Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Baskerville]

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-smash-bros-wii-u-3ds-final-names-revealed
As I expected

 

[Starphoenix]

Well, going to have to read everything after I get off later.

 

[Fatmanonice]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/smash-bros-wii-u-3ds-might-not-release-at-the-same-time

As title says, Wii U and 3DS might have different release dates due to the 3DS having difficulties incorporating characters with more than one fighter such as the Ice Climbers. (So I guess the Climbers are pseudo-confirmed as well.)

"More than one fighter." This could mean a number of things. This could mean people like Samus/ZSS, Zelda/Sheik, and Pokemon Trainer or this could mean more characters that play like the Ice Climbers or both. The plot thickens...

 

[Popsydoodles]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/smash-bros-wii-u-3ds-might-not-release-at-the-same-time

As title says, Wii U and 3DS might have different release dates due to the 3DS having difficulties incorporating characters with more than one fighter such as the Ice Climbers. (So I guess the Climbers are pseudo-confirmed as well.)

Thats plural...interesting...

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Everyone who was against Fitgirl should apologize she taught the cast how to balance. Even John, one of the most vocal haters has seen the error of his ways.

 

[Baskerville]

http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533
So I'm guessing this is a subtle way of saying "No Snake & Sonic"?
Smaller roster I'm kinda sad by though.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Well you guys better hope your dream characters make it into the roster because DLC seems like it is up in the air.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-no-plans-for-smash-bros-dlc-tripping-removed

 

[NatP]

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-no-plans-for-smash-bros-dlc-tripping-removed

"The series creator described the gameplay direction of Super Smash Bros. Wii U and Super Smash Bros. 3DS as being somewhere between the faster, more competitive style of Melee and the slower, more casual design of Brawl. No doubt that will be good news for those wanting a better compromise."

OHHHHHH!!!

 

[Fatmanonice]

http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533
So I'm guessing this is a subtle way of saying "No Snake & Sonic"?
Smaller roster I'm kinda sad by though.

I doubt it. He said the same thing word for word about Brawl.

"So we're forced into the situation where we may need to reduce some characters to a certain degree. but we're really working hard in order to include as many characters as possible."

Cuts are likely but it sounds like they are going to try to make a decent sized roster to make up for it.

 

[---]

Tripping is gone?! Never really had a problem with it myself but it's nice to see a fan request be granted.

http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533

The other big thing to note is this:

The 3DS and Wii U versions of the next Smash Bros will have the same library of characters.

 

[Popsydoodles]

Well you guys better hope your dream characters make it into the roster because there is no DLC either
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-no-plans-for-smash-bros-dlc-tripping-removed

That may not be entirely true, but yeah lets hope for those dream characters without weighing in dlc as an option.

 

[Mypantisgone]

Everyone who was against Fitgirl should apologize she taught the cast how to balance. Even John, one of the most vocal haters has seen the error of his ways.

I agree.Seeing her randomly trip would ruin everything.
EVERYTHING
EDIT:I don't think no plans and no DLCs are the same thing,they just don't think about it right now.At least I hope so.DLCs are like bonuses to ADD to the game so they shouldn't think about it until the game is out.

 

[Baskerville]

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-no-plans-for-smash-bros-dlc-tripping-removed

"The series creator described the gameplay direction of Super Smash Bros. Wii U and Super Smash Bros. 3DS as being somewhere between the faster, more competitive style of Melee and the slower, more casual design of Brawl. No doubt that will be good news for those wanting a better compromise."

OHHHHHH!!!

IT. JUST. KEEPS. GETTING. BETTER!

 

[Layupfreak]

I'm not really a Mewtwo fan, but if he's his new form in his reveal trailer, I'll flip my ****.

Alight, so, let's say we get 15 newcomers. Six of them are: Megaman, Pac-Man, Little Mac, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, and Miis.

This leaves us with Nine other slots. Let's designate twp more slot to another Small franchise, and the rest to the top most wanted characters from existing franchises.

Isaac, Ridley, King K. Rool, Palutena, Roy, Mewtwo, Junior, Krystal, Shulk

Would this roster reveal please you?

that would be my top choice roaster

 

[Starphoenix]

And here we go.

 

[---]

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-no-plans-for-smash-bros-dlc-tripping-removed

"The series creator described the gameplay direction of Super Smash Bros. Wii U and Super Smash Bros. 3DS as being somewhere between the faster, more competitive style of Melee and the slower, more casual design of Brawl. No doubt that will be good news for those wanting a better compromise."

OHHHHHH!!!

I just keep loving this new game more and more. All of these interviews are making up for the lack of character reveals.

 

[ChronoBound]

Well you guys better hope your dream characters make it into the roster because there is no DLC either
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-no-plans-for-smash-bros-dlc-tripping-removed

"At the current time we have no plans," Sakurai told me. "I consider my job at this point, and my main responsibility, to make the Wii U and 3DS versions the best and the fullest experience possible. That said, once finished, it's the type of thing we could take into consideration, but for now, you could consider DLC as not being in the cards."

So we could get DLC down the road, keep in mind Sakurai changed his mind on Villager. Also, further keep in mind Nintendo's philosophy regarding DLC is for it to be entirely new content that was never held back content to begin with.

Also this...

And what about returning characters? I knew Sakurai wouldn't want to get too specific—Nintendo likes to announce characters for their big mascot fighting series with a dripfeed of news on the Smash Bros. Dojo website—but should fans expect all of their favorites from Melee and Brawl?
"The reality of the situation unfortunately is that there are certain limitations on the 3DS," Sakurai said. The 3DS and Wii U versions of the next Smash Bros will have the same library of characters.
"So we're forced into the situation where we may need to reduce some characters to a certain degree. but we're really working hard in order to include as many characters as possible."

I am going to seriously rage if characters like Mii, Wii Fit Trainer, Villager and Pac-Man bumped out some of Brawl's veterans, and the reason why we don't get some of the few deserving veteran series newcomers left.

I keep saying that if we do get character DLC in Smash 4 it will be veterans that were cut.

 

[Vintage Creep]

I don't like these news. At all. 3DS version limiting the WiiU one? **** 3DS, I always said they shouldn't have made that...
Smaller roster than Brawl would be a huge letdown.
Like, really, HUGE.

 

[Hoots]

"The reality of the situation unfortunately is that there are certain limitations on the 3DS," Sakurai said. The 3DS and Wii U versions of the next Smash Bros will have the same library of characters.
"So we're forced into the situation where we may need to reduce some characters to a certain degree. but we're really working hard in order to include as many characters as possible."

Well, here it is. This is what I've been worried about this entire time and my worst fears have come into fruition. Now that it's confirmed, I think I may need to actually stop speculating and not care about this game. Sorry, fellas.

 

[Starphoenix]

Ya know, I really would have been ok with no 3DS version. That's all I'm going to say.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

O_O

Dat news.

Smooth Criminal

 

[FalKoopa]

So we're forced into the situation where we may need to reduce some characters to a certain degree. but we're really working hard in order to include as many characters as possible.

What do the bolded parts exactly mean?

 

[Popsydoodles]

I really hope Sakurai is just trollin' like a mother f****r.

 

[Moon Monkey]

"At the current time we have no plans," Sakurai told me. "I consider my job at this point, and my main responsibility, to make the Wii U and 3DS versions the best and the fullest experience possible. That said, once finished, it's the type of thing we could take into consideration, but for now, you could consider DLC as not being in the cards."

So we could get DLC down the road, keep in mind Sakurai changed his mind on Villager. Also, further keep in mind Nintendo's philosophy regarding DLC is for it to be entirely new content that was never held back content to begin with.

Also this...

And what about returning characters? I knew Sakurai wouldn't want to get too specific—Nintendo likes to announce characters for their big mascot fighting series with a dripfeed of news on the Smash Bros. Dojo website—but should fans expect all of their favorites from Melee and Brawl?
"The reality of the situation unfortunately is that there are certain limitations on the 3DS," Sakurai said. The 3DS and Wii U versions of the next Smash Bros will have the same library of characters.
"So we're forced into the situation where we may need to reduce some characters to a certain degree. but we're really working hard in order to include as many characters as possible."

I am going to seriously rage if characters like Mii, Wii Fit Trainer, Villager and Pac-Man bumped out some of Brawl's veterans, and the reason why we don't get some of the few deserving veteran series newcomers left.

I keep saying that if we do get character DLC in Smash 4 it will be veterans that were cut.

True. So I'm guessing the WiiU one will come out earlier? Between limitations and system work arounds it is apparent that the 3DS will require some more work.

 

[Spelt]

The 3ds is supposedly more powerful than the wii (at least in most cases) so it'd be ridiculous to not have at least as many characters as there are in brawl. I'm still suspecting that there'll be more than that, by a few at the minimum.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

The context of that wording just sounds off. Reducing some characters to a certain degree.

 

[The Black mage]

Tripping has been removed?
It's not been too much of a problem in brawl, since it rarely happens, but I can like the change,

 

[Fatmanonice]

I don't see why people think the 3DS can't handle at 50+ character roster. The system is more powerful than a Gamecube and that system had some fighting games with characters beyond 40 and 50.

 

[ChronoBound]

True. So I'm guessing the WiiU one will come out earlier? Between limitations and system work arounds it is apparent that the 3DS will require some more work.

Sakurai never said anything about the games getting separate release date, what he said what that one game could be completed earlier than the other one. So for example, if Smash 4 Wii U is completed earlier than Smash 4 3DS, then its possible it could be held back from release until Smash 4 3DS is also released.

Its really reading comprehension that needs to be done here (the same with Sakurai's comment with DLC). Considering that DLC was not even announced for NSMBU at the beginning, I would not be surprised if DLC for Smash 4 happened a few months after release as well.

I am now greatly concerned about the roster, and really crossing my fingers for DLC. Why couldn't I just have gotten Ridley in Brawl?

 

[Starphoenix]

What do the bolded parts exactly mean?

Hopefully it means the 3DS version will have a more condensed roster... Either that or 3DS characters are different than their Wii U counterparts.

 

[Frostwraith]

Well... the part where 3DS version limits the Wii U version makes all these news... bittersweet. But, Sakurai stated that they're trying to put as many characters as possible, so anything can happen now.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

@Star, but the games will have the same cast.

Losing some characters sounds fairly agreeable to me. Its not like we haven't discussed characters that are expendable before.

 

[ChronoBound]

Hopefully it means the 3DS version will have a more condensed roster...

Sakurai has already said both versions will have the same number of characters. So folks, the 3DS version is going to handicap the Wii U version.

 

[TaichiYaegashi]

"The reality of the situation unfortunately is that there are certain limitations on the 3DS," Sakurai said. The 3DS and Wii U versions of the next Smash Bros will have the same library of characters.
"So we're forced into the situation where we may need to reduce some characters to a certain degree. but we're really working hard in order to include as many characters as possible."

...Can I take back what I said about the 3 other possible E3 newcomers? Give 3 good veterans that may be at risk of being cut out in their place.
I guess long as it's not anyone that the majority of the fans care for, that's sometimes hard to narrow down though.

This truly bummed me out quite abit.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

It really doesn't sound like cut talk. It just sounds like cutting down on movesets and stuff. Besides, I'm sure other stuff can be eliminated besides characters to free up space.

 

[Popsydoodles]

Sakurai already said there will be different stages depending on what you're playing on. Why can't there be different characters as well?

 

[FalKoopa]

Either that or 3DS characters are different than their Wii U counterparts.

I'll take this.

 

[Fatmanonice]

What do the bolded parts exactly mean?

In others words, cuts are going to happen but they're going to try their best to make a sizable roster.

 

[TaichiYaegashi]

Sakurai already said there will be different stages depending on what you're playing on. Why can't there be different characters as well?

Because Sakurai really wants connectivity between the Wii U version and 3DS. After hearing this, **** that.

 

[ChronoBound]

Personally, I am very doubtful on Chrom now after hearing this news unless he bumps out Ike. I can't see Sakurai including two characters that are both very similar aesthetically and in terms of feel in such a limited roster.

I also think that Smash 4 will only have 14 newcomers at best (unless he goes cut crazy).

Really, the only characters in danger for being cut are:
- Snake
- Sonic
- Ike
- Lucario
- Toon Link
- Lucas
- Wolf
- Falco
- Ice Climbers (technical limitations in the 3DS version bumps them altogether entirely?)
- ROB