Super Smash Bros 4 (Wii U/3DS) Topic

[Rebellious Treecko]

Well, I mean, that's a given. White people

like Wii Fit Trainer

ruin everything.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I blame Wii Fit Trainer for all this pessimistic turn of events.

I remember when I we are the Skype call and we found out about Wii Fit Trainer... It sure was a buzz kill coming off of the reveal trailer LOL

 

[Arcadenik]

I wouldn't blame only her. She kind of showed how we really can't predict anything, and then AC kind of blew any solid evidence against characters (Like things Sakurai has said about specific characters) to smithereens. We looked over Villager because we were told to, and even then Sakurai was like "loljk"

Balloon Fighter, Excitebiker, Bubbles, Urban Champion, and Sukapon confirmed.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I remember when I we are the Skype call and we found out about Wii Fit Trainer... It sure was a buzz kill coming off of the reveal trailer LOL

Dat Manly reaction.

 

[Moon Monkey]

Dat Manly reaction.

Him and his bro's reaction was priceless

 

[Fatmanonice]

Like Wii Fit Trainer.

I think my eyes darted in 17 different directions trying to decide whether to rage or laugh like a baboon on acid the moment WFT was revealed. All in all, I'm glad I went with the later.

 

[Conviction]

Rage consumes us.

 

[Arcadenik]

None of you guys recorded yourselves reacting to E3 2013?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Likelihood, real or perceived, is not a valid reason to support a character, nor is it a valid excuse to disregard a character. You should know this as a Geno supporter.
Now, I understand the not using part, you have no emotional tie or foreknowledge of this character, but that is, in my opinion, a flimsy excuse to call a character 'meh'.
I would rather inform myself and invest interest into characters, if this is not done, all choices are 'meh'. I had the same feeling towards Paper Mario and Bowser Jr for the longest time, then I actually decided to go look at the potential competition, though I'd only played TTYD and almost never interacted with Bowser Jr, while I support neither and think their opportunity costs too high to be desirable, I can say with certitude that neither are 'meh' as I know the word.
While I agree most other Fire Emblem choices are 'meh', I would encourage you to seek it out to see for certain, I know that Anna is by far the least 'meh' Fire Emblem character that is possible for Smash (on possibility, she is the mascot after all).
Yes, I am attempting to gauge and am assuming what you have or have not done in regards to your knowledge of this character.

I wasn't calling Anna meh, I was calling Chrom Marth and Ike meh

 

[Comeback Kid]

When the Brawl reveal happened, I was incredibly hyped about the great new characters they were showing from Nintendo's history right at the starting line. The roster didn't disappoint.

Now I feel uneasy about the new Nintendo characters they are including due to the wacky nature and lack of personality of the two currently revealed. Is this the best they got?

When the guest character completely overshadows the main roster in the public's mind, that is a problem.

 

[Comeback Kid]

Double post.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Let's hope this month will reveal something that will shut up people.

 

[Comeback Kid]

Cause nothing causes more hype than people shutting up right?

Less talking about the roster means people are apathetic about it, and that isn't good for the game.

 

[Bowserlick]

I think anything that is shown will have the opposite effect of shutting people up.

 

[Oasis_S]

My favorite comment was when someone said Marth and Roy would be cut since they're clones. Both of them.

 

[FlareHabanero]

My favorite comment was when someone said Marth and Roy would be cut since they're clones. Both of them.

inb4yaoirelatedcomment.

 

[Jaedrik]

I wasn't calling Anna meh, I was calling Chrom Marth and Ike meh

Well, whether you believe it or not, Anna is a choice, I'm assuming you're going with the 'not a choice' because otherwise this statement would conflict with your earlier statement about all Fire Emblem choices being meh. :3

 

[ThatPersonGuy]

inb4yaoirelatedcomment.

Screw inb4s.

They'll cut each other, letting the dark emotions of life bleed through the cracks of their broken lives, before embracing each other in a long, drawn out make out scene.

 

[ThatPersonGuy]

When the Brawl reveal happened, I was incredibly hyped about the great new characters they were showing from Nintendo's history right at the starting line. The roster didn't disappoint.

Now I feel uneasy about the new Nintendo characters they are including due to the wacky nature and lack of personality of the two currently revealed. Is this the best they got?

When the guest character completely overshadows the main roster in the public's mind, that is a problem.

*cough cough* SNAKE *cough cough*

 

[augustoflores]

I went from shock and awe, facepalm, then acceptance.

 

[Comeback Kid]

*cough cough* SNAKE *cough cough*

From what I remember of that time period, people all over the internet were heavily debating whether Snake fit into the roster and the whole concept of guest characters and what constituted a good guest character, while also being really excited about the new characters in general.

Now it's sort of the opposite: people are really excited for the guest character without question while Wii Fit Trainer and to a lesser extent Villager are being debated as questionable additions.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

From what I remember of that time period, people all over the internet were heavily debating whether Snake fit into the roster and the whole concept of guest characters and what constituted a good guest character, while also being really excited about the new characters in general.

Now it's sort of the opposite: people are really excited for the guest character without question while Wii Fit Trainer and to a lesser extent Villager are being debated as questionable additions.

I question Wii Fit Trainer, but there is no reason why Villager should be questioned

 

[KingofPhantoms]

From what I remember of that time period, people all over the internet were heavily debating whether Snake fit into the roster and the whole concept of guest characters and what constituted a good guest character, while also being really excited about the new characters in general.

Now it's sort of the opposite: people are really excited for the guest character without question while Wii Fit Trainer and to a lesser extent Villager are being debated as questionable additions.

Villager isn't questionable.

He has a clever moveset using a number of items from his series, the fact at how he has never normally fought before is not enough to question him.

Wii Fit Trainer I understand though.

 

[Conviction]

There is a standard I hold the Smash roster to uphold. While WFT disappoints me, it doesn't ruin that standard; I'm still eager on a good roster. Certain core characters that make the roster good aren't going anywhere.

 

[Arcadenik]

When the Brawl reveal happened, I was incredibly hyped about the great new characters they were showing from Nintendo's history right at the starting line. The roster didn't disappoint.

Now I feel uneasy about the new Nintendo characters they are including due to the wacky nature and lack of personality of the two currently revealed. Is this the best they got?

When the guest character completely overshadows the main roster in the public's mind, that is a problem.

Remember what Sakurai said about the lack of character-driven (first-party) franchises after Pikmin in the All-Star Mode update in the Brawl Dojo? Well, Animal Crossing and Wii Fit aren't exactly character-driven franchises... I am guessing Sakurai decided to make do with casual (first-party) franchises that showed up after Pikmin's debut.

 

[BKupa666]

Yeah, there's a lot less "obvious" additions this time around then there were for Brawl. Heck, I'd argue that everybody but ROB, Wolf, and Pokemon Trainer were super obvious from the get-go.

I'd argue the same thing, but with Snake and ZSS as not-super obvious picks instead of Wolf and Pokemon Trainer, who were requested. This is why I'm confident the popular characters we were all predicting to show up at E3 are still in the game; barring a token number of shock picks, Sakurai has always listened to what we've wanted the most.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'd argue the same thing, but with Snake and ZSS as not-super obvious picks instead of Wolf and Pokemon Trainer, who were requested. This is why I'm confident the popular characters we were all predicting to show up at E3 are still in the game; barring a token number of shock picks, Sakurai has always listened to what we've wanted the most.

They may have been requested, but they weren't expected

 

[BKupa666]

They may have been requested, but they weren't expected

I'd chalk that up to miscalculation on our end, rather than Sakurai choosing them out of left field...not so much with Pokemon Trainer, but definitely with Wolf, whose fanbase was as large as Krystal's, but much less vocal. It's a similar sort of miscalculation that happened with Villager, in that, to everyone who wasn't jaded (in this case, by an encyclopedic knowledge of Sakurai's interviews), he was an obvious choice.

 

[Comeback Kid]

Villager is just an avatar you customize though, and a pretty plain one at that as depicted here.

If the Mii were a character with basically the same moveset from a series of party games, people would riot and gnash their teeth in rage.

But a blank avatar from a game with much more interesting animal villagers with great personalities is seen as 10,000 times better for some reason.

inb4Linkhasnopersonality

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

OMG KIRBY"S DREAMLAND 2 WAS FINALLY RELEASED IN THE ESHOP!!!

 

[Reznor]

OMG KIRBY"S DREAMLAND 2 WAS FINALLY RELEASED IN THE ESHOP!!!

3DS or Wii U?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

3DS

I've been waiting for it for a long while. It was one of my favorite games on the gameboy, even throughout high school

Of course we didn't have your fancy DS' when I was in high school or anything

 

[FlareHabanero]

OMG KIRBY"S DREAMLAND 2 WAS FINALLY RELEASED IN THE ESHOP!!!

HAHA TIME TO ANAL **** EVERYTHING WITH COO AND CUTTER!

 

[Arcadenik]

Villager is an avatar though, and a pretty plain one at that.

If the Mii were a character with basically the same moveset from a series of party games, people would riot and gnash their teeth in rage.

But a blank avatar from a game with much more interesting animal villagers with great personalities is seen as 10,000 times better for some reason.

inb4Linkhasnopersonality

Yes, you are right... Villager is more interesting because he is surrounded by furries... though I cannot blame Villager for having psychotic tendencies, given that his neighbors are all furries.

However, Mii can be interesting as well... Mii could fight using activities seen in Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Party, Wii Music, Pilotwings Resort, and even StreetPass Mii Plaza... basically anything that Villager and Wii Fit Trainer don't do.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I was extremely disappointed that coo and cutter was nerfed in Dreamland 3

 

[KingofPhantoms]

It's a shame some villains won't be seen in any future games of their series or possibily even Smash.

Giygas will probably never show up again.

Zero and Zero Two have been referenced multiple times though.

Maybe they might appear in Smash at some point, since Smash is usually rated T for teens. (Melee wasn't that violent aside from it being a fighting game though, Brawl had Snake. And Master Hand bleeding)

 

[Reznor]

3DS

I've been waiting for it for a long while. It was one of my favorite games on the gameboy, even throughout high school

Of course we didn't have your fancy DS' when I was in high school or anything

well I just ordered the Kirby Dream Land Collection for the Wii so i'll just play Dream Land 2 on the wii
the Kirby game I played the most as a kid was Crystal Shards mixing powers is one of the funnest things ever

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Ah yes, mixing powers in Kirby 64 is fun!

My favorite so far is the Flame Sword.

 

[Oasis_S]

It's a shame some villains won't be seen in any future games of their series or possibily even Smash.

Like K. Rool.

 

[Croph]

I wasn't calling Anna meh, I was calling Chrom Marth and Ike meh

And Roy is the opposite of "meh".

Which means Roy is "hem".

"For those whom I must hem, I will not lose!"

Y'know, in the beginning I've always wanted the story mode (or whatever) to be more darker in Smash 4... Um, kinda hard to explain, but with all the theories going on I kinda get vibes that Smash has some hidden layers of unintentional dark/physiological themes. But yeah, probably not going to happen now.