Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[PsychoIncarnate]

I doubt very many people really want skull kid

 

[Pyra]

He would be a cool character to have if it wasn't for the fact he was only interesting in Majora's Mask, but you can't get a moveset or anything from him from that...

And in the other games, he's not wearing Majora's Mask so he's boring.

 

[augustoflores]

ehhh... i'm just the messenger...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

You do know there was a bot hack war on that poll, and the only reason skull kid won is because the operation moonfall people wanted a zelda character to win/ promote a majora's mask remake, right?

Sites like Zelda Informer bot voted, just like they did on the operation moonfall support

 

[~automatic]

*Rolls eyes at yet another poll*

The best team name ever is the team name my brother and I use: "The F-Minus Team!"

I like the classics. "Two [Top Tier Char]s" is timeless if you ask me. And it's a mindgame before the actual match, lmao.

But yeah, the best doubles names come from people who have history.

 

[augustoflores]

what poll? what zelda informer? are you talking to me, even?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

what poll? what zelda informer? are you talking to me, even?

The twitter you posted links the VGT Smash Poll where Skull Kid "won".

However, he only won because he was bot voted

 

[augustoflores]

ohh! i see now... lol i didn't even click on the link in the twitter... heh, i feel stupid now... i thought it began on twitter and grew there... meh, oh well...

 

[Wario Bros.]

Don't forget Sakurai doesn't have any care in the world on this Skull Kid poll (rigged or not) since this is on Twitter, something Sakurai NEVER reads or listens to.

 

[FlappyFalco]

Skull Kid would be OK but I'd prefer Toon Zelda/Tetra/Phantom or Vaati.While I did like Majora's Mask,it's just so overrated.Nintendo has said that the next game for 3DS will probably be a Twilight Princess sequel because making 2 remakes in a row would be lazy of them.OOT 3D had such little differences(there's a list on Zeldapedia,some were even negative)I'm not even going to waste my money on it.Since MM already had boss replay,there are going to be even less differences.An NEW Zelda please,remakes no thank you.

 

[Pyra]

My favorite Zelda game is Majora's Mask, because of how creepy it is (plot, setting, characters, MOON.)

I do want a MM representative, but not skull kid. Mask Link for the next gen Young Link, imo.

But I think there's a thread for zelda character discussion in the other subcategory. If I remember correctly.

 

[Noble Six]

Lloyd from Tales of Symphonia would be awesome

 

[FlappyFalco]

My favorite Zelda game is Majora's Mask, because of how creepy it is (plot, setting, characters, MOON.)

I do want a MM representative, but not skull kid. Mask Link for the next gen Young Link, imo.

But I think there's a thread for zelda character discussion in the other subcategory. If I remember correctly.

Yes,but they'd have to cut Toon Link and that won't happen since Spirit Tracks(makes The Wand of Gamelon look like a masterpiece)came out since Brawl and he's supposed to be in Zelda Wii U.Besides why would you cut this guy?:

This is general discussion if I remember,you can talk about anything you like!

 

[N3ON]

I very much doubt Toon Link will be cut for Mask Link, who has very little popularity compared to Toon Link and has appeared in one game and possibly a remake, compared to the multiple Toon Link has starred in. Plus for every mask he had, it would require a different moveset, and I would suspect that Sakurai would prioritize other characters above one rarely requested one that would require double or triple the work.

Yes,but they'd have to cut Toon Link and that won't happen since Spirit Tracks(makes The Wand of Gamelon look like a masterpiece)came out since Brawl and he's supposed to be in Zelda Wii U.

No information has been given about Zelda Wii U yet, so we don't know what Link will be in it, though if I had to guess it would be some version of "adult Link".

 

[FlappyFalco]

I very much doubt Toon Link will be cut for Mask Link, who has very little popularity compared to Toon Link and has appeared in one game and possibly a remake, compared to the multiple Toon Link has starred in. Plus for every mask he had, it would require a different moveset, and I would suspect that Sakurai would prioritize other characters above one rarely requested one that would require double or triple the work.



No information has been given about Zelda Wii U yet, so we don't know what Link will be in it, though if I had to guess it would be some version of "adult Link".

Nintendo said the 3DS Zelda won't be a Spirit Tracks sequel(Twilight Princess sequel).They later said they had a Wii U Zelda in development.Unless it's a multiplatform game(which is very unlikely)or they go back to the 3rd timeline and make an Adventure of Link sequel,all fingers are pointing at a Spirit Tracks sequel.:toonlinkbrawl:

 

[Oasis_S]

Are you dumb.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

If it's a sequel to spirit tracks, that means it's going to suck

 

[FlappyFalco]

If it's a sequel to spirit tracks, that means it's going to sell

It's on Wii U so it'll be more like Wind Waker than Spirit Tracks.

I want it to be an indirect sequel to Majora's Mask with Fierce Deity as the final boss and I'm the director and it's gonna sell millions and.....Sorry I just got a bit excited there.

@Oasis_S:I'm just too dumb to answer that question,lol.P.S You forgot the question mark.

 

[Oasis_S]

P.S You forgot the question mark.

Did I forget.

 

[N3ON]

Nintendo said the 3DS Zelda won't be a Spirit Tracks sequel(Twilight Princess sequel).They later said they had a Wii U Zelda in development.Unless it's a multiplatform game(which is very unlikely)or they go back to the 3rd timeline and make an Adventure of Link sequel,all fingers are pointing at a Spirit Tracks sequel.:toonlinkbrawl:

That's... not how Zelda games usually work...

First of all, Skyward Sword should prove that they have no problems making a Zelda game that doesn't take place last in the chronology, it doesn't have to be a sequel, (the only one that really has gone in order is the Toon Link timeline). Secondly, there haven't been any cross-generational direct sequels other than the Toon Link games, which apparently isn't going be the 3DS game. As Toon Link seems to be sticking to portables mainly, and the fact that there are more than two Links, it would not be much of a stretch to think that the Wii U version will follow the pattern of the last two and create a new adult Link. Just because Toon Link won't be in the 3DS game doesn't mean he'll have to show up in the Wii U one.

 

[Mypantisgone]

But,I liked Spirit Tracks.

 

[Deleted member]

@N3ON: To be fair, Majora's Mask Link does come up semi-frequently in requests. It's just that it won't be nearly enough to convince Sakurai that it's worth putting in triple the work to replace an already popular Smash character.

 

[N3ON]

@SSBF
True, I might've under-exaggerated Mask Link's requests a little, but when I said "rarely" I sort of meant compared to other characters for SSB4, in which Mask Link might be in the top 50 or 75 or or something, but is no where near requested enough for Sakurai to take notice (plus the whole multiple moveset thing). Especially while characters like Ghirahim and Skull Kid (their actual chances notwithstanding) take up most of the Zelda requests.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It's on Wii U so it'll be more like Wind Waker than Spirit Tracks.

I want it to be an indirect sequel to Majora's Mask with Fierce Deity as the final boss and I'm the director and it's gonna sell millions and.....Sorry I just got a bit excited there.

@Oasis_S:I'm just too dumb to answer that question,lol.P.S You forgot the question mark.

If it's going to sell, it's going to be to people that like really sucky zelda games

Edit: I guess it isn't that bad. It's a REALLY stupid concept for a zelda game though. It isn't as bad as Phantom Hourglass

 

[FlappyFalco]

That's... not how Zelda games usually work...

First of all, Skyward Sword should prove that they have no problems making a Zelda game that doesn't take place last in the chronology, it doesn't have to be a sequel, (the only one that really has gone in order is the Toon Link timeline). Secondly, there haven't been any cross-generational direct sequels other than the Toon Link games, which apparently isn't going be the 3DS game. As Toon Link seems to be sticking to portables mainly, and the fact that there are more than two Links, it would not be much of a stretch to think that the Wii U version will follow the pattern of the last two and create a new adult Link. Just because Toon Link won't be in the 3DS game doesn't mean he'll have to show up in the Wii U one.

WARNING:This may sound very nerdy and hard to understand if you do not understand the chronology of the Zelda universe!

They can't create a new Link unless they put one before Skyward Sword,since it would have to take place after any of the latest games in the 3 timelines (Adventure of Link,Spirit Tracks,Twilight Princess)and with a TP sequel already booked for the 3DS and the AoL timeline abandoned,they have 3 options:1.they make a Skyward Sword sequel,2 they make an AoL sequel,3 they make a Spirit Tracks sequel(best option).

Why would they wait for the TP sequel to be finished then make the ST sequel at the end of the 3DS's life,when they could make it on Wii U now?Why would they continue make Toon Link games on portable when the past two have been rubbish,while the only one on home console was the best Zelda ever made(in my opinion)?Why make a sequel to a game that will only be 3 years old when it's sequel comes out?Why would they make a sequel with a new villian(since the past 2 games in that timeline had Ganon they would have to make a new one)when they are better off making a sequel to a newer instalment?

Besides,they want to make the 2 new Zeldas as different as possible.If they put Toon Link in one and Realistic Link in the other it would be for the best.

 

[Oasis_S]

Are you dumb.

That's a dumb question.

 

[N3ON]

WARNING:This may sound very nerdy and hard to understand if you do not understand the chronology of the Zelda universe!

They can't create a new Link unless they put one before Skyward Sword,since it would have to take place after any of the latest games in the 3 timelines (Adventure of Link,Spirit Tracks,Twilight Princess)and with a TP sequel already booked for the 3DS and the AoL timeline abandoned,they have 3 options:1.they make a Skyward Sword sequel,2 they make an AoL sequel,3 they make a Spirit Tracks sequel(best option).

They can make as many Links as they want; they never said there couldn't be games between the ones we already have in the timeline. Sure, games between direct sequels won't be happening, but a game in the middle of a timeline isn't out of the question, it isn't limited to the beginning or the end of chronology. Just because now we've got an official timeline, doesn't mean games can't be added in the middle like they always have been. Secondly, Aonuma said it wouldn't be a direct sequel to the DS games. "Sequels" and direct sequels in Zelda are very different, and technically the 3DS game could still take place in Toon Link's timeline, though I would agree that seems unlikely.

Also, nowhere has it been said that the 3DS game will be a sequel to TP or even take place in that timeline. So far, no information, other than that it won't be a direct DS sequel, has been given to either game. Just because it's the only "active" timeline that wasn't "deconfirmed" doesn't mean it will automatically take place then, it really could happen a number of different places in the whole timeline. Plus, doesn't FSA take place after TP in the timeline? By your logic, it would have to be a FSA sequel, not a TP sequel.

Why would they wait for the TP sequel to be finished then make the ST sequel at the end of the 3DS's life,when they could make it on Wii U now?Why would they continue make Toon Link games on portable when the past two have been rubbish,while the only one on home console was the best Zelda ever made(in my opinion)?Why make a sequel to a game that will only be 3 years old when it's sequel comes out?Why would they make a sequel with a new villian(since the past 2 games in that timeline had Ganon they would have to make a new one)when they are better off making a sequel to a newer instalment?

Besides,they want to make the 2 new Zeldas as different as possible.If they put Toon Link in one and Realistic Link in the other it would be for the best.

There are alot of questions here, I'll try to answer most of them. 1) Because those aren't the only two options, and it would break the likely precedent. 2) Because Toon Link doesn't get priority over any other Link, and the games' quality aren't indicative of which Link is used. 3) Because there's been even less time between direct Zelda sequels than 3 years. The original and Adventure of Link? Oot and MM? 4) Why would they be better off without a new villain? They've made direct sequels with different villains, and those games have been fine. Plus, them being better off with a sequel to a newer installment contradicts your previous point.

Lastly, they don't have to just use existing versions of Link, I don't know where you got this idea. Two new versions (or one new -- because the Wii U version will almost certainly have a new Link -- and one old) of Link would be very different as well. And honestly whatever Link looks like isn't as important as the actual game, and I'm sure those two will be different enough even without taking Link's appearance into consideration.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Tyrogue dude, no offense, but the space bar is your friend, just saying

 

[Lukingordex]

I missed the old Smash Bros. for Wii U thread...

 

[~automatic]

This is about the same imo.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I missed the old Smash Bros. for Wii U thread...

That place was prone to off-topic clutter though, and it wasn't really a social thread. Here, you can do social conversations, so going off-topic is not as looked down upon, as long as it's kept in this very thread.

 

[FlappyFalco]

@N3ON:1.I guess so.Here are their options for the Wii U:1.TP sequel.2.SS sequel.3.ST sequel.4.FSA sequel.5.AoL sequel.6.Squeeze a new Link between 2 previous games.

2.Fair enough.

3.Yes,but that was before there was an offical timeline and several loose ends to deal with.

4.It appears you didn't understand me there,what I meant was if it was an AoL sequel it would have to have a new villain because Ganon being revived 3 times in a row would be ridiculous.

I still think a ST sequel for Wii U while a TP sequel for 3DS would be the best option,but as you say there are more options.

@Metal Overlord:Noit'snot.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Yes, Tyrogue... yes, it is

You seem pretty cool overall but your severe neglect of using the space bar after every sentence and punctuation makes your posts kind of hard to read, especially when you make lengthy posts

Now do as your overlord commands or I shall force you to watch 2 Chainz dance endlessly:

Spoiler

 

[Baskerville]

I'll be the first one to see OH LAWDY DAT BOOTEH!

 

[N3ON]

@N3ON:1.I guess so.Here are their options for the Wii U:1.TP sequel.2.SS sequel.3.ST sequel.4.FSA sequel.5.AoL sequel.6.Squeeze a new Link between 2 previous games.

It would be easier to list when there couldn't be a new game in the timeline, lol, but yeah, any of those is possible, though some are more likely than others.

3.Yes,but that was before there was an offical timeline and several loose ends to deal with.

True, but there have been non-direct sequels that are adjacent on the timeline but came out less than three years apart. I would agree it's not very likely for that to happen now, as the only Zelda game that will have been released in the last three years is SS, but it's not impossible.

4.It appears you didn't understand me there,what I meant was if it was an AoL sequel it would have to have a new villain because Ganon being revived 3 times in a row would be ridiculous.

Sorry.
Technically if the game took place long enough after AoL, then Ganondorf being revived again wouldn't be so far-fetched, but I would agree that it's not likely to take place after AoL, they seem to be content with that being the end of that timeline. Though since it was the timeline where Link was defeated, I suppose it might at least defend why Ganondorf has been revived so many times in it.

But personally I agree with you here, I don't think the 3DS or Wii U game will take place after AoL, though it could happen.

There are just so many options when the new games could come out, I'm not even going to bother hypothesizing when in the timeline they'll come out. And honestly that's not even an important part as long as the games are good (which they almost definitely will be).

 

[~automatic]

... watch 2 Chainz dance endlessly:

Spoiler

 

[Ghirahilda]

Can I throw myself of the window instead?

 

[Hoots]

Yes, Tyrogue... yes, it is

You seem pretty cool overall but your severe neglect of using the space bar after every sentence and punctuation makes your posts kind of hard to read, especially when you make lengthy posts

Now do as your overlord commands or I shall force you to watch 2 Chainz dance endlessly:

Spoiler

Agreed. I'm not exactly sure how someone can learn to write and type while still thinking periods and commas don't need spaces after them. My beautiful language. She cries.

 

[~automatic]

That's the American public education system.

 

[Ferio_Kun]

That's the American public education system.

True enough... v_v