SSB4 vs Brawl graphics comparison

[Jumpman84]

Adult Link from Brawl isn't the same Adult Link from Melee either. In the end, it is quite clear that Toon Link replaced Young Link.

That's a different case. Link from Melee and Link from Brawl are designed after different Links, but are clearly the same Link in the Smash Bros. universe. Young Link and Toon Link are completely different characters. Otherwise, they would both be referred to as Young Link.

Eh in a sense, Toon Link is as much of a redesign from Young Link as the Twilight Princess designs of Link, Zelda, Sheik and Ganondorf are from their Ocarina of Time counterparts. The only reason Toon Link got a name change I assume is because it would no longer make sense to refer to him as the younger aged version of the default Link as he's a completely different character.

Though even with that said. Toon Link is still considered a Brawl newcomer and a replacement of Young Link despite that the Twilight Princess counterparts of the others aren't.

I think you can just refer to them as the child Link I suppose....

I respectfully disagree with Toon Link being a redesign of Young Link. I believe that it's more that Sakurai wanted a "child Link", but decided to create Toon Link rather than bringing back Young Link since Wind Waker had come out and was the counterpart to Twilight Princess. Hopefully, we'll get to see Young Link return in Smash 4 as each Link has their own unique properties.

 

[Curious Villager]

Yes, Toon Link was the more toon counterpart than the more detailed looking Twilight Princess Link, hence the nickname "Toon Link". Likewise Young Link was the younger counterpart of the adult Link, hence the nickname "Young Link".

I highly doubt we will be seeing Young Link as a playable character in this installment though.

 

[Uffe]

I want to see Captain Falcon already.

 

[cmbsfm]

Damn, the improvements are very noticeable, even for kirby .
I'd like to see more comparisons for other characters please.

 

[ToothiestAura]

I want to see Captain Falcon already.

Yeah, Captian Falcon's gonna look great. He and the other character that actually look human. Marth looks great, I wanna see Captain Falcon, Zamus and Ike. Little Mac may be a bit too realistic if you ask me.

 

[ToothiestAura]

Update on the Assist Trophies: Waluigi returns, but how does he look?

Waluigi looks a lot better too me. Out of all we've seen Waluigi seems to have been the most washed-out in Brawl in comparison. These brighter colors do him well. His "glued" fingers stay that way, but otherwise he looks better.

 

[Superyoshiom]

Update on the Assist Trophies: Waluigi returns, but how does he look?

Waluigi looks a lot better too me. Out of all we've seen Waluigi seems to have been the most washed-out in Brawl in comparison. These brighter colors do him well. His "glued" fingers stay that way, but otherwise he looks better.

It's still not too late in devolopment to seperate those fingers, though I need would have noticed unless someone pointed them out anyways.

 

[Big-Cat]

Only thing I miss about Melee's character models is Fox. Melee Fox looks 10x better than Brawl/Smash 4's Fox.

Probably gonna be the same for Falco as well.

You mean Corgi Fox?

 

[D-idara]

I think the two best improvements are Sonic and Dedede, Sonic just looks SO MUCH BETTER without his weird, mouth-in-the-middle Sonic 06' design, this one seems much closer to the Unleashed design. Also, lol @ Little Mac comparison, he looked so awkward before Punch-Out Wii.

 

[PadWarrior]

I love how expressive the facial features are in the new Smash to go along with the bright colors.

 

[Moon Monkey]

It's still not too late in devolopment to seperate those fingers, though I need would have noticed unless someone pointed them out anyways.

Although modeling out his fingers can be done, instead of just of just applying a 2D texture of a hand to his 'nub', it is completely unnecessary.
Especially, since he is an assist trophy and they tend to look a lot lower in resolution than playable characters

 

[smashbro29]

Although modeling out his fingers can be done, instead of just of just applying a 2D texture of a hand to his 'nub', it is completely unnecessary.
Especially, since he is an assist trophy and they tend to look a lot lower in resolution than playable characters

It is 2014, that **** is unacceptable.

 

[Mysteltainn]

I want to see Captain Falcon already.

This, and bring Ness out already while you're at it!

 

[Empyrean]

It is 2014, that **** is unacceptable.

As much as I don't care for graphics as long as everything looks smooth, this is true, specially since the masses consider graphics as one of the most important aspects of any modern game. Smash 4 will need everything it can to move units, it can't afford to lag behind in any department; visuals are no exception.

That clipping, on the other hand........yeah, they seriously should do something about that.

 

[smashbro29]

As much as I don't care for graphics as long as everything looks smooth, this is true, specially since the masses consider graphics as one of the most important aspects of any modern game. Smash 4 will need everything it can to move units, it can't afford to lag behind in any department; visuals are no exception.

That clipping, on the other hand........yeah, they seriously should do something about that.

I'm not asking for crisis levels here. Make hands actual hands and not drawn lines on a nub.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Didn't Arc Systems do something specifically with the engine to prevent clipping for Guilty Gear Xrd?

I can understand clipping through the opponent, but having Zelda's entire leg clipping out of her dress when she does a forward tilt is complete bs.

 

[smashbro29]

Didn't Arc Systems do something specifically with the engine to prevent clipping for Guilty Gear Xrd?

I can understand clipping through the opponent, but having Zelda's entire leg clipping out of her dress when she does a forward tilt is complete bs.

Couldn't agree more. Self clipping is unacceptable.

 

[Empyrean]

Or Dedede's coat clipping through just about every part of his body.

I'm not asking for crisis levels here. Make hands actual hands and not drawn lines on a nub.

I know. I was mostly referring to Waluigi's hands. Also, it's sad that Mother Brain's model is just a sphere with brain texture slapped onto it. They could have at least put some effort with actual, distinct circumvolutions.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Guess Sakurai is cutting corners for the sake of frame rate.

Well atleast this smash bros is keeping tradition since Melee with Link.

Best looking, worst character.

 

[Uffe]

This, and bring Ness out already while you're at it!

While on the subject, I'd like to see Captain Falcon have his old outfit from the first F-Zero game. As an alternate costume, at least.

 

[soviet prince]

lets remember the actual game wont be this close up

 

[TheMagicalKuja]

You mean Corgi Fox?

Wow
You show Fox
Such blaster
Much waveshine
So amazing

 

[Poots]

I made this a while back

 

[Tornado_Man]

I made this a while back View attachment 9605

Wonder why they changed the smile to a shocked expression

 

[Dark Phazon]

Yeah, Captian Falcon's gonna look great. He and the other character that actually look human. Marth looks great, I wanna see Captain Falcon, Zamus and Ike. Little Mac may be a bit too realistic if you ask me.

MEWTWO / C.Falcon/Ganon/PKMN Trainer/Wario are my most hyped vets too see in HD.

 

[Poots]

MEWTWO / C.Falcon/Ganon/PKMN Trainer/Wario are my most hyped vets too see in HD.

Wario in HD... "Shudders"

 

[R0Y]

The Pokeballs now have shiny reflections. This is going to look amazing if it really is native 1080p.

Spoiler

 

[Souless_shadow]

I love they made it look cartoony but still kept in little details like the stitching on the character's clothes. I am sure that this game is going to look so beautiful! I feel like I may even get distracted by the graphics when I'm playing.

 

[R0Y]

R
@ theboredone — pretty sure the Wii was a step-up from the Xbox, because the Wii U is definitely better than the 360. It's on par, if not slightly better than the PS3 even.

I'm really late but in the simplest of terms, PS3 has the worst GPU of all 3 and the 360 was in many ways more powerful than the PS3 despite lacking the Cell (which was extremely hard to take advantage of anyway) and being released a year earlier. It's complicated and confusing,

CPU: PS3 >, possibly 360 > Wii U

GPU: Wii U > 360 > PS3

RAM, in both type and total: Wii U > PS3/360

RAM clock: 360 (plus 256-bit bus) > PS3 (+ 128-bit bus) > Wii U (64-bit bus)

Wii U is a bit more powerful than both but it has some flaws, it's not an order of magnitude, and for a variety of reasons, particuarly CPU clock (which isn't everything) and memory bandwidth, 3rd parties have struggled with keeping ports to the PS3/360 standard.

 

[DonkaFjord]

Wonder why they changed the smile to a shocked expression

To fit how he is portrayed as now since luigi's mansion is becoming more prominent.

 

[ToothiestAura]

Wario in HD... "Shudders"

Thankfully Wario will be kept less realistic than Little Mac. We don't need to see Wario that realistic. Keeping him cartoony like Mario and Luigi will be fine.

 

[Dairz]

Poor Ness, his shorts clip through his shirt, while his shirt clips through his face. Don't even mention Yoshi, his tail gets completely lost in his body sometimes.

I don't expect anything less from the new Smash; clipping is practically a tradition.

 

[Tornado_Man]

 

[CroonerMike]

Poor Ness, his shorts clip through his shirt, while his shirt clips through his face. Don't even mention Yoshi, his tail gets completely lost in his body sometimes.

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I don't expect anything less from the new Smash; clipping is practically a tradition.

Do people actually care about clipping? I know I hardly notice is when I play.

 

[Dairz]

Do people actually care about clipping? I know I hardly notice is when I play.

Some people above were complaining about it, but I don't mind it. It can actually create some pretty funny screenshots.

 

[Poots]

I don't mind clipping, but they should at least try to avoid it. Bowser is probably the best example of how bad they let it get.

 

[Tornado_Man]

Clipping's okay with me, as long as it isn't so blatantly bad that it has someone like Link's sword going through himself.

 

[DonkaFjord]

Thankfully Wario will be kept less realistic than Little Mac. We don't need to see Wario that realistic. Keeping him cartoony like Mario and Luigi will be fine.

Little Mac is heavily stylized to match his punch out wii incarnation, I don't see why other people are saying he is "too realistic" either. In terms of humanoid video game character he skews towards cartoony realism (like the exaggerated art style of team fortress for example- cartoony in terms of realism, but not super unrealistic.) Wario will look on key and probably be very close to how Waluigi and the Mario Brothers appear.

Poor Ness, his shorts clip through his shirt, while his shirt clips through his face. Don't even mention Yoshi, his tail gets completely lost in his body sometimes.

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I don't expect anything less from the new Smash; clipping is practically a tradition.

People were complaining about zelda's leg clipping through her dress, but it obviously is still in development. Like when peach holds a part of her dress the dress doesn't go up yet. This is all polishing stuff, not their first priority and some people don't get that (Some people complain for the sake of complaining.) Some slight clipping is unavoidable in some cases, but for the most part they have been pretty good with the final polish on the games. It is nice to see some realistic people pointing out that some clipping does happen.

 

[StupendousMike]

Sonic looks great in the new game. I love the way they're doing his mouth, it makes him look like his old (best) self.

 

[Tornado_Man]

Sonic looks great in the new game. I love the way they're doing his mouth, it makes him look like his old (best) self.

Yeah. The Sonic '06 design they went with in Brawl just wasn't fitting for him. Plus his mouth should be on the side of his face, as it always has been.