Social Stuff that ends in fair..... A Sheik Social Thread!

[Teczer0]

Whyyyy would you dooo that.

Actually wait, reverse fairs are the greatest.

 

[Teczer0]

I used to have the name "Pikaville" if that rings a bell.

But a big "hello" to you too!

Wait, I feel like I've seen this name before.

Did you go to Pound 3? I feel like you were in my round 3 pool for Melee.

I remember being really surprised at a sheik and I switched to fox.

/this is what happens when you're bored I guess.

 

[-Vocal-]

That's another question I have - how do I effectively use Dair? Which characters is it good agaisnt, and in which situations is it useful?

 

[Jolteon]

dair's good for platform tech chasing, it beats get-up attack (if you dair just after they start the attack), it's good for punishing their recovery when edgehogging (set-ups into a reverse fair edgeguard or a combo), and it's perfect for comboing in situations where you pop them up above you (which can be linked to a usmash KO in certain situations).

it's also pretty lulz to use it to beat out poor approaches.

 

[DualCats]

Dair to fair is pretty typical. Dair to uair can kill off the top on some occasions, particularly on stages with low ceilings. Uair can kill Marths at ~130% on FD iirc. At particularly high percent (like- above 120% on characters of average falling speed) Uair can send your opponent too high to follow up so in cases like that, it's best to try to kill with a slap or sweet-spot bair. You could go for a grab, too. Incidentally, DI-ing the dair at high-percent can make it easier for you to follow up.

Dair is super-**** on fast fallers. On floaties, you're generally better off trying to combo them laterally, imo.

 

[Pikaville]

Wait, I feel like I've seen this name before.

Did you go to Pound 3? I feel like you were in my round 3 pool for Melee.

I remember being really surprised at a sheik and I switched to fox.

/this is what happens when you're bored I guess.

Most definitely wasn't me.

A Swedish smasher here in Ireland eh?

I must find him.

 

[gm jack]

He's also got cheap flights over to london for some of the UK tournaments (hint hint).

 

[The Good Doctor]

He's also got cheap flights over to london for some of the UK tournaments (hint hint).

Oh does he now?

 

[Pikaville]

I'm too poor to fly to England ever

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

God [Buddha] gave you arms for a reason, start swimming (or paddle boating)

 

[Jolteon]

it's ryanair lol, the ticket prices are unreal (£12 each way).

 

[Pikaville]

You underestimate my poorness haha.

I would ****ing love to go though.

Has anyone from Ireland ever been over?

 

[Jolteon]

Just smakis really <_<

 

[Pikaville]

I must find him, surely he lives in Dublin.

 

[Sinji]

I have a question. How many frames does sheik's roll take up?

 

[Jolteon]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=299984

 

[Pikaville]

I have decided that needle landed grabs are my favorite thing to do with Sheik.

 

[DualCats]

I have decided that needle landed grabs are my favorite thing to do with Sheik.

This is an excellent thing. <3

 

[-Vocal-]

I have decided that needle landed grabs are my favorite thing to do with Sheik.

?

SH Needle Throw > Grab?

 

[Crooked Crow]

?

SH Needle Throw > Grab?

Usually you turn around, needle throw in the air, land, and grab the opponent out of hitstun.

Short hop wouldn't cover that much distance, naturally. Full hop is better.

 

[Pikaville]

Plus you can mindgames with it too. You can cancel the needle charge into bair or whatever.

I learned to never bair a standing Peach ever yesterday.

I got dsmashed out of it sooooo many times.

 

[DualCats]

Bairs are actually pretty effective at higher percent if you sweetspot it. The spacing is the hard part but it's a pretty effective way to zone in that matchup imo. If Peach is just camping, though, there's no reason not to needle-troll.

 

[Pikaville]

I just kept getting sucked in

Sheik is also BOSS at catching turnips.

 

[gm jack]

Spaced bairs are one of the few things pretty safe on a CCing peach.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

yeah u just gotta do them spaced and late

 

[Teczer0]

Just space a fair.

And watch them try to cc dsmash.

and then grab them =3

Or fair again.

 

[crismas]

What an evil person.

 

[Teczer0]

You do the same exact thing with marth >:[

 

[crismas]

What? Who said :3. Jeez man, don't try and turn the tables here.

Also, go on fb.

 

[standardtoaster]

 

[Teczer0]

Sheik's jump on Stadium's platforms?

Cuz thats so annoying for me :<

Crismas - Iunno Johnny told me you played Marth on him =3

 

[soap]

it's a no impact land. I've been doing some cool stuff with it.

also this one time I ended a match by trying to space a bair but i landed on the platform and usmashed and they full jumped into it at the exact second.

so I ****ed up twice, accidentally landing, and hitting the cstick the wrong way

 

[Pikaville]

Ok so the meleesance in Ireland has been continuing.

Yesterday I took down my 2 friends Peach's very comfortably.

Spacing those bairs just like you guys said

I also found dair to really hurt Peach off the tech chase, seems to **** Falco too.

I got a good few dairs>jab>grab>fairs yesterday.

Feels good to have my Sheik moving nice and fluidly again.

I still have to get my platform dashing and wavelanding back to perfect though.

 

[Jolteon]

try on battlefield those platforms are really easy to full waveland on ^o^

 

[crismas]

Crismas - Iunno Johnny told me you played Marth on him =3

Oh, that's true LOL! Man, I love playing Marth.

 

[Pikaville]

I can get around battlefield no problem at all.

I was practicing last night a lot trying to get my movements around levels perfectly fluid again.

Totally gonna record some sets and put them up for you guys to see.

 

[Teczer0]

I can get around battlefield no problem at all.

I was practicing last night a lot trying to get my movements around levels perfectly fluid again.

Totally gonna record some sets and put them up for you guys to see.

Sweet xD let us know

 

[Tope]

Sigh... this character.

 

[Sinji]

The animation time is small. sheik has good platform camping.

 

[Pikaville]

I think the only reason I beat my friends all the time is because my mobility around platform levels is a tier or 2 above theirs.

I rarely miss platform dashes and waveland on platforms.

I am going to get good at comboing nair>d tilt today>nair>whatever today.

I was looking up some multiple dair shenanigans too hahaha.