Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

well sakurai did sneak in to visit platinum studios so he might be interested on added a platinum character

http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/...layers-dont-know-about-how-hard-we-work-20893

so thank sakurai for going past 20 in melee and brawl

 

[Diddy Kong]

Oh ****. 20 characters? Smash Reboot Time! Let's all make 20 character rosters and ****.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Oh ****. 20 characters? Smash Reboot Time! Let's all make 20 character rosters and ****.

...

Actually, I wanna try to do that now.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Great, people are going to misinterpret the 20 character thing as something that's going to happen and persist that it's true.

 

[~automatic]

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Oh ****. 20 characters? Smash Reboot Time! Let's all make 20 character rosters and ****.

It feels......empty..
I would easily take out Pac for Mr. G&W now that I look at it

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'd replace Pac-Man with Diddy, but so far, pretty damn good!

Also, Luigi and Bowser have already been confirmed. So I'd cut Sonic and either Ice Climbers or Little Mac for them.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It feels......empty..
I would easily take out Pac for Mr. G&W now that I look at it

To make it work, you removed confirmed characters...

 

[LiteralGrill]

It feels......empty..
I would easily take out Pac for Mr. G&W now that I look at it

Missing WFT. If this upcoming game was 20, she'd HAVE to be in.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Oh damn yeah, well there goes Wario then. Sorry bro, but Olimar already got confirmed and I ain't throwing out Ness or Captain Falcon yet :/

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Anyone notice on the American pokemon trailer and site, they only revealed 3 Mega Pokemon?

I hope they don't reveal the other 3 at a later time and act like it's some kind of big deal

 

[Diddy Kong]

They just revealed the most popular ones. Which is understandable.

 

[LiteralGrill]

I'M GETTING BRAWL BACK TODAY!

YES! YES! YES!

I love you Melee, but Brawl means my wife will play smash with me more.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

How Amphabulous not one of the popular ones!?!

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Yes he's African American, big deal. Stuff like Power Rangers has done this crap before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJgC...outube.com/watch?v=mJgC9LEBTuQ&has_verified=1

Actually he's from New Delhi.

 

[MargnetMan23]

I'd replace Pac-Man with Diddy, but so far, pretty damn good!

Also, Luigi and Bowser have already been confirmed. So I'd cut Sonic and either Ice Climbers or Little Mac for them.

... What? OK I don't care how much you like DK Diddy is NOT that important

 

[Moon Monkey]

To make it work, you removed confirmed characters...

Missing WFT. If this upcoming game was 20, she'd HAVE to be in.

I there were no rules to Diddy's 20 roster limit challenge. It was just to make a rebooted roster of 20. At least that is what i read...

 

[Diddy Kong]

... What? OK I don't care how much you like DK Diddy is NOT that important

More important than Pac Man at least.

Still don't get the appeal. Neither do I still like Mega Man, though I am kind of warming up. Or I just don't give a damn. It's either one of those.

I like reboot rosters. Just check my Ideal Melee Roster Reboot thread if you give a damn.

 

[LiteralGrill]

http://smashboards.com/threads/20-man-roster.339791/#post-15768865

There we go! A proper thread so that we:

Please keep all general discussion limited to this thread and all character discussion in the respective character boards.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I'd replace Pac-Man with Diddy, but so far, pretty damn good!

Also, Luigi and Bowser have already been confirmed. So I'd cut Sonic and either Ice Climbers or Little Mac for them.

I tried to give every franchise one fighter. It would be odd if the Donkey Kong series had 2 and every thing else had one.

updated with Mr. G&W

 

[LiteralGrill]

Man, at first I thought 20 would be a travesty.

Now... I could handle it. It's hard because I want a bunch of characters and a large roster, but if we had great balance I could handle this.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Can we not....

With the roster of 20 thing?

I know it's for fun but it's only helping people be idiots and believe it's going to happen.

Plus how is the ''We've not made any cuts yet." applicable to ''20 characters is enough."

 

[MargnetMan23]

More important than Pac Man at least.

Still don't get the appeal. Neither do I still like Mega Man, though I am kind of warming up. Or I just don't give a damn. It's either one of those.

I like reboot rosters. Just check my Ideal Melee Roster Reboot thread if you give a damn.

Yes but not more important then some other characters that could fill up a tight set of 20, but since that's obviously not happening Diddy Kong isn't going any where now moving on...

 

[FlareHabanero]

Don't get why people would in particular be upset over a 20 roster. In fact I'd say it could actually be more diverse then a roster containing 50, because there would be a stronger emphasis on creating unique characters and create better balance. Games like Guilty Gear and BlazBlue benefit form this particular type of layout.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Yeah, let's move on before the gullible morons actually believe that we're only getting 20 characters.

 

[MargnetMan23]

Don't get why people would in particular be upset over a 20 roster. In fact I'd say it could actually be more diverse then a roster containing 50, because there would be a stronger emphasis on creating unique characters and create better balance. Games like Guilty Gear and BlazBlue benefit form this particular type of layout in particular.

Well it would feel kind of lazy to randomly decide to cut a kagillion characters and suddenly have less roster spots then melee

 

[Fatmanonice]

I get where he's coming from as a developer but, as I stated in another thread, the man is just expressing his ideals. Of course, the fanbase would crucify him if SSB4 ended up with less characters than Melee, let alone Brawl and he openly acknowledges this. In his mind, the perfect Smash game would be 20 perfectly balanced characters but he knows that this would only please the most dedicated competitive players who genuinely care.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I know everybodys psyched for Mega-Aggron

I don't get the troll here

While Aggron isn't one of my top wanted, he's still cool

 

[MargnetMan23]

I don't get the troll here

While Aggron isn't one of my top wanted, he's still cool

Aggron is awesome and all but for some reason I really ****ing love Lairon

 

[FlareHabanero]

Well it would feel kind of lazy to randomly decide to cut a kagillion characters and suddenly have less roster spots then melee

Considering that so many people only play as top tier characters, it wouldn't make much of a difference regardless.

 

[MargnetMan23]

Considering that so many people only play as top tier characters, it wouldn't make much of a difference regardless.

Meanwhile Link would be on the roster

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

its not going to be 20 characters guys he means a limit of 20 newcomers not character amount

and aren't you guys forgetting that sakurai wants all 39 characters from brawl in 4 but he can't because of the 3ds version so clearly were going to loose like only 3 to 5 characters

and 3rd of all sakurai said he wanted only 20 characters but he had to let that dream go because of us fans so it proves he will listen to us a little bit so mewtwo will probably be very very likely to return

 

[MargnetMan23]

its not going to be 20 characters guys he means a limit of 20 newcomers not character amount

and aren't you guys forgetting that sakurai wants all 39 characters from brawl in 4 but he can't because of the 3ds version so clearly were going to loose like only 3 to 5 characters

and 3rd of all sakurai said he wanted only 20 characters but he had to let that dream go because of us fans so it proves he will listen to us a little bit so mewtwo will probably be very very likely to return

Meanwhile we know that

 

[Fatmanonice]

From what I've seen following a number of competitive fighting game communities, most players only seem to care if there are at least 10 or so competitively viable characters in a game. Brawl did okay at doing this (MK, Snake, Diddy, Wario, Falco, Marth, Olimar, Ice Climbers, Pikachu, and arguably Lucario/ZSS) and most people's beefs seem to stem from how Metaknight was far away the best character in the game, nearly shutting down a number of competitively viable characters I listed above. When it comes to Smash, however, most people are just thrilled to play as their favorite characters regardless of how much they suck. Hell, if Geno was in Smash I'd be happy even if he was lighter than Jigglypuff and holding the B button for too long caused him to self destruct. I feel a lot of people are like this too with their favorite characters and why, like most fighting games, Smash will probably always be a series where at least 3/4ths of the cast will never win a major tournament.

 

[LiteralGrill]

its not going to be 20 characters guys he means a limit of 20 newcomers not character amount

and aren't you guys forgetting that sakurai wants all 39 characters from brawl in 4 but he can't because of the 3ds version so clearly were going to loose like only 3 to 5 characters

and 3rd of all sakurai said he wanted only 20 characters but he had to let that dream go because of us fans so it proves he will listen to us a little bit so mewtwo will probably be very very likely to return

I'll beat the next person who says the 3DS version means a smaller roster. The 3DS COULD HOLD BRAWL on it, no SSE and it's childsplay.

 

[Moon Monkey]

From what I've seen following a number of competitive fighting game communities, most players only seem to care if there are at least 10 or so competitively viable characters in a game. Brawl did okay at doing this (MK, Snake, Diddy, Wario, Falco, Marth, Olimar, Ice Climbers, Pikachu, and arguably Lucario/ZSS) and most people's beefs seem to stem from how Metaknight was far away the best character in the game, nearly shutting down a number of competitively viable characters I listed above. When it comes to Smash, however, most people are just thrilled to play as their favorite characters regardless of how much they suck. Hell, if Geno was in Smash I'd be happy even if he was lighter than Jigglypuff and holding the B button for too long caused him to self destruct. I feel a lot of people are like this too with their favorite characters and why, like most fighting games, Smash will probably always be a series where at least 3/4ths of the cast will never win a major tournament.

I agree. It's really a mix of what you and Habanero are saying.
There are some people who want to play as their favorite Nintendo/Nintendo affiliated characters and there are some who want to play unique and competitively viable characters.

The ideal smash game for me would excel in both areas, a sizable, varied cast of Nintendo and Nintendo affiliated characters while at the same time being balance and fostering an environment where all character are equally competitive fighters.
But such a game takes years of development, hell it has taken Street Fighter 4 quite some time just to have a varied and almost balance gameplay.
Hopefully with Wii U/3DS would make use of implementing patches to reach such a game.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I'll beat the next person who says the 3DS version means a smaller roster.

My mango works for DreamWorks, and it's confirmed that there will only be 4 characters because of the 3DS.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I still see at least 48 individual characters with about 3-4 cuts (with three of them coming from PT making an honorable sacrifice to prevent the B'AWWWWWcolapse). I'd be genuinely surprised if the number of newcomers overall is less than 12.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I'm expecting anywhere from 5 to 7 newcomers (WFT, Megaman Villager included)

 

[Baskerville]

Well to some degree, KOF 13 got it right. Hell underutilized characters like Mai can hold her own against a Hwa Jai or a Iori.
But I know what you're getting at anyway.