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Yeah, its called the Meta Knight seriesIf Kirby isn't the main character, then who is? Meta knight sure isn't.
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Yeah, its called the Meta Knight seriesIf Kirby isn't the main character, then who is? Meta knight sure isn't.
No such game exists.Yeah, its called the Meta Knight series
Obviously, we meant Kirby is the main character in the KIRBY series, if you couldn't figure that out >_>.... Which is why he should be a starter over metaknightkirby is not the main character in the series.
EDIT: When I made that post, I was tired, so I beg of you to read it carefully. Sorry, heh.Um... what? I don't exactly understand the reasoning concerning SamuraiPanda's thoughts concerning the roster.
When Sakurai announced Brawl's appearance at E For All (and the delay of course), he said that it would use a limited roster. You could interpret it either way, but I doubt Sakurai would play with words, he probably wants to make it clear: only certain characters would be playable at E For All. Same thing with the Ness controversy.
And seriously, why the HELL would you have the starting roster consist of Meta Knight instead of Kirby? Meta Knight is Kirby's rival, Kirby is the main character. It's like starting off as Luigi and having to unlock Mario (not as extreme, of course-- just tried to find an example). On top of that, the roster is displayed EXACTLY the same way as it was at E For All. I find it very unlikely that he would want to reveal all the spaces, even with new spaces appearing that had no question mark, like in Melee. Without the spaces without question marks, we will know that there are a certain amount of characters plus more, which were blank spaces. I really didn't say this very clearly, but I hope you can understand my point.
And I think people are taking the idea of unlocking characters in the Subspace Emissary too much to the extreme. First off, he said MOST characters, not ALL characters (somebody's stated this before, doesn't reflect this podcast). And he said CAN unlock them that way. You can't possibly forget that Melee had alternate methods.
He probably wanted to use the E For All roster as opposed to the starters, in the case that we'll know who's hidden and who's not. He said he wouldn't put much emphasis on that, but he hasn't announced, say, Ganondorf, who would obviously be a hidden character, so he isn't quite going "let it all out, yippee!!!" by 100 percent.
It doesn't make sense because he's the main character of the series... you know... Kirby?Why is it so weird that Kirby isn't a starter? Because it breaks the Smash Bros. tradition of having veteran characters not be unlockables? That's just ridiculous. Brawl is a new game, and I whole-heartedly believe that Sakurai intends to give us a new experience--we've got stage builder, third-party characters, online play, and probably still more to come--Brawl is VERY different from its two predecessors, I don't see how making Kirby unlockable is illogical.
Tradition has nothing to do with it. Think of it simply: WHY, why, why, why, WHY would you have META KNIGHT as a starter instead of the MAIN FREAKING CHARACTER?
Word. Both very compelling arguments.That, and y'know... Where's the fun in unlocking characters that you already know are coming?
I agree that two games is no basis for a pattern. The only thing you would probably say is that they're going to have an incentive to up the ante even more. Which means that they probably want to increase the overall roster by a few. Subtracting the clones, that means at least 10 newcomers, which is obviously so, since we've already seen 11. So that's consistent with what we've already seen. Add in 4 or so of the veterans and an additional newcomer and we've got a 30 person roster. I think it's fair to assume that it's at least 30 characters. Because you can be guaranteed that the roster is going UP. That's the only pattern you need to assume. But given that 30 is the lower bound, by this reasoning, that means there's good reason to think that it's going to be more than 30.Ok, this is the last straw. I will not go unheard about this and I will make it clear. This is the Rumor Zoomer Theory. [...] For those of you who say there's a so-called "pattern" in character increase then you must've been tricked, either that or are just plain Smash illiterate. There has only been 2 games. Just because one game came out with a double increase of characters (not exactly if you rule out clones) does not mean that Brawl will have 62 characters or whatever!
Lack of imagination is not an argument.Can you imagine fighting against Pokemon Trainer? How could they twist the story to do that? I find it much more plausible that when you get to a certain part in the story, you see a cutscene with PT fighting, say, Bowser or something, and then you have to play WITH PT to beat Bowser. PT could be unlocked as soon as you play with him, or he could be unlocked when you beat that match.
This either throws this theory out the window or secures it.I don't know if this already has been mentioned but this is not the exact chracter select screen as the demo. Namely the items/stage/leave buttons on the screen that weren't there for the demo.
theory just got pwndSo if I am understanding your thinking here correctly, those who see this screen on the Dojo who did not know about the demo will logically assume this is close to the starter roster.
Then logically those who saw this screen shot will assume this is icon screen you will have when going online for friends mode
Now personally I don't want thos to be true, but the majority of the facts say this may indeed be the starting friends mode icon screen, if not close to it. Now Im not saying it couldn't change, it just won't change dramatically.
No wonder Sakurai doesn't want people going online, 8 hidden charachters are spoiled off the bat even before starting. Now granted the Mii's will be different for other people. Also, some of the starting roster is also missing in the icon screen, but Im sure Sakurai has a reason to keep them hidden.
okay, number 1: How the (beep) is it rediculous? Oh thats right, its not. You are just trying to support a dumb theory so you are saying untrue things. Keep in mind, that this is the LAST SMASH GAME. Sakurai himself said he wants to make this memmorable, and playable for many many many years. I dont think 8 more characters than melee will keep people playing for years.I'm considering he may be gone sadly. I'm braced for it if this is true. I never said that clones would come back with new movesets, remember me talking about Ganondorf? I'd prefer that. I'm hoping clones come back uncloned and completely original. Although this seems unlikely since how much work would go into so much tweaking and changing and all for already done characters. (Talking to everyone here.) Trust me, if you don't want to be completely disappointed then look at it from a different standpoint. If I'm right then look at it this way. All of the characters in Brawl will have a completely original edge and won't have unnecisary clones that take up game space. I seriously wish we had more characters though.
EDIT: Hippo, go jump in a lake. you won't be so happy when you're disappointed at your extraneous expectations. Btw, I actually think the roster we have so far actually would be completely good to me. I don't expect "put in exact amount of characters" for Brawl. If you could think of how hard that they work for the game in its entirety then you'd see how ridiculous 40 characters is.
Exactly! If this was made by any other person, the moderators would be quick to lock that **** up. Don't be scared to disagree with a moderator. They are just the same as you or me. ZOMG they have a different color name and special priveleges, big deal. It's a website -.-' seriously. I don't agree with this theory, I don't like this theory. It's completely inaccurate and bias.The fact is if this wasnt made by a mod, nobody would agree and it would be locked... in my view its been proven totaly wrong, and should be locked
nice opinionWe wont have less than 20 starters.
And finally, let me just be clear with you people. Like Ive already said in the first post, which many of you chose to simply skip over it seems, this is just a possiblity. The entire reason I made this post was to keep people's minds open to the possiblity that this may be around what the starting roster is. I don't think, nor have I ever thought, that my theory proves anything other than this is a possibility.
And then...3. Alot of you are doing exactly what I asked you not to do. Throwing around opinions as facts, or saying "I don't think this is true because I don't want it to be true."
Lol.We wont have less than 20 starters.
Thank you, SamuraiPanda! I had not even considered the possibility before the podcast, but your arguments were very well thought-out. I agree.And finally, let me just be clear with you people. Like Ive already said in the first post, which many of you chose to simply skip over it seems, this is just a possiblity. The entire reason I made this post was to keep people's minds open to the possiblity that this may be around what the starting roster is. I don't think, nor have I ever thought, that my theory proves anything other than that this is a possibility.
I thought that the point of this thread was discussion purposes and posing questions and the such, I'm sorry it turned into this. If I may, SP though, I'd just like to see how you can fit two points into your theory? Not to put you on the spot. =p Just for discussions sake.And finally, let me just be clear with you people. Like Ive already said in the first post, which many of you chose to simply skip over it seems, this is just a possiblity. The entire reason I made this post was to keep people's minds open to the possiblity that this may be around what the starting roster is. I don't think, nor have I ever thought, that my theory proves anything other than that this is a possibility.
The way you said it originally made it sound like you were stating a fact, just after SamPanda got done saying too many people are tossing around opinion and conjecture as fact. I agree with you when I say I think the starting roster will be over 20, but I can in no way say that the starting line-up WILL be over 20. For all we know the starting line-up could end up being Game and Watch and a picture of Sakurai just furiously giving us the finger. But, that's just my theoryWhat's so funny about having no less than 20 starters?
Uh...The first was this comment by The Dojo.
"And as the case has always been, I’ve made it so you can play the characters you unlock in battles."
He had JUST gone off on a tangent about unlocking characters in the SSE. I suppose that he was talking about playing the online exclusive version of the SSE by your logic? <_< Look I can use emoticons that express my feelings towards your statement too. Ambiguity is common in Sakurai's updates, and just because you interpret it one way does not mean another person does, or that either of them is unnecessarily the RIGHT way, so acting that way is completely and utterly arrogant and foolish. Please watch yourself next time. I even stated in my post that it was the way I interpreted it.Uh...
Wow. How do I put this.
Maybe he meant playing the characters you unlocked, online? I mean, that is where that quote comes from. ¬¬a
Also, if this is the starting roster, then so what? Oh lordy if we actually have to unlock characters. :/ Might involve some effort and work, maybe a little discovery and forethought. I agree with Panda if this is true. Then yes, you will have to think "Oh, a choice in the SSE, better not choose the character I have in hopes to unlock this person!" ;/ And I don't really see a problem with this theory. It could be true, or it could be totally wrong.