Stage .H.A.C.K.ing Central

[br3compactor]

Hey hey, who killed this thread?

*gives a Green Mushroom to the thread*

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Good question.

Crateria is done BTW.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=16024

 

[libertyernie]

We needed a 1-up here. Like at the end of Scott Pilgrim 6.

 

[Ls777]

Hey, maybe somebody can help me out here...
im looking to transfer the water in hanenbow to a final-d based stage, but i cant seem to find where it is located. Somebody told me that its probably located in the rel file, but i dont understand how i can put it on my stage... i would gladly just import my stage into hanenbow, but hanenbows file size limit is way too small :srs:

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

The water is part of the main model of the stage IIRC.
The effects are hard coded into the .rel.

I need a squid model to use.
It should be small.
I would use blooper's trophy model, but his model freezes the game.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Getting into stage hacking now. I have a strong desire to make janky stages.

Should I just jump right in or should I start easy?

 

[Olimario1892]

start easy, if you jump right in and do complicated things you may get discouraged. go to wacka alpaca's youtube page for brawl hacking tutorials if you need them

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Start with 2D stages so that you can learn about Stage Collisions and how they work.

Adventure Island is coming along great.

I fixed the Shadows, finished rescaling it, and added Palm Trees to the BG.

 

[DarkChris126]

i need help, i am making a 2-d stage and i cant find the collision data.

nevermind i wasnt using the newest version of brawl box

 

[DarkChris126]

can somebody tell me if im doing the collisions right?

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Hmmm..

A word of advice, you can attach collisions together.

First you select one of the end points of one collision, then you Alt + Rigth click and when you create a new collision, it will be attached to the end you highlighted.

 

[DarkChris126]

Hmmm..

A word of advice, you can attach collisions together.

First you select one of the end points of one collision, then you Alt + Rigth click and when you create a new collision, it will be attached to the end you highlighted.

thanks, but now i have a new problem when i tried it on my wii, all i got was this stage with numbers and wii remote icons

 

[Segtendo]

Is your picture a multiple of 2? (2x2, 4x4, 8x8, 256x256) etc?
I believe that may be your problem.
You just can't have the images any ol' size.

 

[DarkChris126]

Is your picture a multiple of 2? (2x2, 4x4, 8x8, 256x256) etc?
I believe that may be your problem.
You just can't have the images any ol' size.

hmm i have been resizing my picture, do you know the exact size it has to be segtendo.

ok i fixed that problem, but now my background comes out but my foreground doesnt, any ideas why.

 

[Ls777]

The water is part of the main model of the stage IIRC.
The effects are hard coded into the .rel.

oh ok, so i would have to import the main model and edit the rel?

im unsure about how to go about doing this =P

 

[DarkChris126]

ok after about 10 tries with changing the background and foreground its still doesnt work,
all that shows is the background and thats it, my collisions and foreground dont appear.
any ideas why?

This is what it is supposed to look like.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Highlight the entire collision line and some options should appear on the left side.
Assign the lines different functions like Floor, Left Wall, Right Wall, and ledges.

On your screen, there are 3 collision lines to edit. Make sure it's not set to None.

 

[DarkChris126]

Highlight the entire collision line and some options should appear on the left side.
Assign the lines different functions like Floor, Left Wall, Right Wall, and ledges.

On your screen, there are 3 collision lines to edit. Make sure it's not set to None.

ok thanks for helping me with this eternal, ill try that, and will this fix my problem i have right now with the stage?
also what does it mean by stage position.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

The collision problems, yes.

 

[DarkChris126]

The collision problems, yes.

Ok thanks eternal i now have the collisions except they are invisible and really low XD, but the foreground still doesnt appear . is there any way to fix this.

 

[Segtendo]

Stage position=death zones, camera boundaries, respawn points, item spawn points, locations for where you start at the beginning of the match, and also includes where Olimar, Lucario, and Ice Climbers's final smash goes.

 

[DarkChris126]

http://www.mediafire.com/?yh4fsvoo3m3mpdt

Here is my .PAC file i am editing. can somebody fix the things that are making only the background show and not the collisions or foreground.

 

[libertyernie]

I think your problem is that the lower camera boundary is above the stage. Try moving the stage up by editing the AskTank.0 texture.

 

[DarkChris126]

thanks liberty ill try that.

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

thanks liberty ill try that.

If you're having problems aligning the top and bottom layer, you're going to want to make sure that if you're looking to make them align you must make sure they align EXACTLY. I don't know if anyone else has had this problem, but even though they were pretty much the same image, the background would always be larger. By luck/trial and error I finally was able to align the two, but I'm telling you now that things could go badly really quickly. Oh, and the WackaAlpaca template freezes, I recommend downloading someone else's stage and work from there with collisions, textures, etc.

 

[DarkChris126]

ok so i just download any old final destination texture hacks and work from there.

yea that is not going to work out for me, i just tried on a melee textures FD and there was alot more textures than the 2d template.

im now trying the hyrule castle 2D template, ill see how it goes.

 

[DarkChris126]

ugh i got the same results, just the background, no foreground, and with the invisible collisions.

plz tell me there is a fix to this.

 

[DarkChris126]

i think i figured out whats causing it, see whenever i add my foreground and background, the palettes dissapear, is there any way to fix this.

 

[Link40]

Here, just to show progress of my OoT Sacred Forest Meadow stage ! I finally found how to fix the glitch with the fairies, and I think it was the same problem as for my Spencer Mansion, so I will soon see if I can fix the freezing !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ExLmZiQvNE&feature=player_embedded

 

[Ls777]

Here, just to show progress of my OoT Sacred Forest Meadow stage ! I finally found how to fix the glitch with the fairies, and I think it was the same problem as for my Spencer Mansion, so I will soon see if I can fix the freezing !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ExLmZiQvNE&feature=player_embedded

Looking good bro

 

[DarkChris126]

i dont need help anymore, my problem was that i needed to set my background and foreground to C18 format. XD

 

[Akuma2120]

So I was trying to make a more neutral or competitive or whatever version of pumpkin hill, and most of it worked out ok, but the big problem is the background image won't show up, it's all black, I've tried a few things and nothing changes, anyone got any idea why?

 

[br3compactor]

Whohooooooo melee fd released!

 

[libertyernie]

Yep. Also the new version of Yoshi's Story. Thanks GameWatching! :D

 

[standardtoaster]

...These weren't supposed to be released yet. Not until the project m demo. >.>

 

[MonkUnit]

Standardtoaster is right. GW PM'd me to ask when he should release Melee FD and YS, the PMBR told me to tell him to release those stages AFTER the demo was released. Not /before/. If GW would be so kind as to take those stages down and follow the release rules we gave him, that would be grand.

 

[libertyernie]

That's what I thought too. But at least now I can make SSPs for them. (Or should I delete them?)
I'll hold off releasing my pack of classic stages with these two in it until the P:M demo is out. I won't give them to anyone else.

 

[MonkUnit]

We already have made SSPs for YS and FD. Thank you for your effort though.

 

[shanus]

Additionally, the YS released by them appears to have incorrect Randall movements. When we release PM, it will have a YS with melee-exact randall pathing.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

It also looks like it has incorrect Pak E Derm movements. I'm pretty sure Pak E Derm moved in front of that left tree. Whilst not important for gameplay, it still is pretty annoying.