Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Diddy Kong]

Smash 64 was delayed in it's release in Europe, cause Pokémon didn't quite got to it's full market potential yet. Or the games where still unreleased. So, yeah Smash and Pokémon have quite a connection.

 

[Baskerville]

That trailer just sold me on the game.

 

[Mypantisgone]

So,there will be a demo,that's the special thing right?

 

[Big-Cat]

I hear Grey DeLisle and Tara Strong.

This game looks like it's the baby of a three way between Pikmin, Bayonetta, and Okami.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Now to wait for Platinum to tell us what the special thing was.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Who said they wanted to revive his series? Mario is a the top of the STAR list, and Lil'mac... well he's no where near the top. Lil'mac still represents Nintendo's retro era, even with his new, re-polished game. In fact, it seems like the game was just updated and re-released on the Wii, so it wasn't really a sequel. Yes, Takamaru is another good character to use.

regardless of whether the game is new or not, Nintendo brought him back into the limelight with the Wii game... therefore he isn't retro in the same sense as say Ice Climbers or Pit is

I understand what you're trying to say but you have to realize that your understanding of the word "retro" is more of a technical one; by retro, we simply mean older forgotten characters from Nintendo's past, Mac Daddy may be an older character like those two but he isn't forgotten

 

[FlareHabanero]

Now to wait for Platinum to tell us what the special thing was.

Free masks for everyone that purchases the game.

(Unite forms sold separately.)

 

[8-peacock-8]

Free masks for everyone that purchases the game.

(Unite forms sold separately.)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Arcadenik]

So where's the Wonderful 101 character in SSB4? *checks www.smashbros.com* Nope, no Wonderful 101 character. I was promised something special after the Direct!!!

 

[Salty the SLUG]

regardless of whether the game is new or not, Nintendo brought him back into the limelight with the Wii game... therefore he isn't retro in the same sense as say Ice Climbers or Pit is

I understand what you're trying to say but you have to realize that your understanding of the word "retro" is more of a technical one; by retro, we simply mean older forgotten characters from Nintendo's past, Mac Daddy may be an older character like those two but he isn't forgotten

Really? You brang back my post?

 

[Salty the SLUG]

So where's the Wonderful 101 character in SSB4? *checks www.smashbros.com* Nope, no Wonderful 101 character. I was promised something special after the Direct!!!

Theres a chance something could be posted around 11:00 AM EST, this happened with both Olimar and Luigi for me. When I checked the website, everything was moved around, and there was an empty spot, much like something was meant to fill it.

 

[8-peacock-8]

So where's the Wonderful 101 character in SSB4? *checks www.smashbros.com* Nope, no Wonderful 101 character. I was promised something special after the Direct!!!

https://twitter.com/platinumgames/status/365718251726061568

 

[Arcadenik]

https://twitter.com/platinumgames/status/365718251726061568

Hastily editing the Wonderful 101 character reveal trailer, eh?

 

[KingofPhantoms]

It's a matter of a franchise proving itself to the masses. I think the game is way too new to have a character make it into smash. For all we know, by now Sakurai and Co. have a roster locked down.

When Smash 64 came out Pokemon R/B/G was a hit and the special Yellow version was released around the same time as 64 was released I believe.
As for Lucas, the character may be new but the franchise has been around since 1994 and created a following. Similar to how the Pokemon series and Fire Emblem series have received new characters (Ike, Pichu, Mewtwo, Lucario) around the time of a new smash.

Well, they could possibly get a rep to promote the series, as they did for Roy's game.

You do have a point though, they may not want to add a rep for it in Smash before the game can prove to be successful.

 

[Mypantisgone]

https://twitter.com/platinumgames/status/365718251726061568

LOL at the guy who doesn't understand that Nintendo is responsible for making the game.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Well, they could possibly get a rep to promote the series, as they did for Roy's game. Though I think it's less likely for a third party, but that's just me.

You do have a point though, they may not want to add a rep for it in Smash before the game can prove to be successful.

Wonderful 101 is owned by Nintendo.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Trying to bring in another topic besides Wonderful 101, I feel that Link's Down Air should kill much earlier. It's getting quite a predictable move by now, and Link doesn't have many finishers, so if he would kill earlier with that, that'd help him a little I think.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Wonderful 101 is owned by Nintendo.

Could've sworn someone mentioned it wasn't.

Nevermind that part then.

 

[Baskerville]

He also needs to have more mobility on the ground. Having that would help him a lot.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Yeah that'd also do wonders. Just a little faster running speed would also help. But most of all, he needs to excecute moves faster. And his moves need to link better to each other.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

I'm happy with Link's nerf in Brawl. My friend only played as Link, and he used to beat me a lot... with Link. I'll be fair now and say that he needs to go down a weight class (lose some pounds), get a little faster, and have greater mobility.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Trying to bring in another topic besides Wonderful 101, I feel that Link's Down Air should kill much earlier. It's getting quite a predictable move by now, and Link doesn't have many finishers, so if he would kill earlier with that, that'd help him a little I think.

We should fix Toon Link's first since he is the superior link. Give it some horizontal mobility and make it cancelable, not necessarily immediately though.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I don't get your logic... so you are saying the Pokémon Trainer in Brawl is really someone else who is not Red... maybe he is Red's cousin Crimson... just because Pokémon Trainer has no name in Brawl?

Pokémon Trainer + Red's appearance design + no name = a person who is not named Red but someone you get to name

So... why can't we just name him and say he is Red?

Because he isn't Red.

And your second paragraph is 100% what he is, except for the fact you can't legitimately directly name him in Brawl anymore you can name regular Samus in Brawl.

Basically, any trainer name you give him is not official and, get this? It never will be. If people want to call him a false name, I'll stick with a better one called Crimson. It's just as accurate anyway.

Clearly you didn't get my logic if you think I actually think he's Red's cousin. What my logic is is that anecdotal evidence is nothing but pure crap and that's it. You can call him as you want for a fun nickname. But never ever treated him being Red as a fact, because, you know, it quite clearly isn't. This is already proven by the fact that every official(and not fanmade, since those are stupid to actually accept as a fact) source absolutely refer to him as Pokemon Trainer. Also, his Trophy describes him as the class entirely. That pretty much proved that he just isn't Red. If he was Red, at least his Trophy would, you know, refer to what he did.

Appearances are not actual characters at all. Names are when it comes to Smash if you want to be accurate.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I honestly wish they could just fuse Link and Toon Link into one character. A straight Skyward Sword design would be the best for this. :/ And I've seen adult Link's regular Neutral Air and Back Air again. Would want them to be the Neutral Air and Back Air from Toon Link's. Especially the Back Air. Having seen they'll probably go on the same way he was in Brawl, I have very little hope Link will become anything better than low tier again. Or at best be as good as in Melee.

 

[Salty the SLUG]

I honestly thought Skyward Sword was a good game, but the characters were ugly.

 

[Arcadenik]

Yoshi in Smash is not Yoshi. Yoshi's trophies in Melee/Brawl only talked about the species, not about Mario's Yoshi friend. Therefore, Yoshi will never be Yoshi in Smash and you will always be wrong no matter what. That is a fact.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Well, they could possibly get a rep to promote the series, as they did for Roy's game.

You do have a point though, they may not want to add a rep for it in Smash before the game can prove to be successful.

They could promote the series, as Kuma said there is a first time for everything. However, the difference with Roy is that, although Roy the character may be new, the Fire Emblem series has been a well established Nintendo game.
Wonderful 101 not only have no established characters, but it's series isn't established either.

A minor correction there... Mother franchise has been around since 1989.

Good looks homie.

 

[Baskerville]

Yeah that'd also do wonders. Just a little faster running speed would also help. But most of all, he needs to excecute moves faster. And his moves need to link better to each other.

Not only that, his recovery also needs to be massively buffed. By the look of the reveal trailer his Up B looks as identical as it was in Brawl, I know it is still in development but I'm tired of seeing Link getting gimped so damn easily. Oh yeah and give Link his bomb jump back, same with Samus!

 

[Diddy Kong]

Only thing ugly about the models I thought was Link's face when he just got an item. Maybe it was the angle or something? But I didn't think the characters where ugly. Only a few NPCs, but that made them far more humorous. It gave a similar charm to the Wind Waker, and **** it I love the Wind Waker.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I honestly wish they could just fuse Link and Toon Link into one character. A straight Skyward Sword design would be the best for this. :/ And I've seen adult Link's regular Neutral Air and Back Air again. Would want them to be the Neutral Air and Back Air from Toon Link's. Especially the Back Air. Having seen they'll probably go on the same way he was in Brawl, I have very little hope Link will become anything better than low tier again. Or at best be as good as in Melee.

Truthfully, I would prefer this too. It's Sakurai's preference for a Child Link being in that makes this next to impossible. At least, unless he changes his mind. And when we knew he was going to put in a Child Zelda, I'd say by the point we can just think of that as a nice dream now. :/

I'd rather open the slot for other characters, that way we could have at least five slots, being Link, Ganondorf, Zelda/Sheik, Impa, Tingle, and a 6th with some other random-but-important character.(for instance, Ghirahim or Vaati)

 

[Salty the SLUG]

Only thing ugly about the models I thought was Link's face when he just got an item. Maybe it was the angle or something? But I didn't think the characters where ugly. Only a few NPCs, but that made them far more humorous. It gave a similar charm to the Wind Waker, and **** it I love the Wind Waker.

I liked the Wind Waker art style and character models, a seemingly ageless game.

 

[Baskerville]

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I've been looking at E3 trailers quite a bit lately, and I have to say:

I LOVE THE MUSIC IN THIS ONE.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I thought only Mewtwo was getting a new form.

But I'm glad we got several, looking forward to what they've done for other Pokemon's Mega forms!

 

[Moon Monkey]

I've been looking at E3 trailers quite a bit lately, and I have to say:

I LOVE THE MUSIC IN THIS ONE.

i'm really hoping for an Aquatic Ambiance remix.

That being said I hope there are more original sound tracks

 

[N3ON]

I've been looking at E3 trailers quite a bit lately, and I have to say:

I LOVE THE MUSIC IN THIS ONE.

David Wise strikes again.

Makes me sad Retro didn't also hire Grant Kirkhope.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Anyway, got to go. I actually work today. Then I got a funeral to go to all day tomorrow.(of course, during the Melee tourney that I wanted to go to, but I was originally working that day, so... wouldn't have mattered)

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I've been looking at E3 trailers quite a bit lately, and I have to say:

I LOVE THE MUSIC IN THIS ONE.

This game looks so epic.

Hope we get some other new Kongs in this one too.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Lanky, Diddy and Dixie are my favorites. I'm not too sure on the chances of Lanky or Chunky.
I think Dixie, Kiddy, Funky, and/or Cranky will end up getting the spot.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

@0:20
...am I the only one who thought of this?