stupidest nerf?

[25%Cotton]

this isn't "biggest nerf" or "smallest nerf"... it's "stupidest nerf". just remember that.

anyway, i think it's gotta be samus. i mean she wasn't even amazing to begin with. her melee self would fit very perfectly in brawl how it is, but they major-nerfed her to the point where it's actually easier to kill people using zamus, who according to sakurai is supposed to be WORSE at this sort of thing.

i think jiggs is a deserving runner-up. i mean, a BIT of a nerf may have been necessary, but they totally removed almost all of his/her weirdly long range and priority, as well as sucking out power and adding more lag. ok, so jiggs was awkwardly good at range, priority, and power... but that means you're either supposed to dock each category a TINY BIT or dock one or two categories a decent but not too significant amount... instead, they docked every category as if it were the only category being docked (i hope you can understand my confusing words )

 

[OmegaXXII]

well I kinda get what you mean about Jiggs since her/his? range wasn't as good as it was, as for stupidest i'd have to say Fox

 

[RupeeClock]

I would say the stupidest nerf was Captain Falcon's knee.

A famous attack reduced in power? Why? That was his signature killing move.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Shiek's fair. It was pretty much her only dependable killing move in Melee but she at least had her insane combo abilities. Then there's Brawl...

 

[AquaTech]

Captain Falcon's nerf frustrates me the most. I can understand knocking him down a notch, but my gosh, he went from being a top 6 character, to unusable.

 

[PCHU]

Fox's reflector.
They think that making it quick to do and quick to stop means that they can take away it's power.
That sucks so hard.
Fox's side smash.
It looks a bit shorter.

I guess Ganon's is the stupidest one of all.
Look at his run now.
What the heck crawled up his butt to make him run like that?

 

[Nowaytoeatatater]

What the heck crawled up his butt to make him run like that?

Obligatory "your mom".

Anyway, look at who my main is and find out.

 

[Zodiac]

Stupidist nerf... that would be Brawl.

Fox's reflector.
They think that making it quick to do and quick to stop means that they can take away it's power.
That sucks so hard.
Fox's side smash.
It looks a bit shorter.

I guess Ganon's is the stupidest one of all.
Look at his run now.
What the heck crawled up his butt to make him run like that?

There is a brawl waveshine that works as well as melee's

 

[UltiMario]

Peach's Double Jump.
Yoshi's up-B has more distance than it, pathetic.
Peach doesnt deserve such a thing

 

[MuraRengan]

Captain Falcon.

 

[kr3wman]

Captain Falcon.

Spoiler

10 chars...

 

[everlasting yayuhzz]

Captain mother ****ing Falcon isn't in Brawl. That is an impostor. The real Falcon is sitting back in Melee chillin', that Falcon is Rick Wheeler.

 

[Tristan_win]

Captain Falcon.

Thread closed.

 

[ZodiakLucien]

dash dancing

 

[Wander]

Jigglypuff. She wasn't incredibly broken anyway, she was very weak and easily killable by the top characters in Melee, and now all her comboing and killing and range and whatnot are gone.

 

[Love And Lament]

Nerfing every high tier character but Marth. >_<

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

Stupidest nerf had to be Link. He was fine in Melee, not broken, and not too bad. Why did they nerf him?

Jiggly and Falcon's nerfs were mostly due to the physics changing in combination with some general down toning of their good moves. If Brawl had Melee's physics, Jiggly and Falcon would be playable even with the nerfs. (not good, just playable)

 

[everlasting yayuhzz]

Stupidest nerf had to be Link. He was fine in Melee, not broken, and not too bad. Why did they nerf him?

Jiggly and Falcon's nerfs were mostly due to the physics changing in combination with some general down toning of their good moves. If Brawl had Melee's physics, Jiggly and Falcon would be playable even with the nerfs. (not good, just playable)

Falcon isn't in this game, what are you guys talking about?

 

[MojoMan]

Who couldn't say Falcon. RICK WHEELER IS A LOSER.

 

[SirKibble]

Shiek. She's all but useless now... When I played Zelda/Shiek in Melee, it was almost always Shiek. Tried that in Brawl... I learned how to play Zelda pretty quick...

 

[cj.Shark]

uh hello jigglypuff wasnt nerfed(cept rest which gained a bit more range and damage % but w/e that isnt what rest was about -_-). everyone else was buffed. yeah you heard me.
In melee is was different because jigglypuff has
1. a ungodly recovery. now anyone can recover..with just one upB let alone jumps
2. aerial movement. Jigglys air game was crazy. she could move in and out of attacks and cancel her momentum at anytime. now anyone can do that(cept ike) but point is everyones di in the air is good. (this is why wario is so good<- hes got the same advantages as melee jiggs had on melee
3. high priority attacks<-jiggly was unmatched in the air. now everyone has higher priority...dang that sucks
so why wasnt jiggly a friggen god in melee? No range lol. and average speed. people could wavedash away and punish jiggly while spacing.
Only thing that works in jiggly's favor is the removal of wavedashing however her airgame as well as everyones airgame(aka Melee) is gone now with multiple air dodges. and because of all theese spotdodges. smashes(aka n64) is gone now) and all that is left is the jab combo(aka brawl) which is why snake is so top tier.

 

[DoH]

peach. =\

10 charizards.

 

[Artaclaris]

Peach was majorly nerfed.

Her 2nd jump does nothing and thats very bad considering she can't grab on ledges if facing the wrong way with her upB.

Are down C ultimate killing move that could do up to 64% in one shot now does like 1/3 of that max and has no KO power.

Her killer forward slap also is very weak now and rarely KOs.

Basically they screwed her vertical jump and took away her killing moves.

 

[Pretty In Pink]

Jiggs and CF. Peach, Sheik, and Samus too. Most of the girls got unecessary nerfs.

 

[M@v]

Samus's Charge shot. 'nuff said

Nerfing every high tier character but Marth. >_<

I disagree with fox. He got nerfed, but only with his shine. Everything else is still PWN.

 

[FalconPunch]

My name got ******** nerf.

 

[petrie911]

Peach's dsmash needed a bit of a nerf. It was too good. But why nerf the turnips and the fthrow and her bair and her nair and her second jump and EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT HER? Seriously, if they had just nerfed the dsmash but left everything else the same, I'd be playing Peach right now. She would have made up for its loss with the glide toss. But no, now we have a Peach that's a shell of her former self.

 

[Zodiac]

Captain mother ****ing Falcon isn't in Brawl. That is an impostor. The real Falcon is sitting back in Melee chillin', that Falcon is Rick Wheeler.

I concur

10char

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Ganondorf's Wizard's Foot back in Melee actually did make KOs. Now it's just pathetic in the killing department. In fact, just about everything about him is lame in Brawl. Good thing that I don't main that piece of dead weight.

 

[PCHU]

I say that Pichu got a huge nerf:
It's not like he truly had weight or power in Melee, but they made him into a trophy now....
I would say that is the worst nerf of all, and now my name has less meaning.
Awesome.

 

[PillowPants]

Captain mother ****ing Falcon isn't in Brawl. That is an impostor. The real Falcon is sitting back in Melee chillin', that Falcon is Rick Wheeler.

....nuf said

 

[Darkurai]

DK's taunt.

 

[0RLY]

Samus.

Falcon can still combo with dthrow, uair, and nair.

 

[Crooked Crow]

Stupidest nerf had to be Link. He was fine in Melee, not broken, and not too bad. Why did they nerf him?

agreed =[

poor link

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

Sheik's Dair.
Everytime I play Sheik, I try to avoid using this move; Little power, too much start-up lag, and too much end-lag. What's good about it?

Oh, and Captain Falcon isn't in Brawl.

 

[25%Cotton]

Sheik's Dair.
Everytime I play Sheik, I try to avoid using this move; Little power, too much start-up lag, and too much end-lag. What's good about it?

Oh, and Captain Falcon isn't in Brawl.

uh................................................................... i dunno, i never use sheik's dair. i always forget it exists

even though sheik is one of my three mains...

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

uh................................................................... i dunno, i never use sheik's dair. i always forget it exists

It's better to forget a move that hurts more than helps.

Peach's second jump is a joke.

 

[Demon Kirby]

Captain mother ****ing Falcon isn't in Brawl. That is an impostor. The real Falcon is sitting back in Melee chillin', that Falcon is Rick Wheeler.

And we have a /thread.

Also, Jigglypuff's rest.. :'(

 

[Veggi]

Peach's second jump was replaced with an animation of her spinning around in the air. Seriously sometimes it's hard to tell whether I did my second jump or a nair.

 

[aznegglover]

Peach's second jump was replaced with an animation of her spinning around in the air. Seriously sometimes it's hard to tell whether I did my second jump or a nair.

Wow, that is /********/