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Sunrise, Sunset - Isaac for Smash Ultimate #GoldenSunday

KMDP

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Can someone help me translate these words?

First of all I want to warn you that all this can be false, an old friend who already gave me game information told me all this, but he already told lies and also revealed many true things.
So please take all this with a big grain of salt.


He gave me some words indicating characters that are going to be playable in Smash Ultimate. He warned me that I could post all this somewhere.

"Peramelemorphia"
"Agamidae"
"Erinaceinae"
"Virtual Lacertilia"
"Demon Felis"
"Fire Karategi"
"Gấu"
"Extremitats"
"Suryaprabha"
"Stalflute"
"Star Nukke"
"Tiikeri Taistelija"
"Condemn Destruction"
"Fool Guy"
"Artis"


That's all he gave me.
Sorry for any problems.
Lacertilia is Latin for "Lizard", so that's either Agumon or Gex (I'd put money on Agumon).

Stalflute is Skull Kid; his Japanese name is "Stalchild" and he plays a flute in Ocarina of Time.

Demon Felis is probably Jibanyan (Felis = Cat, Jibanyan is a Spirit Cat).
 

LegendOfDragoon

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Lacertilia is Latin for "Lizard", so that's either Agumon or Gex (I'd put money on Agumon).

Stalflute is Skull Kid; his Japanese name is "Stalchild" and he plays a flute in Ocarina of Time.

Demon Felis is probably Jibanyan (Felis = Cat, Jibanyan is a Spirit Cat).
Artis could be Adeline I suppose
 

Sabrewulf238

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Sakurai actually said he'd reveal the design of every fighter before launch.
That's something I find very interesting too, the wording really stood out to me when I heard it. (I've mentioned it a few times)

It could be reading too much into it but I do think it's possible that Sakurai might reveal his plans for dlc characters before release.

I'd be a bit pissed if Sakurai was planning DLC before release.
Personally I wouldn't care, it's not like it would be finished DLC that they're withholding. It would literally just be Sakurai telling us in advance what he plans to do.

If this is something he plans to do, they would probably have finished most of the design work for these characters before release but probably won't have much programming work done for them.

So Sakurai may be able to reveal the renders for these characters even though they probably haven't been implemented in the game yet.

Alternatively they might have models created for them and then do something similar to how they revealed Mewtwo as DLC for the last game.
 
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jweb23

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I just wanted to give my two cents of the remaining possible newcomers.

First off I was a big detractor against Vergben but I remember him/her stating they were sure Isabelle wasn't an echo fighter so now I have to take everything Verg has stated about Smash as the most possible things we are getting for Ultimate. However we have to keep in mind that Verg does NOT know everything because he had no idea about King K Rool, Richter, Chrom or Dark Samus. So there is a high possibility that there are more character other than the ones Verg has mentioned!

Personally I believe we have somewhere around 6-8 newcomers left, this includes uniques and echoes. With the current information we have such as interviews from Sakurai as well as what most of the fanbase believes are hints from the man himself plus how Isabelle plays, I have to say these are the most likely characters to become newcomers:

Ken
A Pokemon
A Square Enix rep
A Bandai Namco rep
Isaac
Tails or Shadow (maybe both)
Impa or Skull Kid (maybe both)
A Rhythm Heaven rep
Dixie Kong
Paper Mario
Elma
A Random Character Japan Loves

I would be SHOCKED if we get a new character not mentioned in this list, I don't think I missed any popular first party characters, feel free to correct me if I did. (Banjo and Shantae are discussed below)

The reason I haven't mentioned any other third party characters is due to the interview where Sakurai explained how tough it is to get those characters as well as the licensing prices for them so it make much more sense to me for them to be DLC as us paying extra for them would help offset the licensing fees for Nintendo so there is still hope for the Banjo and Shantae fans. I do expect something more from Bandai Namco because all the other third parties have given Smash more so far except Square Enix and them.

Bayonetta got an Assist Trophy
Capcom has given more Megaman and Street Fighter music, Rathalos AT/Boss, Zero AT as well as Protoman and Bass in Megaman's Final Smash. Possibly Ken as a playable character
Konami has given Snake back, tons of Castlevania stuff and Bomber Man as an AT
Sonic has more music and a Knuckles AT. Possibly Tails or Shadow as playable characters.
Still waiting for something more from SE and BN.

We still have a LOT of time left until release considering they started announcing characters 3 months ago! No need to panic at all for now.
 

XenoWarriorX

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Can someone help me translate these words?

First of all I want to warn you that all this can be false, an old friend who already gave me game information told me all this, but he already told lies and also revealed many true things.
So please take all this with a big grain of salt.


He gave me some words indicating characters that are going to be playable in Smash Ultimate. He warned me that I could post all this somewhere.

"Peramelemorphia"
"Agamidae"
"Erinaceinae"
"Virtual Lacertilia"
"Demon Felis"
"Fire Karategi"
"Gấu"
"Extremitats"
"Suryaprabha"
"Stalflute"
"Star Nukke"
"Tiikeri Taistelija"
"Condemn Destruction"
"Fool Guy"
"Artis"


That's all he gave me.
Sorry for any problems.

1. Bandicoot (Crash)
2. Dragon Lizard (Spyro)
3. Hedgehog (Shadow)
4. Virtual Lizard (Gex????)
5. Fire Karate (Ken?)
6. Bear (Banjo)
7. Extremity (ARMS)
8. Suryaprabha: A goddess who represents Sunlight. (Isaac)
9. Skull Kid
10. Star Doll (Geno)
11. Tiger Fighter (Incenaroar)
12. Condemn Destruction (????)
13. Fool Guy (BDD??)
14. Artist (Okami)

Also, this is this yours? Because i found it here with a simple google search.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77006434

Honestly, a lot of this seems pretty unbelievable.


Personally I wouldn't care, it's not like it would be finished DLC that they're withholding. It would literally just be Sakurai telling us in advance what he plans to do.

If this is something he plans to do, they would probably have finished most of the design work for these characters before release but probably won't have much programming work done for them.

So Sakurai may be able to reveal the renders for these characters even though they probably haven't been implemented in the game yet.

Alternatively they might have models created for them and then do something similar to how they revealed Mewtwo as DLC for the last game.
Well, my stance is really never gonna change. No developer should ever plan DLC when working on the base game. It just screams greed.
 
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Graizen

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1. Bandicoot (Crash)
2. Dragon Lizard (Spyro)
3. Hedgehog (Shadow)
4. Virtual Lizard (Gex????)
5. Fire Karate (Incenroar?)
6. Bear (Banjo)
7. Extremity (ARMS)
8. Suryaprabha: A goddess who represents Sunlight. (Isaac)
9. Skull Kid
10. Star Doll (Geno)
11. Tiger Fighter (Ken or Chun-Li???)
12. Condemn Destruction (????)
13. Fool Guy (BDD??)
14. Artist (???)

Also, this is this yours? Because i found it here with a simple google search.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77006434

Honestly, a lot of this seems pretty unbelievable.
Yes its me!
I posted it there as well.
 

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KMDP

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That's something I find very interesting too, the wording really stood out to me when I heard it. (I've mentioned it a few times)

It could be reading too much into it but I do think it's possible that Sakurai might reveal his plans for dlc characters before release.
It would make some amount of sense, a lot of people complain that Fighting Game Season Passes are a bit of a crapshoot; you don't know which characters you're buying until they're revealed.

Would Sakurai reveal every DLC character who'll be coming to solve this? Maybe, but I doubt it.
 

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I just wanted to give my two cents of the remaining possible newcomers.

First off I was a big detractor against Vergben but I remember him/her stating they were sure Isabelle wasn't an echo fighter so now I have to take everything Verg has stated about Smash as the most possible things we are getting for Ultimate. However we have to keep in mind that Verg does NOT know everything because he had no idea about King K Rool, Richter, Chrom or Dark Samus. So there is a high possibility that there are more character other than the ones Verg has mentioned!

Personally I believe we have somewhere around 6-8 newcomers left, this includes uniques and echoes. With the current information we have such as interviews from Sakurai as well as what most of the fanbase believes are hints from the man himself plus how Isabelle plays, I have to say these are the most likely characters to become newcomers:

Ken
A Pokemon
A Square Enix rep
A Bandai Namco rep
Isaac
Tails or Shadow (maybe both)
Impa or Skull Kid (maybe both)
A Rhythm Heaven rep
Dixie Kong
Paper Mario
Elma
A Random Character Japan Loves

I would be SHOCKED if we get a new character not mentioned in this list, I don't think I missed any popular first party characters, feel free to correct me if I did. (Banjo and Shantae are discussed below)

The reason I haven't mentioned any other third party characters is due to the interview where Sakurai explained how tough it is to get those characters as well as the licensing prices for them so it make much more sense to me for them to be DLC as us paying extra for them would help offset the licensing fees for Nintendo so there is still hope for the Banjo and Shantae fans. I do expect something more from Bandai Namco because all the other third parties have given Smash more so far except Square Enix and them.

Bayonetta got an Assist Trophy
Capcom has given more Megaman and Street Fighter music, Rathalos AT/Boss, Zero AT as well as Protoman and Bass in Megaman's Final Smash. Possibly Ken as a playable character
Konami has given Snake back, tons of Castlevania stuff and Bomber Man as an AT
Sonic has more music and a Knuckles AT. Possibly Tails or Shadow as playable characters.
Still waiting for something more from SE and BN.

We still have a LOT of time left until release considering they started announcing characters 3 months ago! No need to panic at all for now.
Unlikly Echos, but maybe we'll be surprised

Funkey Kong (Donky Kong)
Birdo (Yoshi)
Peppy/Slippy (Fox/Falco)
Ninten (Ness)
Black Shadow (Captain Falcon)
Morpho Knight/Galacta Knight (Meta Knight)
Black Knight (Ike)
Tails instead of Shadow (Sonic) I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes DLC
Louie (Olimar)
Doc Louis (Little Mac)
Zack Fair (Cloud Strife)
Jeanne (Bayo)

I wouldn't be surprised if they reveal these characters as DLC down the line. I definately do not think they'll be in base game.
But maybe Sakarai will surprise us.
 

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Well, my stance is really never gonna change. No developer should ever plan DLC when working on the base game. It just screams greed.
Do you really believe that Sakurai would be doing it for that reason?

It doesn't matter what it "screams", do you think that's why he'd be doing it?
 

XenoWarriorX

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Question:
What in the past has this source told you about the game that was eventually confirmed or deconfirmed?
That's what i want to know. Literally mostly german. But a lot of these guesses seem like they're throwing stuff at the wall.

And it's pretty broad to simply say that they know something of the game.

Do you really believe that Sakurai would be doing it for that reason?

It doesn't matter what it "screams", do you think that's why he'd be doing it?
Yes.

Or simply a request by Nintendo.

I don't like this kind of DLC implementation when anyone does it. Period.
 
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The last newcomers I think will be in the base roster Dixie Kong Incinroar Skull Kid Chorus Kids Isaac Geno and Banjo Kazooie.
 

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Unlikly Echos, but maybe we'll be surprised

Funkey Kong (Donky Kong)
Birdo (Yoshi)
Peppy/Slippy (Fox/Falco)
Ninten (Ness)
Black Shadow (Captain Falcon)
Morpho Knight/Galacta Knight (Meta Knight)
Black Knight (Ike)
Tails instead of Shadow (Sonic) I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes DLC
Louie (Olimar)
Doc Louis (Little Mac)
Zack Fair (Cloud Strife)
Jeanne (Bayo)

I wouldn't be surprised if they reveal these characters as DLC down the line. I definately do not think they'll be in base game.
But maybe Sakarai will surprise us.
I think Black Shadow, Ninten, and possibly Louie will be (late-in-development?) Echoes. Throw a bone to the franchises that have little chance of ever getting newcomers.
 

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I’d personally be pumped if Sakurai told us what his DLC plans were. I have zero issue with a developer planning things out. There’s a finite amount of time to work on a game and it makes sense to have an idea or plans on what you want to do with it afterwards. I don’t consider it greedy unless theyjold off completed content for DLC.
 

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"Suryaprabha" could be Amaterasu from Okami instead of "Artis", as she's the goddess of the sun.

"Fool Guy" could be Joker from Persona 5, as protagonists from 3 onwards have the Fool Arcana.
 

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Question:
What in the past has this source told you about the game that was eventually confirmed or deconfirmed?

Well he lied about some Marvel vs Capcom I. characters.

But he actualy got all the Smash 4 DLC characters, even Bayonetta.
 

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I’d personally be pumped if Sakurai told us what his DLC plans were. I have zero issue with a developer planning things out. There’s a finite amount of time to work on a game and it makes sense to have an idea or plans on what you want to do with it afterwards. I don’t consider it greedy unless theyjold off completed content for DLC.
Maybe that's how YOU see it, but telling me the DLC plans before the game releases just tells me "Hey, uh, we weren't focusing primarily on the baseline as we were planning DLC too."

Cmon. Is there really something wrong with putting all focus on the game foremost, but focusing on DLC later? Have we really abandoned the ideal way of making the game as good as it can be?
 

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Birdo (Yoshi)
I see a lot of people say this, but how could Birdo possible be a Yoshi echo? Yoshi uses his long tongue, Birdo doesn't have a tongue. Yoshi lays eggs after eating something, Birdo shoots infinite eggs out of her mouth. Yoshi also uses his tail, which Birdo doesn't have.
 
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Why are a lot of people seemingly so sure on B&K being in the base game?

They're a third party character, they would be much pricier to put in the game than a 1st party character.

In my opinion, no-one should be super-sure that a third-party character, especially a unique fighter, is going to be in the game unless they have extremely reliable sources.
 

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Maybe that's how YOU see it, but telling me the DLC plans before the game releases just tells me "Hey, uh, we weren't focusing primarily on the baseline as we were planning DLC too."

Cmon. Is there really something wrong with putting all focus on the game foremost, but focusing on DLC later? Have we really abandoned the ideal way of making the game as good as it can be?
Sorry but we aren’t going to agree on this. I would personally rather know what’s coming and that it comes within 6 month rather than a year. I do not believe that simply planning the intended content for dlc would be overly taxing resource wise. You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, but I don’t feel that way.
 

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Can someone help me translate these words?

First of all I want to warn you that all this can be false, an old friend who already gave me game information told me all this, but he already told lies and also revealed many true things.
So please take all this with a big grain of salt.


He gave me some words indicating characters that are going to be playable in Smash Ultimate. He warned me that I could post all this somewhere.

"Peramelemorphia"
"Agamidae"
"Erinaceinae"
"Virtual Lacertilia"
"Demon Felis"
"Fire Karategi"
"Gấu"
"Extremitats"
"Suryaprabha"
"Stalflute"
"Star Nukke"
"Tiikeri Taistelija"
"Condemn Destruction"
"Fool Guy"
"Artis"


That's all he gave me.
Sorry for any problems.
It's professor Layton ... because this **** is seriously puzzling :drshrug:
 

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Sorry but we aren’t going to agree on this. I would personally rather know what’s coming and that it comes within 6 month rather than a year. I do not believe that simply planning the intended content for dlc would be overly taxing resource wise. You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, but I don’t feel that way.
Well, i certainly wouldn't want a good developer planning DLC during the development of a big game like Smash Bros.

And no it's not a overall effort wasting task to plan DLC, but there's an ethical consequence to planning DLC for content that hasn't been released yet. Heck, i certainly felt that the Season pass for XB2 was overall a "meh" idea.


And of course you were gonna disagree with me. I wasn't EXPECTING you to agree with me.
 
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Why are a lot of people seemingly so sure on B&K being in the base game?

They're a third party character, they would be much pricier to put in the game than a 1st party character.

In my opinion, no-one should be super-sure that a third-party character, especially a unique fighter, is going to be in the game unless they have extremely reliable sources.
Yeah, I agree. I feel like Simon and Richter were the big 3rd party blowouts. At that point the only 3rd party character that I feel could make it in is Geno. Especially with Square and Nintendo having a good relationship right now.

That being said I could absolutely see B&K being DLC.
 

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No matter what, don't let the GS hype die. Isaac could still be in DLC and promoting GS Switch

Remember, Smash is one thing, our hype for Isaac is another!

Don't let the sunset for good. Regardless of the Smash Outcome
 

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Wrecking Crew Rep would be the most bizarre thing ever.
Not really, there is only Foreman Spike who can fit that. No one else in the two WC games represents the frustration of somebody wrecking things before you do and take the credit for a bigger paycheck.

It's not like they'd make you fight Gotchawrench or Eggplant Man beyond being regular enemies, really. :p
 

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Wrecking Crew Rep would be the most bizarre thing ever.
I mean, Wrecking Crew has had its trademark renewed recently by Nintendo along with GS and RH, so... who knows. I think Foreman Spike could easily be the retro rep in this game.

Edit: spelling error
 
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Wasn't that the game which got new copyright alongside GS and R Heaven?
Yes, but coming out in 1998 with a renewal in 2008, it was due for renewal again anyway, as was 2008's Mario Sluggers. Rhythm Heaven it depends, it could be either due now or 2021/
 

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Wrecking Crew Rep would be the most bizarre thing ever.
Lol more bizarre than Ice Climbers and Pit before Uprising came out?

The answer is yes if it’s Foreman Spike. But I must admit I kinda like the prospect.

@Gioka It is good to keep positivism buuut let's remember that we still have almost 3 months from launch so let's focus on Isaac for base roster, showing our support and keep making noise just how we did on the day of the direct
No doubt, but with over 400 pages, if we don’t change the subject every now and then we’ll start retreading old ground and that ends up getting stale.
 
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It is good to keep positivism buuut let's remember that we still have almost 3 months from launch so let's focus on Isaac for base roster, showing our support and keep making noise just how we did on the day of the direct
 

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Wasn't that the game which got new copyright alongside GS and R Heaven?
Not really, there is only Foreman Spike who can fit that. No one else in the two WC games represents the frustration of somebody wrecking things before you do and take the credit for a bigger paycheck.

It's not like they'd make you fight Gotchawrench or Eggplant Man beyond being regular enemies, really. :p
I mean, Wrecking Crew has had its trademark renewed recently by Nintendo along with GS and RH, so... who knows. I think Foreman Spike could easily be the retro rep in this game.

Edit: spelling error
Lol more bizarre than Ice Climbers and Pit before Uprising came out?

The answer is yes if it’s Foreman Spike. But I must admit I kinda like the prospect.

Foreman spike would be bizarre simply because his character design looks weird to me. But that's about it. *I shouldn't have put "most bizaree thing ever"*

But also could be a possibility of it being related to the wrecking crew stage, so i can't come to a standard conclusion.
 
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