Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[KingofPhantoms]

Nintendo doesn't organize tournaments or endorse a rule set. It's all up to the players.

Assuming we can customize characters I doubt they'll be allowed since so many things can be changed and keeping track of things to analyze and attempt to regulate would be a headache for TOs.

I think you misunderstood my post.

I meant that how you're able to select your custom character, the way to do so cannot be done when playing in tournaments.

As an example, let's say when you create a custom character, it's icon will show up on your roster.
On the roster for tournaments, the icon for this character will not appear, therefore preventing custom characters from being used.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Happy birthday Falkoopa

 

[Deleted member]

I don't really have any proof but I think they were kept for awhile during the development process to "fold" them into other characters, kind of like taking pieces off a LEGO creation and using them to make something else. Pikachu gained some properties of Pichu, Mario gained some properties of Dr. Mario, Young Link became Toon Link, Ike shared some similarities with Roy, and Lucario shared some similarities with Mewtwo.

Pichu and Young Link were not within data.
This means they were not going to come back either way.

For Pichu, we don't know.
For Young Link, Toon Link (who was also a low-priority character) was to take his place.

Mewtwo, Roy, and Dr. Mario, however, are within the data as low-priority characters. (And no, they weren't just to "give other characters their properties", as Mewtwo and Roy have unused Victory theme data and there is a placeholder slot for Dr. Mario's missing Victory theme data between Roy's and Toon Link's.)

Also to note, is that these three Veterans were not the ONLY low-priority characters; there is also Jigglypuff, Toon Link (as previously stated), Wolf, and unused character Toon Zelda/"Toon Sheik". (Until more information is given about the identity, "pra_mai" will not be listed either way).
Jigglypuff, Toon Link, and Wolf were merely the ones that were kept when time would not allow for everyone.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I played Mario games alot with my Mother when I was younger. We had a blast with em. We occasionally still fire up Mario 3 when I visit and she has the time. See who can get the most lives because we know the game like the back of our hands

My older sister played Mario with me. My Mom usually kicked my ass in Tekken and Battle Arena Toshinden to get me good enough to mop the floor with everyone else I played with. XD Then brought me into FPS games starting off with Doom, Duke Nukem, Wolfenstein and Quake.

Many years later, I would watch her 100% every difficulty of the first 3 Devil May Cry games. I took on the 4th and plan to get the HD collection to takle 1 and 3. I'm skipping 2 like she wished she had. ¦D;

It's July 2 in my timezone already. Happy birthday to me.

Happy Birthday FalKoopa! =D

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Whoops. Thought someone else posted already XD;

This post is now VOID! =D

 

[Fatmanonice]

Almost. According to Miyamoto, Dr. Mario probably isn't Mario. It's more like Metal Mario and Mario.

Wait... what?

I think I'm going to go lie down...

 

[8-peacock-8]

Wait... what?

I think I'm going to go lie down...

Dr. Mario is obviously the forth Mario Bro. The third is M. Bison

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Dr. Mario is obviously the forth Mario Bro. The third is M. Bison

WRONG. The third is Eario. Janitor of the Mushroom Kingdom.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Wait... what?

I think I'm going to go lie down...

Huh. Weird, your picture only shows up when I quote it.

And yes. He implies(key term being this) that Mario wouldn't be a Doctor among his various roles. That he couldn't see him "doing" that. Albeit, he doesn't specifically say he isn't Dr. Mario, just probably not with his wording. As for Sakurai, we don't know his views, just that Dr. Mario was unique enough to justify being a full character over a costume. Even if he's a clone in Smash(although he does have some differences, and isn't almost exactly the same like Pichu was to Pikachu).

 

[Moon Monkey]

Almost. According to Miyamoto, Dr. Mario probably isn't Mario. It's more like Metal Mario and Mario.

I thought Dr. Mario was Mario's alter ego???

 

[~automatic]

I think you misunderstood my post.
I meant that how you're able to select your custom character, the way to do so cannot be done when playing in tournaments.
As an example, let's say when you create a custom character, it's icon will show up on your roster.
On the roster for tournaments, the icon for this character will not appear, therefore preventing custom characters from being used.

I understood your post. People just wouldn't play the custom character; just like Meta Knight in banned tourneys.

But outside of tournaments, does it really make THAT big of a difference? People can adapt.

The way I see it it's not so much about adapting but how much people would want to change their experience.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Failkoopa's birthday? Well um, it's that time again:

Happy Birhday, and Have a blast!

 

[Fatmanonice]

Go home Fatmanonice you're drink.

Not a lot but when you look at some of the attacks and their properties, it's not too hard to notice like Lucario/Mewtwo's f-smash and Roy/Ike's standard special.

 

[8-peacock-8]

WRONG. The third is Eario. Janitor of the Mushroom Kingdom.

Nope. He's the fifth.

 

[kikaru]

WRONG. The third is Eario. Janitor of the Mushroom Kingdom.

Really? I could've sworn it was Guiseppe...

 

[Arcadenik]

Saying Dr. Mario is a different person from Mario is like saying DIHSO is a different person from Daisy. *gasp* Is Michaellol really Miyamoto?!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I thought Dr. Mario was Mario's alter ego???

Nope. That got jossed by Miyamoto himself. Nobody knows who it is now. He could be an alternate universe version, but he's not the same Mario from the Mario Party/Kart/Platformers/RPG's/Golf/Tennis/etc. games. It's an entirely different universe or he's somebody entirely else.

@Arcadenik: Too bad that's Miyamoto's call, not yours. They aren't the same guy anymore, at least how he views it. They probably never were.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Really? I could've sworn it was Guiseppe...

I guess he's the sixth?

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Wait... what?

I think I'm going to go lie down...

Well, after he stated that the original 7 Koopalings weren't actually related to Bowser and Bowser Jr., I can't say I'm surprised he'd throw out something like this...

 

[Terrazi Terrajin]

It's pretty sad since Superbot did legitimately care about PSASBR and they really wanted it to be successful. Hell, the guys were willing to work on it as long as they possibly could.

And then Sony cut them and gave it to SSM, who have yet to do /anything/ with it. (as expected, I mean just look at the latest twisted metal and starhawk)

 

[Wario Bros.]

Really? I could've sworn it was Guiseppe...

I'll see your Guiseppe (and Eario) and raise you a Dave:

 

[Baskerville]

Dr Mario isn't Mario? Probably Nanomachines.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Well, after he stated that the original 7 Koopalings weren't actually related to Bowser and Bowser Jr., I can't say I'm surprised he'd throw out something like this...

How the Koopalings and Bowser Jr. were born is a mystery, but now the identity Dr. Mario is going to be a bigger one.

 

[LiteralGrill]

And then Sony cut them and gave it to SSM, who have yet to do /anything/ with it. (as expected, I mean just look at the latest twisted metal and starhawk)

Not to mention Sony announcing the game is dead, thus killing it VERY quickly.

 

[Fatmanonice]

So I guess that means Nurse Peach is a separate character too? brb... gathering supplies to construct a monolithic hand giving the finger right out front of Nintendo of Japan's HQ...

 

[Arcadenik]

I think Mario is really a doctor in real life. It's just that he and his nurse play a plumber and a princess in a show called Super Mario Bros. Just like how DIHSO plays a princess in said show. It's the only explanation why Mario and Bowser are always playing sports like best buddies.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Why the hell are there so many "third brothers"? Does no one know how to count any more, or use condoms?

 

[Fatmanonice]

Why the hell are there so many "third brothers"? Does no one know how to count any more, or use condoms?

*makes a quip about Roman Catholics and gets permabanned*

I regret nothing...

 

[Metal Overlord]

Merry birthmas FalKoopa

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Mario isn't a Doctor.

He did not say anything specific to Peach, though. I think it really depends if Dr. Mario is an alternate version of Mario(as in a different one from the regular Mario) or not. I have two theories.

* Dr. Mario comes from a different universe than regular Mario. This means that Nurse Peach is a different Peach as well. Likewise, Wario and Metal Mario also exist in this universe as alternate versions.
* Dr. Mario isn't Mario at all and just looks similar to him. Everybody else has dressed up to play in his games. Like Metal Mario was the actual Mario.

The first theory works better since we see Baby Mario and Metal Mario in different games with Mario as separate characters. Also, Mario does officially play sports with Bowser and beats him up the next day. They're all actors with roles. Except Mario doesn't have a Doctor role apparently. According to Word of God, anyway. It doesn't fit his vision of what Mario is. He's essentially too violent, if you will, for the role.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Dr Mario isn't Mario? Probably Nanomachines.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

He's essentially too violent, if you will, for the role.

So a reverse Pre-Brawl Villager?

 

[Arcadenik]

Are Daisy and DIHSO the same person or are they separate characters?

 

[Metal Overlord]

Dr. Mario is a dietician

lol

 

[KingofPhantoms]

DIHSO? What?

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

DIHSO? What?

Daisy in her Sports Outfit.

 

[Arcadenik]

Daisy in her sports outfit.

Ninja'd but yes. That!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

So a reverse Pre-Brawl Villager?

Hell yes.

Both Daisy's are the same, yes. Because her roles don't contradict what she does. He has made no statements about any characters besides Mario and Dr. Mario probably being different. Everybody else are just actors with various roles.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Daisy in her Sports Outfit.

Ahh.
I still don't get why they only included Daisy in her Strikers outfit as a trophy in Brawl.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Mario isn't a Doctor.

He did not say anything specific to Peach, though. I think it really depends if Dr. Mario is an alternate version of Mario(as in a different one from the regular Mario) or not. I have two theories.

* Dr. Mario comes from a different universe than regular Mario. This means that Nurse Peach is a different Peach as well. Likewise, Wario and Metal Mario also exist in this universe as alternate versions.
* Dr. Mario isn't Mario at all and just looks similar to him. Everybody else has dressed up to play in his games. Like Metal Mario was the actual Mario.

The first theory works better since we see Baby Mario and Metal Mario in different games with Mario as separate characters. Also, Mario does officially play sports with Bowser and beats him up the next day. They're all actors with roles. Except Mario doesn't have a Doctor role apparently. According to Word of God, anyway. It doesn't fit his vision of what Mario is. He's essentially too violent, if you will, for the role.

On the back of the NES box art version of Dr. Mario. It refers to Dr. Mario as Mario.

Spoiler

Sorry for the low res, best i could find.

Second sentence just says Mario throws multi-colored...

Can you post a link, to where Miyamoto says this? (This is some ground breaking **** right here. )
All sites I have looked up have said Dr. Mario is Mario that has taken up a new occupation, or is Mario's alter ego.
I'm sure you right, Nintendo is known to backtrack, erase and disregard past statements.
*cough*Legend of Zelda Time Line*cough*