Street Fighter IV *Super, AE and Ver.2012*

[Gates]

seriously. Every other fg is deeper than barwl except for mortal kombat and shaq fu. Lol

I disagree. UMK3 is pretty deep for a Mortal Kombat game. If you're talking about everything since Armageddon, then yeah that **** sucks.

And wow, the International Exhibition Team at the Canada Cup is retardedly good. Daigo, Jwong, and Mago all on the same team? Do they even need to play that out?

 

[Javon89]

I watched that stream, my favorite matches were when Mago went Sagat and that Blanka against Daigo.

 

[ETWIST51294]

I disagree. UMK3 is pretty deep for a Mortal Kombat game. If you're talking about everything since Armageddon, then yeah that **** sucks.

And wow, the International Exhibition Team at the Canada Cup is retardedly good. Daigo, Jwong, and Mago all on the same team? Do they even need to play that out?

i was takin about mk as a whole but ive heard about umk3 before. And that team is ********. Jwong is considered international? Come on man canada dont count.

 

[kr3wman]

Yeah Gootecks vs Mago was a really good match.

JSMaster putting Jwong on notice and the chat exploding with Canada hate when he called wong free was hilarious.

JsMaster, Air and Chi-Rithy have been relatively as good as US's best for a while now lol.

 

[Merkuri]

It's ******** that so many winners finals at international tournaments are 2 out of 3. Winners, losers and Grand Finals should all be 3 out of 5.

 

[kr3wman]

that's how SRK does it man.

Only SWF does 3/5 loser's and winner's finals, and even then some people don't.

 

[Merkuri]

that's how SRK does it man.

Only SWF does 3/5 loser's and winner's finals, and even then some people don't.

IDK, Winners and losers finals at Season Beatings redemption were 3 out of 5. So clearly some people are doing the sensible thing.

Have the top 8 videos from the Canada cup been uploaded in decent quality yet?

 

[kr3wman]

No they weren't.

You'd need to check either the TeamSpooky channel or LapChiDuong's channel.

 

[ETWIST51294]

lol these buffs and nerfs are ridiculous. Its like they barely nerf the good characters and **** over everyone else. Honda and rose barely got touched while ibuki gets stupid damage and stun nerfs.

 

[Big-Cat]

What are you talking about? Honda got damage nerfs in general. That was the biggest problem I had with him.

 

[Gates]

Honda's not-720 also got nerfed in that it has a 2-frame startup now. I do believe that that's ample time for most characters to jump out of it.

Gouken got a good deal of buffs and he needed it most out of all the characters talked about today.

Ibuki doesn't seem much different. They buffed all her normals but nerfed some of her specials. They didn't nerf the kicks, so she should still be ok.

 

[kr3wman]

If it ain't one frame that that means if you weren't doing anything you can jump out of it.

 

[ETWIST51294]

honda probably still does good damage. And i didnt even see the gouken changes. He sounds like a completly different character.

 

[Minato]

Hm... I think the changes to Ibuki are unnecessary. Hopefully they didn't list all her buffs on her normals.
I would like maybe a faster cr strong or more hit stun on it.
Losing damage on neckbreaker and stuff kinda sucks. Hopefully there's other stuff to compensate for it.

Honestly though, I think she was fine as she is. They should've just improved a bit of her normals and that's all.
She wasn't terrific in SSFIV, but she wasn't terrible either, IMO.

If she's still just as fun, or even more fun, I'll stick with her. If not, I'll just use her only in 3rd Strike I guess.

 

[Javon89]

Sagat got it pretty bad.

100 on TU, that's weaker than Dan's DP

 

[Minato]

I miss the days of Super Turbo when each character had something real scary the opponent would want to avoid.

 

[Jam Stunna]

More Turn Punch shenanigans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I8jtkhqWsU&feature=player_embedded

 

[Merkuri]

My first SSF4 tournament in 10 minutes. I'm listening to music to calm myself down.

 

[ETWIST51294]

howd ya do and since when do people hold tournies in the middle of the week?

 

[Merkuri]

howd ya do and since when do people hold tournies in the middle of the week?

My club usually holds tournaments in the middle of the week.

I got 3rd. I wish I had at least got 2nd. I'm better than the guy who knocked me out of winners and losers, or at least I beat him like 80% of the times we play casuals.

 

[Lythium]

Except tournament matches are not equivalent to casual matches.

Obv.

Congratulations on third place though.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

Merkuri, what character did you use/lose to?

 

[Merkuri]

Except tournament matches are not equivalent to casual matches.

Obv.

Congratulations on third place though.

Yeah I know, but I'm still convince I'm better than he is.

My problem was that I actually tried to fight him, I should have just stayed back and span Hadoukens. Balrog beats Akuma head to head.

 

[kr3wman]

If you have the lead you can do anything you want.

But once akuma has a knockdown on balrog he can just bring the pain train to him.

 

[Merkuri]

How do you figure that? My demon flip mix ups seemed useless because of that stupid headbutt into ultra, which seemingly doesn't trade but cleanly beat all of the demon flip options. Maybe it's about time I learn the air hadouken cross up mix up.

 

[kr3wman]

No offense, but you're probably doing it wrong. Try going for the crossup divekicks/tatsu, the palm just before going to the ground and ambiguous safe jumped crossups.

do you do those? if not it should help.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

... I really wish Gouken had a lagless Demon Flip variation.

 

[Merkuri]

Can someone explained to me what's up with the Street Fighter 4 movie? I just youtubed the whole thing, and it ends with Vega and Balrog taking Seth on board their helicopter. But I don't think that is supposed to be the end, I remember their being some battle between Akuma and Ryu for the movie. Is there like a part 2 of the ssf4 movie? Can someone please explain this to me?

 

[Cherry64]

that is most def's just a SF4 anime. it's only like 48 minuets long. I saw it a while back too, I can look for the links if someone wants to check it out on here.

 

[ThreeX]

How do you figure that? My demon flip mix ups seemed useless because of that stupid headbutt into ultra, which seemingly doesn't trade but cleanly beat all of the demon flip options. Maybe it's about time I learn the air hadouken cross up mix up.

akuma vs rog can be a little rough, once you get the knock down you can really bully him. You wanna go into training mode and get the timing down for safe jump palm, and also add on os sweep. It covers every option, so once you start to make him just block, then you can dominate his face. Just remember rog has a stupid hit box, so experiment with combos that will work on him at certain ranges.

Oh, and if he's one of those bad rogs that plays the STUPID aggressive game. (across screen ex rush punches, that stupid overhead) Make sure you do low forward buffer in DP when you see an ex rush punch coming at you, and for the overhead just make sure you block that thing, it's so **** slow. Either that or DP through it if you see him going for it


and about the air fb mix up...yeah, it's not really gdlk or anything, you can only do it after certain situations. You can use it after a palm hit, and after a demon throw. For the throw you wanna dash up once then do the TK air ball, for the palm you just back up a little then do the motions. You could also be a little flashy and go for srk fadc then Tk air ball, that looks sick.. but you're gambling with 2 meters. Jus do it if you know they're free<3


edit: forgot to add another really good & easy safe jump setup. After a sweep, if you hold up forward and do the command dive kick, it'll safe jump every reversal that is 5 frames or slower. (adon and deejay are the exceptions)

 

[Gates]

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/nov/21/ssf4-ae-changes-blanka-abel-gen-makoto/

Breathless super armor removed? Then why bother using it at all? Other than that Abel didn't get nerfed bad, even though nerfs were apparently all he got.

Gen's changes look good. Ultra 2 looks a lot better now, but I still don't see why I would go with that when I can do this with Ultra 1.

Makoto actually looks really threatening now.

 

[kr3wman]

if you can kara ultra one it's gonna be awesome lol.

 

[Jam Stunna]

Makoto's changes make me very happy

 

[ThreeX]

I really like the changes this week, kinda wish they gave gen his hands back.. but whatever. One thing I'm really confused about, is how they said last week that honda is weaker, but they weren't specific about it. While with abel, they went all out and said his TT is weaker, ultras, blah blah blah blah.


edit: and i still have to wait longer for akuma D:<

 

[Matador]

Lol...they neutered Abel...poor guy.

Hopefully breathless still punishes jump-ins somewhat...otherwise it's literally useless.

 

[ThreeX]

Lol...they neutered Abel...poor guy.

Hopefully breathless still punishes jump-ins somewhat...otherwise it's literally useless.

it can still be used to punish certain things. Start up is 8 I think? so.. that's not too bad


edit: nvm... didn't see that they were slowing down the start up. Maybe you're right

 

[Big-Cat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw98I6eY1hE

 

[kr3wman]

thats pretty old.

 

[Big-Cat]

Well it's new to me!

 

[Gates]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw98I6eY1hE

Dang it, Kuma.

That boy ain't right, I tell you whut.