Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[augustoflores]

TWEWY2 + Smash Bros stuff

 

[FlappyFalco]

@~automatic:But I don't live in America.

@Hoots:Too bad.

@augustoflores:That's not your YouTube account,is it?

 

[~automatic]

I wasn't talking about you.

 

[augustoflores]

I'm not Australian...

 

[Baskerville]

Even though this isn't anything Smash related its still big nonetheless.

 

[Lukingordex]

Again,I missed the old smash bros for Wii U thread,here I could troll and earn free posts for it

 

[RomanceDawn]

So we have all seen this news, but look at how they are reporting it. All characters will have all new skills? Is this something that every other site missed or just a messed upmtranslation. I hope it's true.

Sakurai from HAL Laboratory, producer of Kirby and Smash Bros. series had an hour of keynote speech at CEDEC developer conference, he mentioned that in the upcoming Smash Bros title, all characters will have new skills, there are many new characters, and it is fun to work on these features.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

Or was this stated elsewhere and I just missed it?

 

[Big-Cat]

Saying ALL RETURNING characters will have something new was not said in the other reports. Of course, I have never seen the original line in context do this could be interpretation. I hope it's right.

 

[RomanceDawn]

Saying ALL RETURNING characters will have something new was not said in the other reports. Of course, I have never seen the original line in context do this could be interpretation. I hope it's right.

Sorry to get hopes up. Not that this isn't likely. But that site I quoted is notorious for added mystery details like that. So at the moment this should just be taken as just a liberty they took when writing their statement.

Still though I hope to god each character gets at least 2 brand new moves that are completely unique in their animation and their properties. Well the Brawl newcomers are fine, but I think the original 12 really need some new tricks.

 

[Oasis_S]

He did say, for Brawl, that all characters would be... Don't remember the exact phrasing, but the gist was that all returning characters were going to be "remade" from the ground up, analyzed to see where changes could be made. So even if he did say that all characters would be once again be given new things, that shouldn't be surprising.

 

[army man]

Again,I missed the old smash bros for Wii U thread,here I could troll and earn free posts for it

Ya, back in the day, that was great, only reason i have this much, now its once a day lol

 

[~automatic]

... but I think the original 12 really need some new tricks.

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

[augustoflores]

they broke Mario... they need to re-break him.

 

[N3ON]

I'm sure some new skills will be implemented to all characters, even if it's only one or two new moves (which would honestly satisfy me), I mean there's been a new skill added in each Smash so far (side special, FS, etc.), I don't think it will stop now. So even if that quote has been mistranslated or just fabricated, I still think it will come true nonetheless.

I'm also guessing we'll have one or two new characters with new "gimmicks", though honestly I can't even begin to speculate what they might be. I would never have guessed gimmicks like the Pokemon Trainer or the Ice Climbers before they were included.

And I'd be fine if the original twelve were just changed so most of them didn't suck, I wouldn't mind if they kept their movesets the same. (except Link's gale boomerang, the fairly useless FLUDD, and some of the FSs).

 

[augustoflores]

CRAP!!! I just realized something... Nintendo wants SSB4 out by the end of 2013, right? well, much to my chagrin, they will more than likely utilize the Skyward Zelda model. Originally, i was banking on a new Zelda game to be announced for the 3DS and that it would have THAT zelda... a teenage zelda... 16... I still don't want to see that Pure Hearted Skyward Zelda to attack, it feels wrong (when peach fights, it feels so right! lol)

I kinda want the Ocarina Zelda back... y'know... the A Cup one...

 

[N3ON]

I'm guessing the only thing that would change the current LOZ models in SSB4 from Skyward Sword versions would be Zelda Wii U, but I think that's still too early in development for Sakurai to base those designs off of (though I wouldn't mind being wrong -- the SS designs honestly aren't my favorite). The main three (Link/Zelda/Ganondorf) have always been based off main console designs, and even if the 3DS game uses adult Link, I still have a feeling that unless LOZ Wii U is further in development than we know, we will be getting the SS designs. I'd love if they could all stick to their OoT designs forever too (although that Wii U tech demo Link design was pretty awesome), but that sadly won't be happening.
Though there might be a small chance that Ganondorf and Sheik get their OoT appearances due to the remake, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Also, where'd you hear that Nintendo wants SSB4 in 2013? AFAIK the release date is still up in the air, with IGN once stating it would be in 2013 without anything to back that up. Though the last few days I haven't been following news or anything.

 

[RomanceDawn]

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Nah, Yoshi, Ness, Link and Samus need some work. But Link will probably never be any good if out side people are balancing him. I mean really why is that? Who at Nintendo thinks they know how powerful Link should be in Smash Bros? That's a load of crap if you ask me.

Ganondorf and Shiek will probably get Skyward Sword design. In exactly the same way Shiek got a Twilight Princess design specifically for smash.

 

[augustoflores]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/07/masahiro-sakurai-talks-super-smash-bros-4

it hasn't been confirmed though. knowing Sakurai, it would be delayed to 2014, IGN sould realize that the 2 year development model means nothing to nintendo.

 

[N3ON]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/07/masahiro-sakurai-talks-super-smash-bros-4

it hasn't been confirmed though. knowing Sakurai, it would be delayed to 2014, IGN sould realize that the 2 year development model means nothing to nintendo.

I think since that article came out people have realized to take that one instance of a confirmed date with a grain of salt, as that's literally the only place a release date is given, and even to the side of that article the release date still says TBA, not 2013 or TBA 2013. I'm pretty sure no other website has confirmed a tentative 2013 date, so many people just assume it's IGN treating their placeholders as fact again. It's not the first time they've done it.

If by some small chance they turn out to be right, I would agree with you, it will most likely get delayed into 2014. But because it's so early in development I don't think either Sakurai or Nintendo would give a release date (even one as general as 2013) yet.

 

[FlappyFalco]

I'm guessing the only thing that would change the current LOZ models in SSB4 from Skyward Sword versions would be Zelda Wii U, but I think that's still too early in development for Sakurai to base those designs off of (though I wouldn't mind being wrong -- the SS designs honestly aren't my favorite). The main three (Link/Zelda/Ganondorf) have always been based off main console designs, and even if the 3DS game uses adult Link, I still have a feeling that unless LOZ Wii U is further in development than we know, we will be getting the SS designs. I'd love if they could all stick to their OoT designs forever too (although that Wii U tech demo Link design was pretty awesome), but that sadly won't be happening.
Though there might be a small chance that Ganondorf and Sheik get their OoT appearances due to the remake, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Wait,since Ganon techniclly isn't in SS(Demise,his ancestor is)they might just make up new models for them,like with Sheik in Brawl.Anyway if they do use Zelda's SS model,then all the Zelda users will switch to Toon Zelda(who will probably be a Luigified clone).

Link's appearance was one of the reasons I hated SS,that and the fact that it got a 10 from IGN(even though WW and TP are clearly better games).

 

[~automatic]

Four Swords Adventures is the best Zelda game ever.

 

[FlappyFalco]

Four Swords Adventures is the best Zelda game ever.

No,the Wand of Gamelon is!

 

[Robert of Normandy]

No,the Wand of Gamelon is!

psh. Faces of Evil is SOOOOOOOOO much better.

 

[vicgur]

How dare you, guys? How dare you?

 

[Metal Overlord]

Again,I missed the old smash bros for Wii U thread,here I could troll and earn free posts for it

The old thread was alright, but I like this setup a lot better

 

[Diddy Kong]

CRAP!!! I just realized something... Nintendo wants SSB4 out by the end of 2013, right? well, much to my chagrin, they will more than likely utilize the Skyward Zelda model. Originally, i was banking on a new Zelda game to be announced for the 3DS and that it would have THAT zelda... a teenage zelda... 16... I still don't want to see that Pure Hearted Skyward Zelda to attack, it feels wrong (when peach fights, it feels so right! lol)

I kinda want the Ocarina Zelda back... y'know... the A Cup one...

Don't worry.

Cause this:

Spoiler

Is much better than this:

Spoiler

So it all will be fine.

 

[SmashChu]

I love how Diddy thinks the characters everyone likes will be replaced with one no one cares about.

 

[augustoflores]

I'n not worried about the transformation, diddy, i'm worried about zelda... the character.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Diddy's still at it, huh

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Some habits die hard, I guess.

 

[Ghirahilda]

About Diddy and his wife Impa...

I mean, if Impa comes to SSB4, she could not replace Sheik, since Sheik IS Zelda. If Zelda is coming, it's really sure that Sheik is coming too.
If Impa come, she could have her own slot, not being a Zelda's transformation! That's logically nonsense.
Also, she's my third most wanted Zelda chacacter.

 

[Deleted member]

@Diddy Kong: Just make a thread for Impa already and keep all Impa-related post there.

I love how Diddy thinks the characters everyone likes will be replaced with one no one cares about.

Unfortunately, Diddy Kong is not alone in this thinking. It seems as the Impa infection has spread as time went on as I see more and more rosters replace Sheik with Impa.

I will bet my copy of SSB4 and $100 that Sheik stays and Impa is left out. There is no reason why Sheik should be cut for Impa when we have a much better potential Zelda rep in Ghirahim.

People want to know why I so virulently oppose any cuts on Nintendo vets and abysmal suggestions like cutting Sheik for Impa are reasons why.

Impa is one of the worst suggestions that gets semi-regular mentions. Even if she was a standalone character and Sheik stayed, I still would be against her inclusion.

 

[KirbyandSonicrock14]

How are we going to play Smash 4 on a WiiU?

 

[FlappyFalco]

How are we going to play Smash 4 on a WiiU?

How did we play Smash 3 on a Wii?

@SSBF:I agree,Impa is too like Sheik and not famous enough to be Zelda's transformation.Ghirahim and Toon Zelda are better picks for a Zelda rep.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

A mod needs to get this and spread it on

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/08/2...and-nintendo-3ds-will-have-lots-of-new-moves/

Apparently existing characters are getting a lot of new moves!

 

[Aurane]

Don't worry.

Cause this:

Spoiler

Is much better than this:

Spoiler

So it all will be fine.

Okay, really Diddy? I've been away for awhile, and I come back for this?!

 

[Robert of Normandy]

A mod needs to get this and spread it on

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/08/2...and-nintendo-3ds-will-have-lots-of-new-moves/

Apparently existing characters are getting a lot of new moves!

Ugh. This is one thing I HATE about the SSB community, taking little things like Sakurai's original quote and wildly misinterpereting them and treating these misinterperetations as fact. Like the whole "Ridley's too big" and stuff like that.

Notice that for the "new moves" story, they don't include a quote.

Edit: Here's the original quote that everyone is going nuts about.

It’s fun making new skills for new characters.

 

[augustoflores]

OBJECTION!

Masahiro Sakurai from HAL Laboratory, producer of Kirby and Smash Bros. series had an hour of keynote speech at CEDEC developer conference, he mentioned that in the upcoming Smash Bros title, all characters will have new skills, there are many new characters, and it is fun to work on these features.

which means you didn't check the link in the link provided in the COURT ROOM!

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Masahiro Sakurai from HAL Laboratory, producer of Kirby and Smash Bros. series had an hour of keynote speech at CEDEC developer conference, he mentioned that in the upcoming Smash Bros title, all characters will have new skills, there are many new characters, and it is fun to work on these features.

Can I have a direct quote from Sakurai? Until then, I'm not buying it.

 

[augustoflores]

were you at CEDEC developer's conference?

nahhhh... i'm just playing around, i just needed a reason to use these gifs, lol

it's been a long time since i've seen someone use there here... and i'm bored.