning curve, aside from learning how to play Brawl lol).

You'd think it'd infuriate people but I got good feedback overall lmao.

Other than the character-specific stuff, I think it applies to most characters.

Falcon Crunch, THE NEXT BEST CEREAL THAT WON'T CUT THE ROOF OF YOUR MOUTH!
No no.

A part of this good breakfast that really packs a PAAAWNNCH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQt6aVLDhV4

useful topics??? this is for C. Falcon... how useful of a topic can exist?
probably topics to get CF players to... play better? lol.
 

Tenki

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It's not getting better with the character as it is getting better at the game.

Like good Ike players take advantage of people's habits and do stuff like running at, then past you (baiting a shield/spotdodge) > pivot grab.

If the majority of Falcon players are still attacking straightforward and not learning how to limit opponent options, or at least finding answers to common situations, then their community is going to continue to suck, skill-wise.

If there's any development of notice to be made, it won't be in the form of an AT, but in baits and traps - player development.


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HiddenBowser

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It's not getting better with the character as it is getting better at the game.

Like good Ike players take advantage of people's habits and do stuff like running at, then past you (baiting a shield/spotdodge) > pivot grab.

If the majority of Falcon players are still attacking straightforward and not learning how to limit opponent options, or at least finding answers to common situations, then their community is going to continue to suck, skill-wise.

If there's any development of notice to be made, it won't be in the form of an AT, but in baits and traps - player development.
It's only about the skill of the player until you reach top level play. When you get to top level play, playing C. Falcon or another ****ty character plays a major factor and limits your ability to win. I have absolutely no problem beating decent people with C. Falcon, but I play with some of the best in the MW and taking games off them with C. Falcon, when they're playing a good character, doesn't happen very often. So the point is, no matter if you master C. Falcon, other great people with good characters will still beat you most of the time.
 

HiddenBowser

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OMG, you're a ***got.
 

Tenki

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Intelligent posts? In MY thread?

It's more likely than you think.
I blame it on this one. And I used a 1337 translator hahah.
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Fine :dizzy: use the top-level play card =_=;

It should now be well-known that:

Character/matchup < Player/player skill < Top-level character argument.


:( you win.

But for now, as the vast majority of players AREN'T at top-level play, player skill still matters.
 

HiddenBowser

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But for now, as the vast majority of players AREN'T at top-level play, player skill still matters.
It all matters where you live at and who you play with. For instance, I live within 15 minutes of 4 people who consistently place top 8 in MW Circuit events. One of them is Anther, who is the single best in the MW and went even with DSF a month or two ago and would beat him if he played him again. I'm sure there are other good players that share a similar problem to me.
 

RyN

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When it gets down to it, the character who is designed to be better will be better and Captain Falcon was not designed to be one of the better characters. But if one can overcome that deficit and advance far enough in a tournament to prove he is viable, then I applaud their efforts.
 

Wogrim

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When it gets down to it, the character who is designed to be better will be better and Captain Falcon was not designed to be one of the better characters. But if one can overcome that deficit and advance far enough in a tournament to prove he is viable, then I applaud their efforts.
Brawl was designed to have no tiers. :confused:
 
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