Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Johnknight1]

Jesus Christ man. It's her opinion.

If you like the game so much, then why do you give a s*** what some reviewer said about it?

I'm not complaining about her opinion, I'm complaining about her seemingly not knowing what the person was reviewing. I mean, it sounded almost like the reviewer was expecting to play Halo, not GTA. You gotta approach each game differently. I mean, would you walk into a preparation for a review of GTA expecting Halo=???

And again, I thought the writing and pacing was pretty weak in the review.

Oh, and why are you getting offended because I think the writing, process, and mentality of the review was weak=???

Are we not allowed to critique things anymore because entitled "duality" people like you say so=???

I mean dang, calm down son and deal with me having my own opinion son.

I'm going to always call a spade a spade, a heart a heart, a diamond a diamond, and a club a club...

...BECAUSE JOHNKNIGHT1 SAID SO, AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE!!!

(also, I find it funny that someone is insulting me without much decently for critiquing someone with decency)

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Did I miss it? Is Waluigi Time over?



TOO BAD, WALUIGI TIME!

 

[Baskerville]

Xenoblade is so damn good.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Am willing to bet that Impa will become playable in Smash earlier than Waluigi.

 

[SoldierSunday]

I want this stage to be playable in smash 4

 

[Frostwraith]

Xenoblade is so damn good.

A game I regret not buying when I had the chance, to be honest... =/

 

[Big-Cat]

I like this one. Reminds me of Persona.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I'm not complaining about her opinion, I'm complaining about her seemingly not knowing what the person was reviewing. I mean, it sounded almost like the reviewer was expecting to play Halo, not GTA. You gotta approach each game differently. I mean, would you walk into a preparation for a review of GTA expecting Halo=???

And again, I thought the writing and pacing was pretty weak in the review.

Oh, and why are you getting offended because I think the writing, process, and mentality of the review was weak=???

Are we not allowed to critique things anymore because entitled "duality" people like you say so=???

I mean dang, calm down son and deal with me having my own opinion son.

I'm going to always call a spade a spade, a heart a heart, a diamond a diamond, and a club a club...

...BECAUSE JOHNKNIGHT1 SAID SO, AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE!!!

(also, I find it funny that someone is insulting me without much decently for critiquing someone with decency)

Maybe you're right. Maybe Gamespot should've put somebody else on the review, somebody more familiar with the GTA series. But I don't see how any of her criticism can be written off as "well that's just how GTA games are."

 

[Frostwraith]

You might be interested in checking this out...

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Just now read Brawl In the Family's new comic today.


As for Xenoblade-

A game I regret not hearing of until I joined the Smashboards.

 

[augustoflores]

i cant wait until Diddy Kong votes for Impa.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

You might be interested in checking this out...

metroid 3ds perhaps? thx for da

 

[Johnknight1]

I don't really care about online reviews, honestly. If the game appeals to me, I simply buy it and play.

I actually do care about them, because they are how I got into some of my favorite series ever. For instance, I thought Half-Life (the original) and Shogun: Total War (the original, lol) looked like crap. I though they were, because none of my friends back then were PC gamers.

I read some reviews online for Half-Life 1 and Shogun: Total War, and by golly, they got great scores. They convinced me to get into those games, and I owe it to the reviews for that. Those are now two series that I absolutely love.

I like hearing and listening to opinions, which is why I post here. Heck, if I didn't feel there was anyone worth hearing here, I'd leave.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Retro making a DKCR3 and Metroid Prime 4 at the same time? Could work. But why wouldn't they take help from Monster Studios, who made DKCR for 3DS. And the studio who has made the other Prime games? I understand Retro only made Prime 1? Or at least, wasn't involved with 3? PAON should help to with DKC I feel. They did the series right when Rare left. And they used the Kremlings really well.

 

[Johnknight1]

You might be interested in checking this out...

Too bad a lot of the best Retro Studios staff left for 434 studios over at Microsoft to make Halo franchise games.

Still, hopefully Nintendo continues to expand their staff at Retro Studios. It would be great to see that studio get so big they could release a major blockbuster every two years, or really good games every year.

Retro making a DKCR3 and Metroid Prime 4 at the same time? Could work. But why wouldn't they take help from Monster Studios, who made DKCR for 3DS. And the studio who has made the other Prime games? I understand Retro only made Prime 1? Or at least, wasn't involved with 3? PAON should help to with DKC I feel. They did the series right when Rare left. And they used the Kremlings really well.

I bet you they are working on both Tropical Freeze and a new Metroid game right now. Granted, the former is much more of a focus than the latter.

Also, can Nintendo like hire back a ton of the Rare staff and have them build up a new studio in Europe (specifically the UK). Seriously, the European game studio market is so under-appreciated. I bet there are tons of game developers over in Europe who are scrapping for work.

Seeing as how Microsoft isn't jumping on them and Sony has it as a low priority, it would be the perfect chance for Nintendo to get that talent and start dealing out the good games and a fresh take on a lot of different Nintendo IP's, or heck, make new ones.

 

[Frostwraith]

Retro making a DKCR3 and Metroid Prime 4 at the same time? Could work. But why wouldn't they take help from Monster Studios, who made DKCR for 3DS. And the studio who has made the other Prime games? I understand Retro only made Prime 1? Or at least, wasn't involved with 3? PAON should help to with DKC I feel. They did the series right when Rare left. And they used the Kremlings really well.

Retro Studios worked on the three Metroid Prime games.

The only Metroid Prime games not developed by Retro were the DS ones: Metroid Prime Hunters and Metroid Prime Pinball.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

You might be interested in checking this out...

Aww man, I really don't want Metroid in the hands of Retro again, unless they're stepping away from the First Person Adventure angle.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Too bad a lot of the best Retro Studios staff left for 434 studios* over at Microsoft to make Halo franchise games.

* it's "343 Industries" FYI.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

EDIT: Huh, didn't know they did the 3 Metroid Prime games. (I need to more research on Prime.....)

Also, if they continue to keep making more DKCs, I hope we get to see more of the DK crew as the series grows.

 

[Johnknight1]

Maybe you're right. Maybe Gamespot should've put somebody else on the review, somebody more familiar with the GTA series. But I don't see how any of her criticism can be written off as "well that's just how GTA games are."

Yes, they can be written off as that. The piece of the review on the political aspect of it was crazy. Everything in the game is about people indifferent to politics or politically crazy (left wing, right wing, libertarian beliefs, communism, socialism, capitalism, democracy, etc).

I mean, it's kinda like going to a comedy show. Some comedians will be super into politics and make fun of them because of that, whereas other comedians will make fun of politics because they are indifferent to them or they think they are funny. You really ought to know the difference.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Yes, they can be written off as that. The piece of the review on the political aspect of it was crazy. Everything in the game is about people indifferent to politics or politically crazy (left wing, right wing, libertarian beliefs, communism, socialism, capitalism, democracy, etc).

I mean, it's kinda like going to a comedy show. Some comedians will be super into politics and make fun of them because of that, whereas other comedians will make fun of politics because they are indifferent to them or they think they are funny. You really ought to know the difference.

??? Her review didn't mention politics. The problems she had with the game was that she felt that characters were occasionally written inconsistently, and that she didn't like the way the female characters were portrayed, which are both perfectly valid criticisms IMO.

 

[Johnknight1]

EDIT: Huh, didn't know they did the 3 Metroid Prime games. (I need to more research on Prime.....)

Also, if they continue to keep making more DKCs, I hope we get to see more of the DK crew as the series grows.

Yeah, I wanna see them continue to make Metroid and DKC games, as well as gradually work on more games. Hopefully switching between those 3 (hopefully working on two at a time without sacrificing any games' quality) we can continue to see Retro Studios grow.

* it's "343 Industries" FYI.

Nope. I changed the name this morning.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

And mine is bigger so I win.

 

[Deleted member]

You might be interested in checking this out...

Honestly, I would rather not have yet another Metroid game from Retro. Would much prefer they work on a new IP/Star Fox/F-zero.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

And mine is bigger so I win.

 

[Banjodorf]

Since the people developing A Hat in Time are all ex-rare, (well, mostly) and some of the best they ever had, and they're interested in their company becoming a part of Nintendo, maybe they can get in on the DKC action. That's like, the best possible outcome.

 

[augustoflores]

all the talent that made Metroid Prime awesome have left to 343 Industries, id Software, Armature Studios (the 3 MAIN people who made prime amazing made this studio), and i am not sure but i believe some guys went to Respawn Entertainment. All the people who make stuff amazing in science fiction probably went off to where more science fiction is offered. It's probably why the guy from Uncharted is at Retro, there's a lot of trees to make.

Spoiler

oh, and that concept artist from Vigil Games, Allison Theus, is making monster concepts for Tropical Freeze, but she's an amazingly talented artist who likes drawing lots of cool monsters beyond the nature of donkey kong.

Spoiler

if they make a new metroid, they might make it more of a nature based world of exploration with lots of volatile original beasts.

 

[Deleted member]

all the talent that made Metroid Prime awesome have left to 343 Industries, id Software, Armature Studios (the 3 MAIN people who made prime amazing made this studio), and i am not sure but i believe some guys went to Respawn Entertainment. All the people who make stuff amazing in science fiction probably went off to where more science fiction is offered. It's probably why the guy from Uncharted is at Retro, there's a lot of trees to make.

Spoiler

oh, and that concept artist from Vigil Games, Allison Theus, is making monster concepts for Tropical Freeze, but she's an amazingly talented artist who likes drawing lots of cool monsters beyond the nature of donkey kong.

Spoiler

if they make a new metroid, they might make it more of a nature based world of exploration with lots of volatile original beasts.

I really should PM you sometimes so you can give me some links ato all this neat concept art...

 

[Oasis_S]

if they make a new metroid, they might make it more of a nature based world of exploration with lots of volatile original beasts.

Metroid Prime: Introducing Viridi. (like IV, see? 4? so clever)

 

[Shorts]

How slow was this place prior to the site being closed?

 

[Deleted member]

How slow was this place prior to the site being closed?

From my recollection, the last couple of months was pretty fast. I don't think we've completely recovered from the DDoS attack yet

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Am I dreaming? Smashboards is back to normal? Please, tell me that this isn't an apparition! DX

 

[Johnknight1]

Am I dreaming? Smashboards is back to normal? Please, tell me that this isn't an apparition! DX

Nope. It is up. However, you are dreaming, because you don't actually exist.

Also, Mega Man, the Villager, and the Wii Fit Trainer aren't playable in Smash Wii U and 3DS, and instead we got Plum, Toadette, and Goomba, all of whom are clones of Luigi.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

The server is definitely not perfect yet. I doubt the DDoS is fully over.

I would like to see Waluigi in a Mario Platformer though. Not that that matters for him getting into Smash in any way. If more important characters have weaker statuses than him, well... (Being an Assist Trophy is pretty big compared to being a simple Move(Toad) or unmentioned whatsoever(Impa))

I don't think he'd honestly be playable at this point, although I still hold hopes for Bowser Jr.(just a bit more) and Toad(because he still has a chance, if Sakurai's paraphrased remark of "Movelists are not finalized and could change" means anything) entirely. And yes, I'd prefer them first before Waluigi.

I don't buy Waluigi can't be unique, however. Peach's Racket hit? Doesn't mean diddly squat to Waluigi. He can strike with a Tennis Ball, or do a sideways strike with the Racket. Just for an example. He also uses a Piranha Plant in Mario Party 3, and that could do some attacks, while also possibly firing a Fireball for another. He has very easy options.

Same applies to Toad, since he has things like the Propeller Hat. Bowser Jr. would most likely need his Paintbrush to be unique. Whether Shadow Mario shows up as playable or not wouldn't matter. He could transform into him as a taunt for a moment, or as one of his victory stances, or both. Could even be a temporary Final Smash. Who knows?

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Nope. It is up. However, you are dreaming, because you don't actually exist.

Also, Mega Man, the Villager, and the Wii Fit Trainer aren't playable in Smash Wii U and 3DS, and instead we got Plum, Toadette, and Goomba, all of whom are clones of Luigi.

I'm surprised by the lack of a Waluigi joke in this post since he's actually Luigi clone material.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I'm surprised by the lack of a Waluigi joke in this post since he's actually Luigi clone material.

Still better than Wawaluigi.

 

[Johnknight1]

I don't buy Waluigi can't be unique, however.

He can't do many things that Toad or Toadette or any generic Mario character can do.

That's what I mean by he's not very unique.

After all, we want to play as four leaf clovers, not the generic one, two, or three leaf clovers that are super common.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

He can't do many things that Toad or Toadette or any generic Mario character can do.

That's what I mean by he's not very unique.

After all, we want to play as four leaf clovers, not the generic one, two, or three leaf clovers that are super common.

Doesn't matter if some others can do similar stuff. Doesn't mean they have to.

Both Waluigi and Toad can play uniquely in the same Smash Bros. game. It's absolutely easy entirely to make them separate. So again, no, really not buying it whatsoever. The uniqueness argument doesn't really hold much water when Toad's moves from New Super Mario Bros. are easily unique that isn't used among the Mario cast while Waluigi's from the Karts and Parties are also unique from the same Mario cast.(by that, I mean the Mario cast currently in SSB)

Again, it just holds no water whatsoever and kind of never did. Not with all these different games with various different items and moves. If Mario, Luigi, and Peach aren't doing the same things that Toad could do, how does that mean that Toad would have to be clones of them when he has unique moves to go with? Or to put it another way, none of the SSB Mario cast does the moves from New Super Mario Bros.(minus... the Fireball at best), giving Toad a ton of choices. It doesn't matter if Toad can do a lot of similar stuff to some of the Mario characters if those Mario characters don't happen to have all of those moves in Smash(which is the current case).

This is kind of where your argument doesn't work, because it assumes the Mario cast actually has every move Waluigi and Toad could use, which is very much not the case whatsoever. You can't really call them unable to be unique when their unique choices don't exist in Smash. Doesn't make a lick of sense at all, man.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Nostalgia C

I'm not sure what to think of the beard

I'll wait for the official artwork

Edit:

I didn't wait long.

Nostalgia Critic: "I'm a motha****in T-Rex!"

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Kinda easy to forget at times, but I guess current Retro =/= the Retro that made the Prime trilogy; different staff now and whatnot, while many of the older staff moved on to 343 and other things.

That said, I guess I'm more open to Retro making another Metroid again, as it wouldn't simply just be a "Metroid Prime 4", but likely something more fresh.

Maybe they'll shoehorn Ridley in another random part of the timeline where you would've thought he was still "dead".