Super Smash Bros. for Wii U / 3DS Info Thread - Risen from the dead by the psychic power of DLC

[Chuckya]

Pic of the day : just a closer lookout of the new SmashVille stage. The stage probably changes it's background like it did in Brawl on Saturday evenings.

 

[DPSnumber1]

Never the less. Little Mac belongs to the fighting genre and is not a suitable character for SSB. How would you picture his special moves? The guy just punches the sh*t out of his opponents.

Go to the Little Mac Threat to see some potencial movesets which demostrate that Little mac can be in a Smash Game

Also you can find in the link bellow some valid points posted by Maricalistaro that demostrate that this is indeed a Punch Out Stage

http://smashboards.com/threads/little-mac-w-v-b-a-champion-for-ssb4.324302/page-11

 

[Chuckya]

I enjoyed the link you sent me although I'm still not convinced.
Notice the screen in the middle : that is definetly not a prop from Punch Out!!!
All arguments lead to say that the stage is similar to the Wii Punch Out. Wouldn't you think they would rather make it look like the NES version?
Although it might have been a Punch Out Smash Bros. themed stage, it's highly unlikely that they would have kept the Smash Bros. emblem.

 

[Frostwraith]

There are other stages in Smash that come from previous Nintendo titles that yet have the Smash emblem somewhere.

Brawl's Mario Circuit has several Smash Bros. symbols on the screen with the circuit's map.
The Smash symbol can be found on a can on the Distant Planet stage from Brawl.
Smashville's platforms (both the main one and the moving one) have the Smash symbol on the corners.

Having the Smash emblem neither confirms nor denies that the boxing ring is a Punch-Out!! stage.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

OP, I have near-certain confirmation that the AC stages are all together like Defino Plaza:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ&feature=youtu.be
6:00
Did anyone else notice this? It seems kinda obvious.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

It could be a Kirby stage.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/j7uCHv8pKD4/0.jpg

What is that? A 2D fighter based off of Revenge of The King?

 

[Hb2]

OP, I have near-certain confirmation that the AC stages are all together like Defino Plaza:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ&feature=youtu.be
6:00
Did anyone else notice this? It seems kinda obvious.

That's the Skyloft stage.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

Except it has been confirmed there will be no different characters between versions. The roster will be the same on both versions.

I'm pretty sure that he actually said that there will be "the same number of characters" in each game, though it may have been a poor translation, or you're using a different source.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

The initial connection I made upon seeing this picture was that it was from either Donkey Kong OR Ketzal's Corridors...since it has a sort of aztec/ruins theme.

Upon looking at the Ketzal's Corridors gameplay though (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhyg1kIfWf4) there doesn't seem to be much of a connection.

A mystery.

(By the way, I believe Ketzal's Corridors belongs to Nintendo, is that right?)

Not to be a jerk, and I say this at the risk of being totally wrong (again), but:That isn't Aztec, not even close. Aztec architecture and art are outstandingly geometric and depict "things" more than designs, in the case of art, and normally carved rather than pieced together.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

That's the Skyloft stage.

Sorry, I failed.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

I don't think so because Alph looks far too similar to Olimar. I guess Charlie and Brittany have better chances to get in as a second Pikmin character.
On the other side, I'm not sure if they find a way to put the new Pikmins in so that they won't have a too similar effect to the Pikmin1&2 pikmins. Still I agree with you that there is a possibility they could put a second Pikmin character in.


You might be right. The only thing you should have noticed: for the villager and the wii fit trainer, there are no 3ds pictures either. Does this really mean there are problems to put wii fit trainer and villager into the 3ds version? I'm not sure about this.

You realize that, with a color change, Mario and Luigi are pretty difficult to tell apart? Kirby and Jiggs to a lesser extent.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

Here, I'll try one last time to not fail:
I know few of you ever play Melee with items on, but I have encountered, when you break the boxes, very rarely the enemies from adventure mode come out, especially Goombas and the zombie things from the LoZ area. This kept in mind:
I think that it's possible that the missing Rock and Fairy Pikmin could be a stage feature. Perhaps just hopping/flying around and passively interfering with the fight. It's kind off extreme, but then so are the mechanics of the previous Pikmin stage.
Please forgive me if this is yet another stupid idea .

 

[MopedOfJustice]

Definitely not a stage inspired by Punch Out !!! .

Notice the Smash Bros. emblem printed on the ground. None of the stages inspired by existing franchises have the Smash Bros. emblem in them.
Plus, why are you people all supporting Little Mac's inclusion in the game as a playable character? The point in SSB is creating a fighting game zith characters of the Nintendo universe that DO NOT belong to the fighting genre.

First bold: Notice the rope colors are just like in Lil Mac? The atmosphere, while typical of a boxing ring, is EXACTLY like the atmosphere in LM, just with a different camera angle.
Second bold: Are you kidding? Nintendo's only true (ish) fighting game that comes to mind is LM, but Metroid, Kirby, SMB, LoZ, Star Fox and many others are games centered around fighting, if not technically "fighting games." Belonging in the Genre isn't a qualifier, but it isn't a deterrent either.

EDIT: Not to mention Pokemon

 

[MopedOfJustice]

I enjoyed the link you sent me although I'm still not convinced.
Notice the screen in the middle : that is definetly not a prop from Punch Out!!!
All arguments lead to say that the stage is similar to the Wii Punch Out. Wouldn't you think they would rather make it look like the NES version?
Although it might have been a Punch Out Smash Bros. themed stage, it's highly unlikely that they would have kept the Smash Bros. emblem.

The ribbons/ropes are that way in the retro ones too.

 

[Player -0]

Link's Up-Special pretty much confirmed to be short?

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Not to be a jerk, and I say this at the risk of being totally wrong (again), but:That isn't Aztec, not even close. Aztec architecture and art are outstandingly geometric and depict "things" more than designs, in the case of art, and normally carved rather than pieced together.

I never claimed to be an expert when it came to architecture. I just made a guess (a poor one) and hoped nobody would care enough to bring up the fundamentals of Aztecan architecture in a smash bros forum.

Aztec was my best guess, I'm not really familiar with any other jungle setting architecture.

 

[Opossum]

The ribbons/ropes are that way in the retro ones too.

Dude. You just septuple posted. Careful there, and use the Edit Post button instead.

I enjoyed the link you sent me although I'm still not convinced.
Notice the screen in the middle : that is definetly not a prop from Punch Out!!!
All arguments lead to say that the stage is similar to the Wii Punch Out. Wouldn't you think they would rather make it look like the NES version?
Although it might have been a Punch Out Smash Bros. themed stage, it's highly unlikely that they would have kept the Smash Bros. emblem.

They could if they pass it off as the "Smash Circuit." The Punch-Out!! series had you fight through tons of opponents through different circuits, so it could be the "Smash Circuit," similar to how the Brawl Animal Crossing stage was "Smashville."

And Punch-Out!! isn't in the fighting genre, either. It's a Sports/Puzzle game by definition. Sakurai's statements had more to do with things like characters from Street Fighter, Tekken, or Soul Calibur.

 

[Chuckya]

Well you guys got me pretty convinced. If it is indeed a Punch Out !!! stage, it definitely raises Little Mac's chances to be a newcomer. Although the game where he comes from is not technically a fighting game, the character still represents a fighter in the literal meaning. I'd rather add some unexpected retro character like Muddy Mole from the Game Boy game.

 

[Chuckya]

Well you guys got me pretty convinced. If it is indeed a Punch Out !!! stage, it definitely raises Little Mac's chances to be a newcomer. Although the game where he comes from is not technically a fighting game, the character still represents a fighter in the literal meaning. I'd rather add some unexpected retro character like Muddy Mole from the Game Boy game.

 

[Opossum]

Well you guys got me pretty convinced. If it is indeed a Punch Out !!! stage, it definitely raises Little Mac's chances to be a newcomer. Although the game where he comes from is not technically a fighting game, the character still represents a fighter in the literal meaning. I'd rather add some unexpected retro character like Muddy Mole from the Game Boy game.

Not trying to derail the thread, but technically Little Mac wouldn't even be considered a retro, since his series was revived. Glad to see you like Muddy Mole, though. You should definitely check out his support thread.

 

[*Risen*]

Wasn't it stated by Sakurai that the 3DS version was having trouble with ice climbers lag, thus confirming them? Maybe not a definite because of the errors, but I assume that means they're in.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Well you guys got me pretty convinced. If it is indeed a Punch Out !!! stage, it definitely raises Little Mac's chances to be a newcomer. Although the game where he comes from is not technically a fighting game, the character still represents a fighter in the literal meaning. I'd rather add some unexpected retro character like Muddy Mole from the Game Boy game.

Why does that mean anything? When Sakurai said fighters, he means fighters like Soul Caliber and Tekken. Punch Out!!! Is a celebrated franchise to Nintendo. Link's techincally a fighter, Pokemon are fighters. The game is to celebrate Nintendo's best franchises. Punch Out!!! is. Little Mac has a huge chance of getting in, more than Muddy Mole to be honest.

 

[BerzerkPixel]

I hope L-cancelling at least returns.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I hope L-cancelling at least returns.

How about just automatic cancelling?

Having to L-Cancel was dumb.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I have little doubt it will be removed in favor of flat making landing lag faster across the board.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Yeah, L-Cancelling was nothing more than a tedious thing that you had to do in order to not make the game feel laggy as hell. I can support advanced techniques, but not L-Cancelling, because it's not hard to do, it's just tedious. If anything have it be automatic.

 

[farvin111]

About the KO trails, it's blue if hit by player 2. You can confirm it around 1:28 in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqpWmcyeoV0

 

[DakotaBonez]

Oh hey everybody! Kirby has Samus' body! Samby confirmed.

 

[Fenrir VII]

Oh hey everybody! Kirby has Samus' body! Samby confirmed.

Kirby-Suit Samus squishes into the battle.

 

[RideRide]

I saw one post here about Battlefield without platforms. Is it Final Destination? It kind of looks like it...

(around 4:30 in this video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Alright people! New stage! We got Pilotwings!

 

[Frostwraith]

Updated the OP, adding the newly revealed stage to the list.

Also, it appears that Sakurai has stated that there wouldn't be an Adventure Mode like SSE this time. Can someone link to the source of that information?

EDIT: Never mind. I found a source of the information and added the link to the OP.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Good for you on adding the new stage to confirmed stuff but man I hope you get to jump around planes gliders and maybe even jet pack guys

 

[Fenrir VII]

Updated the OP, adding the newly revealed stage to the list.

Also, it appears that Sakurai has stated that there wouldn't be an Adventure Mode like SSE this time. Can someone link to the source of that information?

EDIT: Never mind. I found a source of the information and added the link to the OP.

Can you also add the following?

Also, can we get the first post updated to include the confirmed tactics so far?

Confirmed:
-Pivot Grab (http://imgflip.com/i/26fab - Mario)
-Aerial clashes (http://imgflip.com/i/26f7i)
-Short-hop

and "probable":
-Dash dance (http://imgflip.com/i/26f8c - Megaman)
-Short dashes (http://imgflip.com/i/26fed - Link)
-Fast-fall (http://imgflip.com/i/2iwkx - Megaman)

 

[mygamecube]

I'm glad I took a look at this board first. At first glance, I thought it was a SimCity stage.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

Pilotwings stage is something I like but... I want to see what this stage actually has to show.

 

[papagenos]

I'm hoping you fight on the plane and it leaves the runway and fly's over a bunch of 2D retro maps from a bunch of different games.

A retro pilotwings/nintendo game maps stage just seems like a really cool idea to me since so many old games had really cool maps it would be fun to see a world full of all those worlds... plus it could rep a bunch of games all at once.

 

[IhaveSonar]

Luigi confirmed by Nintendo Direct.

 

[SmashCentralOfficial]

Luigi was just confirmed! I'd love to get my hands on those screenshots if anyone could help.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

We'll get screenshots or an update soon.