Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[PsychoIncarnate]

When? All I've heard is that the character amount will be the same.

When did they say that?

So there is going to be a lot of cuts?

Edit: For some reason I thought you meant same as Brawl

 

[Shorts]

I'm hoping that's just something that got lost in translation and not Sakurai trying to be cute. Exclusive characters would kinda blow, even if it means that we end up with more total reps.

I don't see how it would blow. It doesn't make a lot of sense considering the transferring of characters from 3DS to Wii U though. Maybe they meant a literal, exclusives tranferring? Iunno. Just speculating about something hypothetical.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Something's fishy here. In the interview, Sakurai said that the number of characters would be the same, but the stages themselves would be different.

The wording there is.....odd to say the least.

 

[Hoots]

When? All I've heard is that the character amount will be the same.

Also, I'm holding off on dropping my Japanese poll until we get a confirmation on Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man.

Bomberman, and Geno will run this town once Pac-Man is confirmed

I think you may be forgetting someone (Quick! Someone draw a picture of Professor Layton on the Iron Throne!).

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Something's fishy here. In the interview, Sakurai said that the number of characters would be the same, but the stages themselves would be different.

The wording there is.....odd to say the least.

Until now situation going on here

 

[TheTuninator]

I don't see how it would blow. It doesn't make a lot of sense considering the transferring of characters from 3DS to Wii U though. Maybe they meant a literal, exclusives tranferring? Iunno. Just speculating about something hypothetical.

I just don't really like the idea of exclusive characters. The gaming industry has gotten into the habit of separating and parceling up content that should come with games by default. Nintendo has avoided screwing their fans over in this manner thus far, and exclusive characters, while not money-gouging, would certainly be a step by Nintendo toward the far more crass policies of the industry as a whole.

Just take a look at, say, Rome: Total War, for example. Nine years ago you could unlock every faction in the game with some simple text editing; now you pay for the Greeks as DLC.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Until now situation going on here

Exactly. Meaning.....

We still have no idea what that man is thinking....

 

[Oasis_S]

I just don't really like the idea of exclusive characters. The gaming industry has gotten into the habit of separating and parceling up content that should come with games by default. Nintendo has avoided screwing their fans over in this manner thus far, and exclusive characters, while not money-gouging, would certainly be a step by Nintendo toward the far more crass policies of the industry as a whole.

Just take a look at, say, Rome: Total War, for example. Nine years ago you can unlock every faction in the game with some simple text editing; now you pay for the Greeks as DLC.

Sakurai is the last person I would expect to split up content.

 

[Shorts]

Sakurai is the last person I would expect to split up content.

And yet he already has done that when he delegated character building to 3DS and the "stadium" to Wii U, as well as exclusive levels.

 

[Fatmanonice]

When? All I've heard is that the character amount will be the same.

Also, I'm holding off on dropping my Japanese poll until we get a confirmation on Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man.

Bomberman, and Geno will run this town once Pac-Man is confirmed

Apparently the comments were edited... So both games will have the same number of characters... but different characters... that's odd, to say the least.

 

[Oasis_S]

And yet he already has done that when he delegated character building to 3DS and the "stadium" to Wii U, as well as exclusive levels.

That's hardly the same.

EDIT: EH? Fat Man why would you do this to me.

 

[TheTuninator]

Apparently the comments were edited... So both games will have the same number of characters... but different characters... that's odd, to say the least.

What comment was edited? I was watching that video and the live translation simply said "both games will have the same number of characters". Nothing was said about different characters. It's possible, but hardly confirmed; remember, Sakurai is speaking through a translator, so it'll naturally be a bit awkward.

Different characters would also be a bit worrying as it means that the games would likely have completely different balance. Not a big deal if you're playing only one, but if you want to swap between them, that could be annoying.

I might be OK with characters done as "timed exclusives" that start out on one system and eventually migrate to the other, though.

 

[Shorts]

It is odd, but it's possible. Which is why I'm saying it. Sakurai already smacked us in the face once with the characters he revealed, and stage exclusives, he could do it again.

I might be OK with characters done as "timed exclusives" that start out on one system and eventually migrate to the other, though.

I would guess that's how the exclusives would work. Say, like, both games have 45 characters, but each has three different ones. If you buy both, you could get the complete 48 or something.

 

[Oasis_S]

I thought people were expecting stage exclusives anyhow? I mean, you'd expect the Wii U version to have big, gorgeous stages that the 3DS couldn't handle, and the 3DS stages to make use of the 3D effect.

 

[Fatmanonice]

What comment was edited? I was watching that video and the live translation simply said "both games will have the same number of characters". Nothing was said about different characters. It's possible, but hardly confirmed; remember, Sakurai is speaking through a translator, so it'll naturally be a bit awkward.

Different characters would also be a bit worrying as it means that the games would likely have completely different balance. Not a big deal if you're playing only one, but if you want to swap between them, that could be annoying.

I might be OK with characters done as "timed exclusives" that start out on one system and eventually migrate to the other, though.

The comments made in the article about it on Gonintendo. They were taking notes on everything that was said during the interview as they were being said.

 

[TheTuninator]

The comments made in the article about it on Gonintendo. They were taking notes on everything that was said during the interview as they were being said.

Ah, gotcha. Guess we'll be waiting a while to find out whether it was a mere translation error or if Sakurai is trolling us again.

Still, I can't imagine that Villager wouldn't be on 3DS, so I don't put much stock in the claims that find their evidence in a lack of 3DS screens for the newcomers. If Sakurai is clever enough to choose his words that carefully, he wouldn't allow such a simple slip-up.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Apparently the comments were edited... So both games will have the same number of characters... but different characters... that's odd, to say the least.

Well, maybe the mii is going to be a 3DS exclusive character and WFT Wii U exclusive

 

[Shorts]

HEY

LISTEN

https://twitter.com/ChandraONM/status/344639668723281920

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

HEY

LISTEN

https://twitter.com/ChandraONM/status/344639668723281920

Meaning he hasn't been added yet?

 

[Shorts]

Meaning he hasn't been added yet?

Or he doesn't want to reveal he's added. He's being thought about, at least.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

HEY

LISTEN

https://twitter.com/ChandraONM/status/344639668723281920

Well....This certainly doesn't make me feel any better.

So much uncertainty.

 

[TheTuninator]

Meaning he hasn't been added yet?

Probably just trolling. I'm sure that they know whether or not he's in, or at the very least he's far enough in development to be considered a candidate. Unless they really did add people late in development in Brawl? I've heard that Sonic was added pretty late. I don't recall.

Cool to hear that he's still in the running, in any case.

Well, maybe the mii is going to be a 3DS exclusive character and WFT Wii U exclusive

Mii'd fit a lot better on 3DS due to the lower-power graphics and simpler artstyle, though he'll still look terrible.

 

[Metal Mania1321]

Or he doesn't want to reveal he's added. He's being thought about, at least.

They're well aware of the fans wanting Mewtwo, and he's relevant. I can nearly guarantee his inclusion.

 

[Shorts]

Or, he's not in, and they're "considering" DLC.

 

[-Link-]

I doubt the two games will have different characters, it is probably just speculation brought up by mistranslation. Anyway, if it does happen I will be ok with it as long as all of the better characters are on the Wii U version. :D

 

[TheTuninator]

Or, he's not in, and they're "considering" DLC.

Good point! I hadn't thought of that. I assume nobody's asked them about their DLC plans yet? That is a question I'd love answered.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Alright. Someone give me the link to the rumor.

I want to read this for myself.

 

[---]

The comments made in the article about it on Gonintendo. They were taking notes on everything that was said during the interview as they were being said.

What article was that? All I can find is this.

HEY

LISTEN

https://twitter.com/ChandraONM/status/344639668723281920

Cool.

 

[Fatmanonice]

What article was that? All I can find is this.

That's the one.

 

[Kellz]

I doubt the two games will have different characters, it is probably just speculation brought up by mistranslation. Anyway, if it does happen I will be ok with it as long as all of the better characters are on the Wii U version. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vQD1yJinzeQ#t=78s
"The total number of characters is the same as the Wii U version."
I think it's safe to assume there will be no roster differences between the two.

 

[SwayneGang]

There must've been deafening cheers when Megaman was revealed...

 

[---]

That's the one.

Huh, I'm not seeing anything related to Smash besides possible new news that may or may not have been Wii Fit Trainer. I'm not seeing anything about exclusives.

Did notice that Reggie de-confirmed himself and Non-Specific Action Figure though.

 

[Banjodorf]

There must've been deafening cheers when Megaman was revealed...

I think I deafened my entire hallway, by myself. So yes.

 

[Kellz]

de-confirmed

HERE COMES THAT WORD AGAIN...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Huh, I'm not seeing anything related to Smash besides possible new news that may or may not have been Wii Fit Trainer. I'm not seeing anything about exclusives.

Did notice that Reggie de-confirmed himself and Non-Specific Action Figure though.

All he said was "You'll have to talk to Sakurai about that"

 

[Deleted member]

"-Reggie says having him appear in Smash Bros. would be a discussion to have with Sakurai, same goes for Non-Specific Action Figure"

....so Reggie being in Smash had been brought up before?
If it weren't for the whole Wii Fit Trainer ordeal, I bet people would be ecstatic to kick ass and take names as the Regginator. His body is ready.

 

[---]

HERE COMES THAT WORD AGAIN...

Considering the characters in question I regret nothing.

 

[Big-Cat]

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I'm here to kick ass and play Smash Bros., and I'm all out of ass.

And yet he already has done that when he delegated character building to 3DS and the "stadium" to Wii U, as well as exclusive levels.

You know. This reminds me of something we discussed a while back. What if the Mii is Smash's answer to Tekken's Combot? After all, Combot is treated as its own character (though almost no one ever uses it). If this is the case, then this makes me much more accepting of the Mii. I mean, the Mii's appearance is customizable in terms of facial features, hair, gender, and especially height. There's no way they can make a viable character with a key property, height, left as a variable.

 

[Deleted member]

I think it's more or less the fact that "deconfirmed" isn't a word.

 

[TheTuninator]

Reggie fans can take solace in the fact that Mii's inclusion, if it happens, may as well be a de facto Reggie inclusion.