Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Tree Gelbman]

I like Fi.

Get out.

We don't cept your kind round these here parts.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Banjo is overrated what I didn't say anything

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I like Fi.

So do I.

 

[Gargaglione]

Ganon should just fight in pig form

 

[LiteralGrill]

On Ganon, as much as I insult PSASBR, I would love him to have a play style similar to Zeus (without an insane roll that will never be patched)

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Not should Ganon be balanced but de-cloned. (I know nearly every smash fan agrees with that, but it needs to be done so badly)

MK's attack speed is a little much, and some of his attacks can be landed so easily, because of it's direction and speed. Speed and directional changing is what primarilly needs to be done to nerf and balance out MK, along with changing his specials so that not every single one of them can be used as a recovery...

Btw, was there a character who mastered the air in N64? I never played that game. I know Melee has Jigglypuff for an air master, and MK for Brawl.

What needs to be done to balance MK is give his sword regular priority.

 

[Nick Schovitz]

I heard that Olimar's been confirmed. Any other confirmations recently?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

On Ganon, as much as I insult PSASBR, I would love him to have a play style similar to Zeus (without an insane roll that will never be patched)

I don't think I ever downloaded Zeus and Isaac Clarke. What was Zeus like?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Ganon should just fight in pig form

That would make a cool FS at least.

Imagine throwing a burning trident around like a bommerang and summoning demonic bats to attack your opponents.

 

[Gargaglione]

I heard that Olimar's been confirmed. Any other confirmations recently?

Pikmin

 

[LiteralGrill]

I don't think I ever downloaded Zeus and Isaac Clarke. What was Zeus like?

Zeus was a heavy hitter, but can cool mind games with cancels and even a teleport that left a dummy that when hit hurt the opponent (it didn't stay out very long, a second tops.) He had decent mobility, but could charge all of his moves up to a certain point, making the canceling mindgames/do insane damage with armor play truly unique. I seriously loved the style (though never could be that good as him) and would love to see it in Smash with a Sakurai twist.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Pikmin

And a Pikmin 3 stage.

With the ship from Pikmin 3.

 

[Vintage Creep]

I don't think I ever downloaded Zeus and Isaac Clarke. What was Zeus like?

Zeus was OP and boring as ****. Literally every move was the same in a different direction and filled half of the supers bar.
Isaac was OK, not bad nor good.

 

[Johnknight1]

I heard that Olimar's been confirmed. Any other confirmations recently?

Trippy riding Panther (wearing Majora's Mask) with Navi.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Zeus was OP and boring as ****. Literally every move was the same in a different direction and filled half of the supers bar.
Isaac was OK, not bad nor good.

... Did you ever play the game competitively? Without his INSANE roll (which was, INSANE in all capital letters and everything!) Zeus was very beatable. Even in an FFA setting where he was very strong, he wasn't that bad. And Isaac had a loop that burst and took no effort and could hit you half way across the stage. The final tier lists put out by the backroom for the game put him incredibly high on the tier list.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Not should Ganon be balanced but de-cloned. (I know nearly every smash fan agrees with that, but it needs to be done so badly)

MK's attack speed is a little much, and some of his attacks can be landed so easily, because of it's direction and speed. Speed and directional changing is what primarilly needs to be done to nerf and balance out MK, along with changing his specials so that not every single one of them can be used as a recovery...

Balance first, de-cloning second.

Btw, was there a character who mastered the air in N64? I never played that game. I know Melee has Jigglypuff for an air master, and MK for Brawl.

Might've been Pikachu or Falcon. I haven't really checked.

 

[Gargaglione]

Might've been Pikachu or Falcon. I haven't really checked.

Actually, either Pikachu or Kirby from what I know

 

[Johnknight1]

Rugrats spoliers:

Spoiler

They grow up

Life spoilers:

Spoiler

You are all going to die!

...EVENTUALLY!!!

 

[Moon Monkey]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/16/smash-bros-marvel-vs-capcom-break-evo-records
The ball is in Nintendo's court for EVO next year. I really hope the see this.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Life spoilers:

Spoiler

You are all going to die!

...EVENTUALLY!!!

Did you NOT see what I posted yesterday?

 

[Gargaglione]

Life spoilers:

Spoiler

You are all going to die!

...EVENTUALLY!!!

Yea, but I play with 3 stock

 

[LiteralGrill]

Guys... I have a confession...

I've been doing philosophical posts on rulesets for only one reason.

There HAS to be a stage involving a city legal. This is so that I can train with every fiber of my being to be in the final rounds at Apex with a reset bracket. I will purposely throw the first two matches of the final set, then look at my opponent and say "You think you can beat me, WELL I HAVE THE POWER OF GEORGE MICHAEL!"

The music plays and I take the next 3 matches without losing a stock...... Life will be glorious...

if someone gets that I love you

 

[Shorts]

I only know of that game because of Game Grumps, where they only make like 3 episodes of a game and quit.
Their job is to play videogames, and they can't even do that right, it's astounding how lazy they are.

It's astounding how much fan art their is for them.

Astounding.

 

[Gargaglione]

It's astounding how much fan art their is for them.

Astounding.

Yea, I really don't get it.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Yea, I really don't get it.

Because weird people exist, and they tend to run the fanbases. OF EVERYTHING.

That is a fact.

 

[MargnetMan23]

Because weird people exist, and they tend to run the fanbases. OF EVERYTHING.

That is a fact.

Coming from someone who watches game grumps (DON'T JUDGE ME) I will say that they seem to complete games more now since Jon left XD

 

[Gargaglione]

Because weird people exist, and they tend to run the fanbases. OF EVERYTHING.

That is a fact.

Yea, I know, but for something like Gamegrumps?
All they're doing is playing videogames, it's really nothing worthy of praise

at least they're better than that pewdiepie ******

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Yea, I know, but for something like Gamegrumps?
All they're doing is playing videogames, it's really nothing worthy of praise

at least they're better than that pewdiepie ****er

As annoying as he can be, I still think it's funny watching anyone freak out playing Amnesia: The Dark Descent.

 

[Nick Schovitz]

Me either I see a ton of shirts for them on shark robot and I'm like, "WTF is this!?"

 

[Gargaglione]

As annoying as he can be, I still think it's funny watching anyone freak out playing Amnesia: The Dark Descent.

Yea, it's entertaining, but to think he gets paid just to eat ****, play games, and say stuff in his stupid accent or whatever is disgusting.

 

[Shorts]

Because weird people exist, and they tend to run the fanbases. OF EVERYTHING.

That is a fact.

It's not that weird. Most of the **** would be cuter, if the game grumps werent so ugly.

 

[Demna]

What needs to be done to balance MK is give his sword regular priority.

That's true. If that were to happen, then Metaknight would be more of a balanced character. For almost five years now, all I hear about Metaknight is complains upon complains upon complains... Am I the only one here who loves battling a Metaknight? I just love to chaingrab that masked ball with Iceclimbers and kill him with a charged up-smash, he is one of the easiest characters to chaingrab afterall. Once you get the hang of the Metaknight MU, it's not as bad as it seems. I'm not saying that Metaknight is"Balanced", Metaknight surely is a really strong character. But he doesn't deserve (in my perspective) all that flaming complains about how strong he is. To be honest, I consider Snake to be equal to Metaknight. Having a huge Hitbox, extreme killing power, and never dying. That's not my point though. My point is that there is a way to beat every character quite badly, even Metaknight.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I guess people do fanart of VG LPers because of their quotes.

Chuggaaconroy, in my opinion, is the funniest LPer there has ever been.
Fanart of him, on the other hand, would probably scar my mind.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

That's true. If that were to happen, then Metaknight would be more of a balanced character. For almost five years now, all I hear about Metaknight is complains upon complains upon complains... Am I the only one here who loves battling a Metaknight? I just love to chaingrab that masked ball with Iceclimbers and kill him with a charged up-smash, he is one of the easiest characters to chaingrab afterall. Once you get the hang of the Metaknight MU, it's not as bad as it seems. I'm not saying that Metaknight is"Balanced", Metaknight surely is a really strong character. But he doesn't deserve (in my perspective) all that flaming complains about how strong he is. To be honest, I consider Snake to be equal to Metaknight. Having a huge Hitbox, extreme killing power, and never dying. That's not my point though. My point is that there is a way to beat every character quite badly, even Metaknight.

Many of Snakes attacks are slower than Meta Knight's in some way though, and his recovery isn't comparable to MK's, that's certain.

 

[Johnknight1]

Yea, but I play with 3 stock

If you played Melee like a boss, you'd have 4 stocks!

What needs to be done to balance MK is give his sword regular priority.

And cut all of his power moves' knockback by at least half, and take away a lot of his hitstun with moves.

Am I the only one here who loves battling a Metaknight?

Once you play competitive Brawl or a really campy player (hint: Meta Knight Brawl competitive players are really campy), you will hate battling Meta Knight.

Once you get the hang of the Metaknight MU, it's not as bad as it seems.

Yeah, but once you get a handle of how to approach him, you usually get beat by his broken priority, or by typical Meta Knight camping/stalling strategies.

 

[Gargaglione]

If you played Melee like a boss, you'd have 4 stocks!

That was in reference to Brawl, I'm not as into Melee

 

[Johnknight1]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/16/smash-bros-marvel-vs-capcom-break-evo-records
The ball is in Nintendo's court for EVO next year. I really hope the see this.

Nope, we have the ball, we ran a fast break, and we jumped higher than any competitive game had ever jumped beforehand AGAINST the company that made said game, and we dunked it right in their faces with all the competitive gaming scene, gaming media, and many other people watching it, and we savored that moment.

The ball was in our court, we scored, we dunkfac'd them, and we won. Now, Nintendo has to bow to the will of the masses, especially after the save the Melee stream campaign was trended worldwide on Twitter and the #1 topic on Reddit, and Mango, Wobbles, IceClimbers, SSBM, & Evo2013 trended worldwide on Twitter (all of those minus the save the Melee stream trended during the Finals). Oh, and NintendoAmerica was trending worldwide too because so many people thanked Nintendo of America!

I guess SmashChu is right; competitive smash is a pretty insignificant fanbase.

But really, it is more up to Evo's staff than anyone, but I think Melee will return, and I imagine in 2015 Smash WiiU will either replace or (hopefully) join it. Also, while I'm at it, this year's Evo has to hands down be the best video game event ever IMO. It was just amazing to watch.

With the higher attendance, viewership, and monetary value sponsorships (their sponsors this year have to be happy), they should get a bigger venue, more streams, and more coverage. Seriously, they peaked ABOVE cable television viewership averages for dozens of national networks. I don't know about you guys, but I see Evo (at least the finals) being aired live on TV in a few years with all that stuff going upwards at a rapid pace each year, especially this year, where basically everything was 50% higher than last year, which was a record year for them (last year).

 

[Demna]

Many of Snakes attacks are slower than Meta Knight's in some way though, and his recovery isn't comparable to MK's, that's certain.

Snake's onstage game is much better than Metaknight's. A good Snake will always try to stay on stage and will use B-reversal, Recoil-special, etc. to get back on his stage safely. Snake's recovery is much better than people might think, he has his C4 as a tool to reset and use his Cypher again. Snake vs Metaknight Matchup is rated as an even MU (50-50) in most stages.

Once you play competitive Brawl or a really campy player (hint: Meta Knight Brawl competitive players are really campy), you will hate battling Meta Knight

I do play Brawl competitively and I think I play quite a decent Metaknight. Whether using Metaknight or not, I know my approach to a Metaknight and what attacks to use which ultimately won't be punished. I'll agree that campy Metaknights are annoying, but they can't camp forever. A rule for edge-grab limit should be placed to limit Metknight's camping.

Yeah, but once you get a handle of how to approach him, you usually get beat by his broken priority, or by typical Meta Knight camping/stalling strategies.

Depends on who you're using against Metaknight and at what stage. You won't have as much as a problem if you space your attacks correctly.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Not sure how i feel about his down air...
It's insta-**** off-stage

 

[JamesDNaux]

Because weird people exist, and they tend to run the fanbases. OF EVERYTHING.

That is a fact.

Hey, I'm weird and I haven't ruined any fanbases...
;~;