Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[KingofPhantoms]

I know I'm too slow but-


LUIGI CONFRIMED! REJOICE!

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

This has to be the best picture ever.

No, this is.

 

[N3ON]

I think he's referring to the "TV Screen" theory. I think.

Any theory formulated in like the past month is one I'm probably unfamiliar with. Including this one.

 

[Autumn ♫]

No, I'm talking about the changes from Brawl to Smash 4. Olimar was the shortest character in Brawl. Now, he's not.

He was? I thought Squirtle was.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

He was? I thought Squirtle was.

I guess Ivysaur was technically the shortest character, except when he's standing on 2 legs.

 

[O'kaz A1]

No, this is.

What does it matter, it all seems to be very nice IMO.

 

[O'kaz A1]

No, this is.

Sorry...Double Post

 

[Opossum]

Any theory formulated in like the past month is one I'm probably unfamiliar with. Including this one.

Well, if he is talking about this theory, it is the theory that Ness is seen on the Nintendog's stage on the TV Screen in the background. Think of it almost as a minor version of "the clouds" pre-Brawl.

 

[Big-Cat]

This has to be the best picture ever.

I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Well I don't doubt he'll be in the game, but what leak is this?

I think he's referring to the "TV Screen" theory. I think.

Any theory formulated in like the past month is one I'm probably unfamiliar with. Including this one.

He nailed it!

Take a look at this.

 

[Big-Cat]

He was? I thought Squirtle was.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/249/3/5/Brawl_Height_Chart_by_drag0nscythe.jpg

Though I think the chart is a bit flawed when you realize some have their knees bent or at a low stance like Wolf or DK.

 

[Kamikazek]

I agree, but I wouldn't be upset at any of the 3 making it in over each other.

Luigi's screenshots are the best of any character

How the hell did Sakurai stage that picture? He had to make a tree with villager, cut it down, get villager off camera lickity split, get a single pikmin in there but not Olimar(probably threw it over Luigi's head?), and have Luigi taunt. I mean I guess it's possible with multiple players, but man. Of course I'm assuming he didn't use any developer magic.

 

[O'kaz A1]

New pic of today:

Spoiler

Luigi: F*CK YEAH!

 

[Starphoenix]

First off, congrats N3ON on becoming part of the empir... I mean moderating staff. If there is any user deserving of that honor, it certainly is you.

Nice to see Luigi confirmed. Knew it had to happen at some point this year since it is his year after all. What surprises me -- and yet doesn't at the same time -- is how they are using his reveal to drum up awareness for Mario and Luigi: Dream Team before the title releases this Sunday, for the US anyways. I think at this point it is a little more than coincidence. Would not surprise me in the least if we see Diddy Kong and Peach revealed closer to the end of the year when Tropical Freeze and 3D World are set to release. The one interesting thing will be to see if Sonic the Hedgehog shows up in October when Lost World releases for the Wii U and 3DS. Time will tell how Nintendo and Sakurai are going to continue this trend, if at all.

Equally interesting to me is that Luigi, previously an unlockable character, has been shown so early. Hopefully his reveal is an indicator he won't be unlockable this time around. No real need for it after three games. He deserves front-man status by now. Also, I can't be the only one disappointed we didn't see a Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon stage reveal in any of the 3DS screenshots?

 

[N3ON]

Well, if he is talking about this theory, it is the theory that Ness is seen on the Nintendog's stage on the TV Screen in the background. Think of it almost as a minor version of "the clouds" pre-Brawl.

He nailed it!

Take a look at this.

I see. Well yeah, that does look like Ness (and Jigglypuff). Personally I think this is unrelated to them being characters (which is pretty inevitable), and more just an Easter Egg of some kind, but nice find anyway.

And I could never see all the faces in the clouds anyway. Embarrass

First off, congrats N3ON on becoming part of the empir... I mean moderating staff. If there is any user deserving of that honor, it certainly is you.

Thanks Star! ^_^

 

[ChronoBound]

Was this Luigi confirmation for the Year of Luigi, or Mario & Luigi: Dream Team?

If for the latter, and Sakurai's plan is to coincide veteran confirmations alongside new software that they are appearing in then:

Here are some possibilities:

Pokemon X/Y:
Mewtwo
Pokemon Trainer
Lucario
Jigglypuff

Wind Waker HD:
Toon Link

Sonic Lost World:
Sonic

Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze:
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong (though a lot less likely)

The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds:
Zelda

Super Mario 3D World:
Peach
Toad (like with Dixie Kong, much less likely)

I think we will at best be getting one veteran/newcomer confirmation per month for the remainder of the year. However, due to September being dry software wise I could see us getting no newcomer/veteran confirmation, though Wind Waker HD does come out during the last week of September in Japan.

 

[BKupa666]

Sakurai put up a Miiverse comment! And a second Pic of the Day!

"A REAL pic of the day--Luigi joins the battle! In prior games, we've never introduced Luigi before release, but why not? This is the "Year of Luigi," after all."

 

[greenluigiman2]

Was this Luigi confirmation for the Year of Luigi, or Mario & Luigi: Dream Team?

Yes

 

[Big-Cat]

Was this Luigi confirmation for the Year of Luigi, or Mario & Luigi: Dream Team?

Both. The direct refers to the Year of Luigi before his reveal, but the website ties him in with Dream Team.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

First off, congrats N3ON on becoming part of the empir... I mean moderating staff. If there is any user deserving of that honor, it certainly is you.

Nice to see Luigi confirmed. Knew it had to happen at some point this year since it is his year after all. What surprises me -- and yet doesn't at the same time -- is how they are using his reveal to drum up awareness for Mario and Luigi: Dream Team before the title releases this Sunday, for the US anyways. I think at this point it is a little more than coincidence. Would not surprise me in the least if we see Diddy Kong and Peach revealed closer to the end of the year when Tropical Freeze and 3D World are set to release. The one interesting thing will be to see if Sonic the Hedgehog shows up in October when Lost World releases for the Wii U and 3DS. Time will tell how Nintendo and Sakurai are going to continue this trend, if at all.

Equally interesting to me is that Luigi, previously an unlockable character, had been shown so early. Hopefully his reveal is an indicator he won't be unlockable this time around. No real need for it after three games. He deserves front-man status by now. Also, I can't be the only one disappointed we didn't see a Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon stage reveal in any of the 3DS screenshots?

The Olimar reveal around Pikmin 3 is now certainly not a coincidence. They'll probably continue this trend, but I suspect they won't be revealing any newcomers to the series in this manner.

Oh, and I'm also disappointed by the lack of a Dark Moon stage, hopefully we'll get some screenshots of one later, or at least get a Dark Moon stage in the game, screenshots/footage or not.

 

[TumblrFamous]

Sakurai put up a Miiverse comment! And a second Pic of the Day!

"A REAL pic of the day--Luigi joins the battle! In prior games, we've never introduced Luigi before release, but why not? This is the "Year of Luigi," after all."

Oh, there we go. Very nice pic.

EDIT: I think this shows that he's not confirmed to be a starter yet. Sakurai said himself: "Why not?"

 

[Motor Bug2005]

Was this Luigi confirmation for the Year of Luigi, or Mario & Luigi: Dream Team?

If Sakurai's Miiverse comment is anything to go by, he was revealed to coincide with the Year of Luigi; but there is a link to the official Mario & Luigi: Dream Team website on Luigi's character page so make of it what you will.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

Sakurai put up a Miiverse comment! And a second Pic of the Day!

"A REAL pic of the day--Luigi joins the battle! In prior games, we've never introduced Luigi before release, but why not? This is the "Year of Luigi," after all."

So that comment going "Pic of the day (not really)" was real after all? I don't have an account, so I can't check for myself.

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[greenluigiman2]

You guys do realize that Dream Team is part of the Year of Luigi right? They're not two separate things.

 

[Metal Overlord]

HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE

Hell the **** yeah lol they finally revealed him!!!

 

[N3ON]

Well the whole year is the Year of Luigi, but this month is Dream Team's release, so obviously Luigi was specifically chosen for this month due to DT.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

So that comment going "Pic of the day (not really)" was real after all? I don't have an account, so I can't check for myself.

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Same here.

Though, I'm kind of glad I don't have an account given what we've seen in the Miiverse Nightly Update here.

 

[Baskerville]

I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going.

Why do you do this to me?

 

[Starphoenix]

Both. The direct refers to the Year of Luigi before his reveal, but the website ties him in with Dream Team.

Pretty much this Chrono. Considering Mario and Luigi: Dream Team is the last of the the original "Year of Luigi" titles revealed -- at least as far as I remember -- it's kind of fitting they tied him into this one.

The Olimar reveal around Pikmin 3 is now certainly not a coincidence. They'll probably continue this trend, but I suspect they won't be revealing any newcomers to the series in this manner.

Oh, and I'm also disappointed by the lack of a Dark Moon stage, hopefully we'll get some screenshots of one later, or at least get a Dark Moon stage in the game, screenshots/footage or not.

Probably safe to say any newcomers are going to be independent of what games are coming out unless they are a Pokémon or a third party character, otherwise it will probably be this monthly drip of cross promotional veteran reveals.

Considering how many Olimar screenshots we had the week after his reveal, we probably haven't seen everything Luigi has to offer.

 

[FlareHabanero]

This Luigi reveal makes me think on a few things.

First off, that hypothesis of at least one character being revealed everyone month is starting to hold water.

Second off, Luigi is normally labeled as an unlockable character in Super Smash Bros., so makes me question if that distinction is no longer in effect. Presuming it isn't a red herring, this gives me some confidence that down the line we might get other characters that get a similar promotion, on top of that list is Ness, Marth, and Captain Falcon.

However, third off, it makes me start to question if there will be unlockable characters at all in this game. Fighting games these days sometimes go for the route of having everyone right from the start, an example being Tekken Tag Tournament 2.

 

[Deathconsciousness]

**** luigi where geno @ niggа

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

However, third off, it makes me start to question if there will be unlockable characters at all in this game. Fighting games these days sometimes go for the route of having everyone right from the start, an example being Tekken Tag Tournament 2.

But shouldn't that then mean something like us getting a character reveal for every character in the game (for next months to come), along with the roster then becoming (perhaps) minimal?

I think we'll still have unlockables.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Luigi is my main in Smash lol so great

I wonder, it's obvious that they are even revealing him because of the whole Year of Luigi thing, but I wonder, are they going to treat the other OG unlockables the same (Captain Falcon, Ness and Jigglypuff)? I mean, I know this doesn't really affect them but **** they might as well make them starters at this point IMO at least

 

[augustoflores]

looking at luigi's nose up close like that... all i see are facets!

 

[Big-Cat]

Actually Tag 2 is not a pure example. On the PS360 versions, Unknown is an unlockable character by beating Arcade while eight other characters were time releases. However, everyone is available from the start in the WiiU version.

Since we're on the topic. What is everyone's thoughts on the entire roster being playable from the start?

 

[Starphoenix]

Looking at the character pages on the website it isn't hard to imagine we'll get four more characters by the end of the year -- there are four boxes left on the second page. Probably just coincidence, but kind of interesting considering the monthly drip we've been discussing.

 

[LiteralGrill]

Actually Tag 2 is not a pure example. On the PS360 versions, Unknown is an unlockable character by beating Arcade while eight other characters were time releases. However, everyone is available from the start in the WiiU version.

Since we're on the topic. What is everyone's thoughts on the entire roster being playable from the start?

I like unlocking at times, but would like both sides to have an option:

A one time code to unlock everyone for those who want to, and unlockable for those who don't.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

So who we might get in September then?

 

[TumblrFamous]

I wanna keep unlockables. It always gave me joy to unlock characters for the first time.

 

[N3ON]

Since we're on the topic. What is everyone's thoughts on the entire roster being playable from the start?

Personally I've always enjoyed playing through the game and unlocking the characters (not through SSE), hopefully with most of the requirements being even a little bit of a challenge. It's always felt more rewarding to me, and I'm guessing other people who don't follow the pre-release information/leaks/speculation are quite surprised and possibly elated to find hidden characters they weren't expecting, but from a pick-up-and-play multiplayer perspective, I can see why the entire roster being initially playable would be beneficial. I doubt Sakurai is going to go that route, even with revealing Luigi and everything, but I suppose it's a possibility. Not my choice though.

Looking at the character pages on the website it isn't hard to imagine we'll get four more characters by the end of the year -- there are four boxes left on the second page. Probably just coincidence, but kind of interesting considering the monthly drip we've been discussing.

I agree. My (mostly random) guesses for the remaining four are Diddy, a Pokemon character, Peach, and a newcomer. Though now I'm less sure on Peach... but I don't have any better ideas.
I'm guessing we won't see Yoshi until Nintendo starts heavily promoting whichever one of his two games releases first.