Super Mario RPG Mafia: Hilt lynched, Town wins!

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Scummy play =/= stupid play.

 

[Pierce7d]

@MOD

Request Vote Count

 

[Tin Man]

Alright, so what is the play today?

Also, I want clear stances from everyone where they stand on how they feel about Rajam, and how they feel about RR

For instance:
I think Rajam is town. I think it's extremely unlikely that he would post the correct color of blue even AFTER RR posted the incorrect color Green. Additionally, I don't think scum would make up such an elaborate role in the face of being lynched.

I have a null tell on Red Ryu, but I would feel comfortable lynching him, to confirm his information, and since we have few better plays.

I do not want to force any additional claims today.

I agree with this.

I want you dead because you exhibited the most amount of inactivity Day 1.

I'm curious, will this ever change? Will you ever reconsider your position on UTD Zack?

If we lynch RR and he flips scum, it means he didn't know towns color, and him forgetting it is all BS. This would then confirm Rajam, since he did know the color and scum players did not.

^ Yes, and the thing is Rajam picked the correct colour, so this point seems quite valid in that regard.

I did not. I'm trying to find out whether he thinks it's okay for players in his game to target colours. I can't imagine why any mod would, so if that's the case, and if he intentionally left the sample role PM out of the OP, then it's likely he made sure that scum knew the colour of town.

Assuming Red Ryu is scum and he did know the colour of town, How did he post the wrong colour?

Oh Pierces vote is a hammer.

Ok, I was telling the truth about my role, later gents.

I'm also pretty sure your at L-1. You probably already knew that and said this in desperation...

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

How am I at L-1?

I didn't see anyone who voted me unvote, Pierce should have been the hammer.

Tin Man digging deep.

 

[Tin Man]

Vote count:

UTD Zac - Red Ryu,
Red Ryu - Hilt, UTDZac, Raziek, ChiboSempai, Tin Man, Pierce,
Pado - Rajam,
Rajam - T-block, Omni,

Note Voting: Shaya, Pado, Krystedez,


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Friday, April 29th, at 3:00 p.m. EST

This should be correct. There have 6 people voting for Red Ryu. Not seven You are alive Red Ryu...


...=_=

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Oh wait 7 to lynch, I keep thinking it was 6 lol.

 

[Krystedez]

I unvoted, RR. A while ago.

 

[Raziek]

....why is Red Ryu still alive?

I highly disagree with a UTDZac policy lynch, specifically BECAUSE of what you stated, Omni. If he hasn't made any connections, we gain NOTHING from lynching him, just a role. No interactions or connections, nothing.

The fact that you even bring him up as an option this late in the Day bothers me.

I want Red Ryu lynched for a few main reasons:

1) His claimed role, if true, still provides us some information. In contrast, we gain nothing if we lynch Rajam and he was telling the truth.

2) The color thing, while not a hard-clear, is certainly not in his favor, and Rajam getting it correct makes me feel better about him.

3) While Rajam and Red Ryu were both playing somewhat anti-town early on, Rajam has cleaned up his act (although some has admittedly been OMGUS), while Red Ryu has not. Red Ryu has just posted some read-lists, pointed fingers constantly, self-voted 3 or 4 times, and has done nothing else to benefit Town.

I see very little reason why Red Ryu should still be alive.

 

[Krystedez]

Should no one else hammer at this point, RR could very well hammer himself unless someone unvotes again.

 

[Pierce7d]

I wouldn't mind. At this point, I am clearing anyone asking me to hammer.

 

[CT Chia]

aren't you already voting him?

 

[Raziek]

Someone please vote Red Ryu.

 

[UTDZac]

Doing some re-reads, I'm still baffled by this:

(Quoting Rajam's claim)

Wait a second, there is no sample role PM in this game, why did you post your color in blue? That's not the town color.

You know, Hilt really wants to shove a lynch down pretty fast, wonder why he is so sure I should die over Rajam or even if either of us should die, deadline is April 29th. Raziek bought it immediately, which is interesting to note.

Well I see it as this, Rajam is scum with a BS claim or he is town, I think with a role that odd he is town. So,

Unvote

With that said, Vote: Krystedez

Going with his insistence that Bowyer was in this game earlier as a scum slip along with the rest of his play.

How did it not occur to him to check his own role PM to confirm that wasn't the town color? Oh wait, it did occur to him... that's why he checked for the sample role PM (cause his own isn't town). Why check for a sample role PM instead of just relying on your own and saying you made a mistake right then and there?

Just... the way RR goes about this whole thing seems not right.

 

[Pierce7d]

I think RR is town, but I would much rather confirm it now than having it hanging over my head the whole game.

Someone hammer por favor.

 

[Tin Man]

Dice mean nothing when Ranmaru has them.

Unvote
Vote: Red Ryu

There is your hammer, day over.

Well it seems now's your chance.

 

[Tin Man]

unvote
Vote: Red Ryu

K, if it's what town wants.

I remembered you did this twice. Well third times a charm.

 

[T-block]

I can hammer if that's what town wants. Fine with the day ending now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

....why is Red Ryu still alive?

I highly disagree with a UTDZac policy lynch, specifically BECAUSE of what you stated, Omni. If he hasn't made any connections, we gain NOTHING from lynching him, just a role. No interactions or connections, nothing.

The fact that you even bring him up as an option this late in the Day bothers me.

I want Red Ryu lynched for a few main reasons:

1) His claimed role, if true, still provides us some information. In contrast, we gain nothing if we lynch Rajam and he was telling the truth.

2) The color thing, while not a hard-clear, is certainly not in his favor, and Rajam getting it correct makes me feel better about him.

3) While Rajam and Red Ryu were both playing somewhat anti-town early on, Rajam has cleaned up his act (although some has admittedly been OMGUS), while Red Ryu has not. Red Ryu has just posted some read-lists, pointed fingers constantly, self-voted 3 or 4 times, and has done nothing else to benefit Town.

I see very little reason why Red Ryu should still be alive.

This seems fishy, he seems to disregard Rajam as a viable lynch target.

~

Also no one hammer til UTD answer's Omni's question, I rather those get answered since UTD just outright ignored them.

 

[Pierce7d]

Good point

Unvote

Zac, if you would.

 

[Raziek]

I don't believe Rajam should be lynched over you under any circumstance. That's not to say he might not be a lynch target later, but I don't believe he should die today over you.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Doing some re-reads, I'm still baffled by this:





How did it not occur to him to check his own role PM to confirm that wasn't the town color? Oh wait, it did occur to him... that's why he checked for the sample role PM (cause his own isn't town). Why check for a sample role PM instead of just relying on your own and saying you made a mistake right then and there?

Just... the way RR goes about this whole thing seems not right.

For someone who has reread the game, you sure have been skimming, because I answered this ti two different people already, which if you were reading the game you have known by now.

 

[Raziek]

EBWOP: My post was @Red Ryu

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I don't believe Rajam should be lynched over you under any circumstance. That's not to say he might not be a lynch target later, but I don't believe he should die today over you.

So what makes him so much better, you seem to disregard his earlier play and passed off his OMGUS like it was nothing, why is that?

 

[Raziek]

Because he's done significantly more in the way of active defense than you have, he got the color correct, and I find his claim significantly more plausible.

In addition, the consequences of us being wrong about HIM are far worse than being wrong about you.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I would really like to see UTD lynched today over myself, I'm seeing a lot of uncommitted stances and bandwagon attitude for recent events.

 

[CT Chia]

We still have tomorrow and more to work with UTD
Your story is done RR, not to mention we confirm what you told us

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Because he's done significantly more in the way of active defense than you have, he got the color correct, and I find his claim significantly more plausible.

In addition, the consequences of us being wrong about HIM are far worse than being wrong about you.

Are they? He seems to be guess at a game which he needs to wait 7 days before he is guaranteed anything from what T-Block has said. And if he is scum, he may be buying time.

I suppose me dying has benefits at this point seeing as that would be confirmed info. Still I don't see how an information role is not plausible, they are a lot more common than you think, more common than a sort of fishman role that Rajam has.

You seem really sure he is telling the truth despite everything else, this really does bug me that your this certain he is not lying.

@Everyone: Scale 1-10, how sure are you that I am scum?

 

[T-block]

He's been more active in defense, but his defense has been terrible lol

In addition, the consequences of us being wrong about HIM are far worse than being wrong about you.

How so?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

We still have tomorrow and more to work with UTD
Your story is done RR, not to mention we confirm what you told us

Story ends when the hammer is down, I ain't goin' down til that happens.

@Omni: Vote UTD plz.

 

[Raziek]

How so?

Simple, if I'm wrong about Red Ryu being scum, then at least his role is no longer of use to us, and we confirm his information on a mislynch.

If we're wrong about Rajam, Town loses possible one-shot Doc/BP townie, who is of much more use to us.

 

[UTDZac]

Also no one hammer til UTD answer's Omni's question, I rather those get answered since UTD just outright ignored them.

For someone who has reread the game, you sure have been skimming, because I answered this ti two different people already, which if you were reading the game you have known by now.

I know that RR, and no I'm not ignoring Omni's questions. I was merely re-reading and that caught my eye again. I said it "still baffles" me. I plan on answering Omni's questions, but why are you expecting/forcing me to do so in my next post (not the next after this post, but the next after Omni's question post). You're basically saying I shouldn't post, even if I want to punt in for something, until I respond. Ridiculous.

 

[Pierce7d]

@RR

I don't think you're scum, but you're the best lynch candidate for today.
Zac, respond to questions, then I will revote.

 

[Tin Man]

I'm very sorry for the noobness

Whats OMGUS and EBWOP and mean? I tried to look at the guides but could figure out nothing =/.

Also, I assume breadcrumbs are peoples previous posts?

 

[Omni]

I think RR is town, but I would much rather confirm it now than having it hanging over my head the whole game.

Someone hammer por favor.

@RR

I don't think you're scum, but you're the best lynch candidate for today.
Zac, respond to questions, then I will revote.

Red flags. Stop repeating this, Pierce.

If you don't think he's scum you should -not- be voting him. That's such an easy cop out.

Where the hell is Shaya?

 

[Omni]

Also, Raziek, your thoughts on anyone who isn't Rajam, UTD, or RR, please.

 

[Raziek]

I'm very sorry for the noobness

Whats OMGUS and EBWOP and mean? I tried to look at the guides but could figure out nothing =/.

Also, I assume breadcrumbs are peoples previous posts?

OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck. Typical reaction for voting someone after they vote for you.

EBWOP: Edit by way of post, since you aren't allowed to edit posts in mafia.

Breadcrumbs are hidden hints to a role, usually. Used primarily to back up a role claim later in the game, to show that it wasn't made up on the spot.

Red flags. Stop repeating this, Pierce.

If you don't think he's scum you should -not- be voting him. That's such an easy cop out.

Where the hell is Shaya?

What? We need a lynch today, and I would much rather lynch an anti-Town player who would provide a lot of information, even if I'm not 100% sure he's scum.

 

[T-block]

I'm very sorry for the noobness

Whats OMGUS and EBWOP and mean? I tried to look at the guides but could figure out nothing =/.

Also, I assume breadcrumbs are peoples previous posts?

OMGUS stands for "Oh My God U Suck", which refers to the situation where player A votes and attacks player B just because B voted for A. See the way Rajam accused me and Pierce of being scum because we were on his wagon.

EBWOP stands for "Edit By Way Of Post". Since editing posts is not allowed in mafia, we edit by posting again.

Breadcrumbs are hints dropped in past posts, yeah. Usually they're not meant to be noticed until pointed out later, or a player re-reads with new information.

Red flags. Stop repeating this, Pierce.

If you don't think he's scum you should -not- be voting him. That's such an easy cop out.

Where the hell is Shaya?

Do you think Zac is scum, Omni?

You're contradicting yourself a lot.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I know that RR, and no I'm not ignoring Omni's questions. I was merely re-reading and that caught my eye again. I said it "still baffles" me. I plan on answering Omni's questions, but why are you expecting/forcing me to do so in my next post (not the next after this post, but the next after Omni's question post). You're basically saying I shouldn't post, even if I want to punt in for something, until I respond. Ridiculous.

Pretty much,

I want legit answers to those questions, chop chop.

~

And what Omni said, if you think I'm town, don't lynch me.

I think UTD is scum, hence me voting him.

 

[CT Chia]

Red flags. Stop repeating this, Pierce.

If you don't think he's scum you should -not- be voting him. That's such an easy cop out.

Where the hell is Shaya?

Here's the thing though...

By lynching an inactive we potentially destroy a PR
Pierce already said he doesn't want anyone else claiming, so keep that mindset of his in mind
If RR is not lying, then we lose a VT, hardly a loss compared to a PR
And on top of that we get info

At least this is what I think of what Pierce says he is the best lynch choice.

 

[Omni]

I highly disagree with a UTDZac policy lynch, specifically BECAUSE of what you stated, Omni. If he hasn't made any connections, we gain NOTHING from lynching him, just a role. No interactions or connections, nothing.

The fact that you even bring him up as an option this late in the Day bothers me.

Does it? It would bother me more if UTD or any inactive was NOT brought up at all all day. Why doesn't it bother you that barely anyone has made any votes or legitimate forced pressure outside of the common easy wagon RR/Rajam?