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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

Isaac: Venus Adept

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Hello everyone, is anybody willing to make a spooky version of the profile picture of the Twitter account for October. (Making Isaac's face like a skeleton is perfect enough :psycho:)

ISAAC SMASHBUS.JPG
 

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I think we can safely remove any October General Direct outcomes from the list. We just had a General Direct less than a month ago, which covered the rest of this year's titles and line-ups. I don't think there's enough change to warrant another General Direct so soon after we got information for all of these, for the most part, 2019 games.
Actually we can't remove it as a possibility. There have been various cases where a General Direct is followed by another one

  • November 2012 and December 2012
  • December 2012 and January 2013
  • January 2013 and February 2013
  • April 2013 and May 2013
  • May 2013 and June 2013
  • June 2013 and July 2013
  • July 2013 and August 2013
  • October 2013 and November 2013
  • November 2013 and December 2013

While they are indeed old and no longer the typical norm, we can't deny that these occasions happened and frequently. We have to assume that Nintendo can do it again. Because for two whole years they did. Who is to say they can't deal a double whammy once again? There are really only three months left in the year. And one of them belongs to a Smash Direct.
 
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Oh hell no, he was plague on Xenoblade Chronicles X' soundtrack, he's not bad but he's also a one trick pony!
Uh, excuse me. Bad opinions are not allowed here.

Kidding, though seriously, I think Xenoblade X's soundtrack is one of it's shining features. I've seen people make points for it's world, characters, graphics, structure, plot, formatting, pacing, and more but most people universally agree that the soundtrack was not one of the many problems with that game. I do love Xenoblade X even with all it's flaws it's a damn good game.

Plus, Xenoblade X's soundtrack was obviously inspired by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and that's always a good thing because RHCP is ****ing fire imo.
 

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but most people universally agree that the soundtrack was not one of the many problems with that game.
Funny because it's the opposite for me, all the people I've talked to agreed that Sawano should not come back again. Now mind you, there are absolute gems in the soundtrack, Noctilum being one of my all time favorites tracks over the 3 xenoblade games, but if you watched some anime he worked on, for every 10/10 track there are in the game at least 5 4/10 ones come through, especially since he's worse than Sakuraba when it comes to making music that ressemble your past work, same song structure, same exact instruments, same singers.

I guess there's bit of bias because I'm familiar with his music already (also the fact that the game had awful sound design). That's why I want a XCX2 so bad lol, there's gigantic room for improvement
 
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I liked his work on Seraph of the End (and damn he did blue exorcist and kill la kill too huh)

Though it's true. His style is pretty recognizable, but I assume we are all fans of Motoi Sakuraba here... soo :b
 

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Have we ever gotten any sort of confirmation assist trophies were cut due to 3DS limitations? I've heard that floating around for a while now, but haven't ever seen much about it to confirm this idea.
It's speculation based on Sakurai's smash 4 interviews. Ice Climbers worked on the Switch, but didn't on 3ds, roster must remain the same so they're cut completely. Pokemon Trainer's transformation gimmick was a problem, cut and solo charizard. Lucas' final smash wasn't compatible with the 3ds so he's put on the chopping block.

Lucas was always on those 'Top to be cut' lists cause the current smash hivemind hated clones and he was unnecessary and then when he was actually cut, that mindset came out fool force, Lucas was cut cause he was an unnecessary 'clone' and Sakurai realized this and Ness was the only rep needed. Then when Lucas is brought back as DLC Sakurai goes into detail about how they had to adjust Lucas' final smash to make him work on the 3ds.

If Sakurai cut playable characters (even a melee vet like Ice Climbers) because they didn't work on the 3ds, why would it be any stranger for him to drop an assist trophy that causes problems.

I mean unless people want to think that Isaac's assist was cut cause he's irrelevant and Nintendo hates Golden Sun, it just seems more logical given what he's said about the playable characters.

Edit: Forgot to mention how an additional song from Dark Dawn was added to 4, and adding a song to cut that series assist doesn't make much sense unless the assist was a problem.
 
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Xenoblade Chronicles X admittedly took some weird directions when it came to some of its songs and vocals. When XCX had good music though, it was REALLY good:

 
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I saw someone on the golden sun reddit mention a golden sun anime as a possible means of reviving the series. I don't think it would unless it was exceptionally well made and grabbed the attention of weebs for the season it releases. That does give me a good excuse to do this though:
Top 5 anime:
Trigun
Cowboy Bebop
FMA:B
HXH 2011
Made in Abyss
 

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I saw someone on the golden sun reddit mention a golden sun anime as a possible means of reviving the series. I don't think it would unless it was exceptionally well made and grabbed the attention of weebs for the season it releases. That does give me a good excuse to do this though:
Top 5 anime:
Trigun
Cowboy Bebop
FMA:B
HXH 2011
Made in Abyss
I can see it happening and not happening. I can see it happening because a some dead games some how received anime years later. Tower of Druaga got one...

Of course, Nintendo used to release anime for their games all the time, even F-Zero and Animal Crossing, but it hasn't really lately aside from Pokemon. And series perfect for it haven't gotten any (Kid Icarus, Fire Emblem). If GS gets an anime then they have to really capture the sense of adventure it had.

Though it seems video game movies are on the rise again: Mario, Metal Gear, Sonic, Pokemon, and Monster Hunter (wtf and TI is in it). Hopefully they're not terrible, 99% of video game and anime live action movies are terrible or "too bad its good"

mine:
Hajime No Ippo
Kaiji
Votoms
G Gundam
Katanagatari
 
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I saw someone on the golden sun reddit mention a golden sun anime as a possible means of reviving the series. I don't think it would unless it was exceptionally well made and grabbed the attention of weebs for the season it releases. That does give me a good excuse to do this though:
Top 5 anime:
Trigun
Cowboy Bebop
FMA:B
HXH 2011
Made in Abyss
If anything I could see an anime being developed after the series popularity increases, since thats how they usually create a anime based on video games.

Also fmab and hxh are my top 2
 
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Oh boy I was wanting some crack-pot theories to spice up my day

At this point it is clear they are just using what they have to make a nice neatened layout. I doubt we'll see the final result until the game's release
And at this point I think that they already know what are they doing... It's possible they're playing with this kind of stuff just to keep people entertained and generate hype (MORE)...

But yeah, at least there's something new in the room internet can discuss, these past days were a little boring.
 

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Aaand...we start again with the Box theory V2....

https://nintendosoup.com/japan-first-look-at-the-super-smash-bros-ultimate-download-card/

Not again please.... I thought this was (at least in part) settled..
Well, with the card being out and already sold in Japan, it's the final product and thus only shows the characters revealed so far. So it really changes nothing of what's still to come.

Though conveniently it does have two "empty" slots so the box theory will likely kick off again even if there isn't much correlation.
 

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The Cardists have risen from the ashes of the Boxists. Can't wait to get a whole bunch of tweets telling me to expect two newcomers only.
 

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And at this point I think that they already know what are they doing... It's possible they're playing with this kind of stuff just to keep people entertained and generate hype (MORE)...

But yeah, at least there's something new in the room internet can discuss, these past days were a little boring.
Tell you what, let's make our own crackpot theory.

Seeing as how everyone "insists" the box theory is all about a grid, let's look at all numbers the final count could be just based on which numbers can be easily divided. Seeing as how the box and card art MUST have everything line up evenly in a row

  • 72 - 2x36, 3x24, 4x18, 6x12, 8x9
  • 74 - 2x37
  • 75 - 3x25, 5x15
  • 76 - 2x38, 4x19
  • 77 - 7x11
  • 78 - 2x39, 3x26, 6x13
  • 80 - 2x40, 4x20, 5x16, 8x10

72 isn't the only number out there. 72, 75, 77, 78 and 80 all look like nice options. So "clearly" the final count must be one of those numbers

And because it all can be displayed on a grid evenly it must be true ;)
 

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Aaand...we start again with the Box theory V2....

https://nintendosoup.com/japan-first-look-at-the-super-smash-bros-ultimate-download-card/

Not again please.... I thought this was (at least in part) settled..
The fact that it's aligned in the center tells me that it's just to be presentable and isn't indicative of a final tally. In spite of that, we're going to have "theorists" come out and claim to know everything because, "obviously these things can't change and Sakurai would absolutely let this cat out of the bag early!".

What you see isn't always what you're going to get.
 

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From the Elma thread:

"So there is a playlist of character trailers on YouTube for the Smash website. 10 days before the Smash Direct in August the playlist was updated. The same thing happened before the General Direct in September and it apparently happened again 2 days ago!


Nothing appears to have been added, but this is exactly what happened before other character reveals. Probably preparing the playlist for the new character trailer(s)."
 

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From the Elma thread:

"So there is a playlist of character trailers on YouTube for the Smash website. 10 days before the Smash Direct in August the playlist was updated. The same thing happened before the General Direct in September and it apparently happened again 2 days ago!


Nothing appears to have been added, but this is exactly what happened before other character reveals. Probably preparing the playlist for the new character trailer(s)."
Oh cool, and there goes my hype, piercing the heavens with its drill.
 
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From the Elma thread:

"So there is a playlist of character trailers on YouTube for the Smash website. 10 days before the Smash Direct in August the playlist was updated. The same thing happened before the General Direct in September and it apparently happened again 2 days ago!


Nothing appears to have been added, but this is exactly what happened before other character reveals. Probably preparing the playlist for the new character trailer(s)."
Good to know. Hopefully we won't be waiting much longer for our next reveal.
 

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From the Elma thread:

"So there is a playlist of character trailers on YouTube for the Smash website. 10 days before the Smash Direct in August the playlist was updated. The same thing happened before the General Direct in September and it apparently happened again 2 days ago!


Nothing appears to have been added, but this is exactly what happened before other character reveals. Probably preparing the playlist for the new character trailer(s)."
How does one find this playlist? On YouTube, clicking a character vid's channel name only flings you to Nintendo's channel.
 
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From the Elma thread:

"So there is a playlist of character trailers on YouTube for the Smash website. 10 days before the Smash Direct in August the playlist was updated. The same thing happened before the General Direct in September and it apparently happened again 2 days ago!


Nothing appears to have been added, but this is exactly what happened before other character reveals. Probably preparing the playlist for the new character trailer(s)."
Does anybody know how many days before the September direct (6th or 13th) the playlist was updated? Was it also 10 days?
 

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So let me get this straight. Box theorists are all over this Card Theory. Meanwhile, the Smash YT Newcomer Trailers were updated. Just like before for preparation of a Direct coming up.
This is going to be one interesting week.
 
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