SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[EmbersToAshes]

It's barely in frame , and there isn't any proof what you're saying is true. I do see how you can see that this is the case. I did not see the wii u until looking at the pic again this morning, i wasn't even sure it was on.

Some people have been saying he's intentionally done that to throw people off, somebody did this for a leaked copy of MK9 apparently?

I thought this was just because of the lighting that the sun provides like how this picture changes lighting from right to left, but i do see how it can look spotty.

Spoiler

We're it the lighting of the stage itself the difference would be gradual across the visible areas of sky - this isn't. There's one line level on the left, and another on the right. You've also entirely ignored the area of neck I pointed out - a whiter area sharply transition with a far more shaded area with no gradual shading to suggest it was intentional.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

There is a bit of a bluish light on the tv stand, which leads me to believe the TV is in fact on. But I could be wrong.

Were the tv on there would be visible backlighting on the rear side of the bloke's finger, which is evidently in the dark. The sliver of white light escaping from the tv screen above the image on the right hand side, consistent with the light reflected off the tv top from the room's lightbulb also suggests a black screen. This isn't to say I don't want Chrom, or don't believe he's in the game - I just don't believe the validity of this image.

Edit: Sorry for the double post - meant to edit this onto my previous post.

 

[Pazzo.]

Wow, this thread exploded! That Chrom model... It does look really good, but WHY wait until

APRIL FOOLS DAY to release it? If he's going to try and claim it's real, why wait until today? Even delaying one day would raise it's credibility. It HAS to be just a really good photoshop.

EDIT: Now, I'm not against Chrom in the game, I just think this Image is Bonk.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Aaaaaaand Chrom joins Palutena apparently ala Exalted Middle Finger Leak... maybe.

In anycase, fascinating.

 

[Muster]

We're it the lighting of the stage itself the difference would be gradual across the visible areas of sky - this isn't. There's one line level on the left, and another on the right. You've also entirely ignored the area of neck I pointed out - a whiter area sharply transition with a far more shaded area with no gradual shading to suggest it was intentional.

It may seem that way, but it's likely just due to chrom's mug being in the middle of the screen.
I ignored your statement on chrom's neck because i plain didn't see it at that point.
Edit: I just looked at the screenshot with my screen tilted up, and now i see what you're talking about. It does look like a mess up on Chrom's neck. However, it could just be a problem with the model itself, which is an entirely possible thing which i've seen before in smash.
Sorry about the slow response, my internet is on the fritz, i hope it doesn't go down.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

It may seem that way, but it's likely just due to chrom's mug being in the middle of the screen.
I ignored your statement on chrom's neck because i plain didn't see it at that point.
Edit: I just looked at the screenshot with my screen tilted up, and now i see what you're talking about. It does look like a mess up on Chrom's neck. However, it could just be a problem with the model itself, which is an entirely possible thing which i've seen before in smash.
Sorry about the slow response, my internet is on the fritz, i hope it doesn't go down.

Don't worry about it. Yeah, there's a clear white line there on the neck with no transition whatsoever, it just doesn't fit the shading seen in the area at all. It could, of course, be a model issue, but it seems a rather amateur mistake to make when you consider the probable experience of the game's developers, and when you take Into account both the positioning and facial model similarities between Chrom and Marth, the background issues, the neck shading issues and the fact that he's mocked the picture into a tv screen, it falls apart as a 'leak' for me. There's too many cons and not enough pros. It is however, a fantastic fake.

 

[xxEliteAlicexx]

It's barely in frame , and there isn't any proof what you're saying is true. I do see how you can see that this is the case. I did not see the wii u until looking at the pic again this morning, i wasn't even sure it was on.

Some people have been saying he's intentionally done that to throw people off, somebody did this for a leaked copy of MK9 apparently?

I thought this was just because of the lighting that the sun provides like how this picture changes lighting from right to left, but i do see how it can look spotty.

Spoiler

That doesn't show lighting from left to right, more so for up and down.... so yeah, just had to point that out.

 

[Oblivion129]

It seems weird for it to be on the neck. I mean, making the shoulder pad with all the correct lighting would be pretty hard. Maybe it's supposed to be like that, but it looks off.

 

[Nintendotard]

Wow, the Chrom leak looking more real?...hmm...I don't know what to think...I guess with all the support I can't turn my cheek to it now.

 

[Hoots]

The fact that people aren't getting this joke is embarrassing. HE HAS A POSTER OF OTHER M! What more do you people want?

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

That look on Chrom just gives that same vibe, the same air of stoic-like personality he has in his portraits in Awakening, even past being translated on Smash Bros 4's style.

Spoiler

Call me easy to fool but this is enough of a hunch feel to tell me that this is a legit leak. It takes more than good Photoshopping to make believable models like these.

 

[Muster]

Don't worry about it. Yeah, there's a clear white line there on the neck with no transition whatsoever, it just doesn't fit the shading seen in the area at all. It could, of course, be a model issue, but it seems a rather amateur mistake to make when you consider the probable experience of the game's developers, and when you take Into account both the positioning and facial model similarities between Chrom and Marth, the background issues, the neck shading issues and the fact that he's mocked the picture into a tv screen, it falls apart as a 'leak' for me. There's too many cons and not enough pros. It is however, a fantastic fake.

I have my doubts on this as well, (same case with the palutena leak, really.) but i'm not writing it off just yet in the off off off off chance that it ends up being real. In the end it won't really matter i guess, as Chrom will likely be in the game in some form regardless.

The photographer is an asshole, though.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Looking at the chest clothes Chrom has on, it looks really good, and doesn't really look similar to Marth's clothing at all.

 

[Banjodorf]

If it weren't for the angle, positioning, face similarities (although granted, it does actually look like Chrom's face now that I see it.) and trolling in the other parts of the pic, and it being April Fool's, I'd call it a likely legit leak. Somehow.

I'm sure that guy is laughing pretty hard at us though, because most of us ended up like headless chickens anyway.

 

[BKupa666]

I'm not going to comment much on Chrom until tomorrow, so as to avoid giving a potential April Fool's Day attention-seeker what he wants, but I will say that those trying to call hypocrisy on those skeptical about this image and not the Palutena ones have no case to make. The Palutena images have stood the test of time over more than two months, whereas this Chrom image was released today, and has already had a handful of fishy components pointed out.

Anyways, if this is indeed real, this kills off all of the "leaks" claiming Chrom to be in a duo with Lucina, including that one crap roster you all like to bring up...what's it called again??

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

If it weren't for the angle, positioning, face similarities (although granted, it does actually look like Chrom's face now that I see it.) and trolling in the other parts of the pic, and it being April Fool's, I'd call it a likely legit leak. Somehow.

I'm sure that guy is laughing pretty hard at us though, because most of us ended up like headless chickens anyway.

We'll see after some time.

At the end we might have been headless chickens on Palutena too, so anything is possible.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

If it weren't for the angle, positioning, face similarities (although granted, it does actually look like Chrom's face now that I see it.) and trolling in the other parts of the pic, and it being April Fool's, I'd call it a likely legit leak. Somehow.

I'm sure that guy is laughing pretty hard at us though, because most of us ended up like headless chickens anyway.

Well, if the guy doesn't come out if the closet tomorrow, then I doubt that it's an April Fools Joke.

 

[Zhadgon]

So here is my crazy theory, how about the picture of Chrom is legit but everything else is shady, let me explain you take from your computer this image of Chrom then you search for a photo in the internet or take a picture from a friend's house, then with photoshop you put the image in the televisor you add the hand and finally put a book of photography near it, why would it be a book there without a purpose, I can think its only one purpose is to say "do not care about the background, the real image is the photo everything else is fake", then upload the image in the internet.
.n_n.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

Well, if the guy doesn't come out if the closet tomorrow, then I doubt that it's an April Fools Joke.

Poor reasoning. April Fools joke or not, would you admit to this being a fake after having watched us argue about it all day. He'll string this out until we either get a real picture of Chrom's model, or the game is released and Chrom ain't in it. No way will he call this when it has the potential to be another Palutena - the dude is a douche, as the picture confirms with the middle finger.

 

[Kon]

That doesn't show lighting from left to right, more so for up and down.... so yeah, just had to point that out.

Good point you make there. I've taken a look at that place and you're right, this really looks strange.

To be honest I don't really matter if the Chrom "leak" is true or not as he is one of the characters I definitely expect. (Chrom or Lucina are the likely FE choices)

Speaking of the Palutena "leak", I don't want to say it's 100% true, but I'll keep in mind the possibility she may be in. (I would prefer Medusa over Palutena, but that's just me)

 

[The Real Gamer]

I'm surprised so many people think this might be real...

1) This was released on freaking APRIL FOOLS DAY
2) Very convenient that the guy only took a face shot instead of taking a photo of his entire body.
3) Also very convenient that the background is bland as ****.
4) If he actually has the game/footage or whatever why only show off one photo?
5) The finger is a dead giveaway that this isn't meant to be taken seriously. We're being teased.

Marking this one down as another very well made fake just like the Palutena one.

EDIT: Scratch that last comment... The Palutena one is much more believable and could still be real. This one is clearly a fake.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Poor reasoning. April Fools joke or not, would you admit to this being a fake after having watched us argue about it all day. He'll string this out until we either get a real picture of Chrom's model, or the game is released and Chrom ain't in it. No way will he call this when it has the potential to be another Palutena - the dude is a douche, as the picture confirms with the middle finger.

I know my reasoning sounds dorky, but I'm a college student, and cannot go on a full scale hunt for matching artwork on Deviant Art, and I'm waiting for either conformation by Nintendo, or the guy who did this.

 

[xxEliteAlicexx]

Good point you make there. I've taken a look at that place and you're right, this really looks strange.

To be honest I don't really matter if the Chrom "leak" is true or not as he is one of the characters I definitely expect. (Chrom or Lucina are the likely FE choices)

Speaking of the Palutena "leak", I don't want to say it's 100% true, but I'll keep in mind the possibility she may be in. (I would prefer Medusa over Palutena, but that's just me)

Thank god someone finally noticed that it didn't look right. lol But seriously, that's the weird thing about Crom's photo is that the sky changes color left to right when it's suppose to be up and down. Also I wouldn't mind if he was in the game, both him and Palutena can help with my machinima. =]

 

[EmbersToAshes]

I know my reasoning sounds dorky, but I'm a college student, and cannot go on a full scale hunt for matching artwork on Deviant Art, and I'm waiting for either conformation by Nintendo, or the guy who did this.

I put little to no faith in this guy deconfirming the image - he'll be getting far too much of a kick from watching everybody argue over it. I can just see it becoming the next Palutena until officially addressed in a PoTD when something rules it out - which is a damn shame considering this image has little going for it when compared to the Palutena pic. There are far too many inconsistencies to give it any validity, and it's April Fools release all but condemns it.

 

[Piks]

Hey uh, Embers, do you ever consider you're taking this too seriously?

This image is a parody of other smash leaks. The middle finger is tounge-in-cheek. He has a photography book obscuring the screen, it's making fun of how leakers can never take a clear picture. He has a poster of the bloody Irate Gamer and Other M. I really doubt the creator wanted people to fall for it at all. It's supposed to be an obvious april fools joke, yet here you guys are dissecting it as if it were meant to be taken seriously.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

Hey uh, Embers, do you ever consider you're taking this too seriously?

This image is a parody of other smash leaks. The middle finger is tounge-in-cheek. He has a photography book obscuring the screen, it's making fun of how leakers can never take a clear picture. He has a poster of the bloody Irate Gamer and Other M. I really doubt the creator wanted people to fall for it at all. It's supposed to be an obvious april fools joke, yet here you guys are dissecting it as if it were meant to be taken seriously.

I have nothing better to do than take fake leaks seriously dude

And really, it's all we have to talk about today, considering it's still a viable leak - we may as well dissect the hell out of when it's all we've got leak wise today.

 

[Piks]

Haha, yeah, true. Might as well talk about it while it's here. It's certainly interesting.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Hey uh, Embers, do you ever consider you're taking this too seriously?

This image is a parody of other smash leaks. The middle finger is tounge-in-cheek. He has a photography book obscuring the screen, it's making fun of how leakers can never take a clear picture. He has a poster of the bloody Irate Gamer and Other M. I really doubt the creator wanted people to fall for it at all. It's supposed to be an obvious april fools joke, yet here you guys are dissecting it as if it were meant to be taken seriously.

You gotta admit though, that for a fake, Chrom's 3D model is really well-made.

 

[Katy Parry]

Hey uh, Embers, do you ever consider you're taking this too seriously?

This image is a parody of other smash leaks. The middle finger is tounge-in-cheek. He has a photography book obscuring the screen, it's making fun of how leakers can never take a clear picture. He has a poster of the bloody Irate Gamer and Other M. I really doubt the creator wanted people to fall for it at all. It's supposed to be an obvious april fools joke, yet here you guys are dissecting it as if it were meant to be taken seriously.

This, like, a million times.

And wtf is this skin

 

[APC99]

I currently don't believe this Chrom leak.

But gosh darn it, it's beautiful. Props if it's fake, because it does look like it belongs on a Wii U. It's just the context of a room, alongside the man flipping the bird, and the smoother appearance close-up makes me have doubt.

 

[S_B]

And Palutena can't be playable because...?

Because no one is going to lure me back into that discussion, ever.

 

[Shun_one]

The design on his armor is wrong.

 

[egaddmario]

The design on his armor is wrong.

Smash isn't canon- in Pikmin 2, Olimar didn't have the buttons or patches on his suit, but in Brawl he does.

 

[Pazzo.]

Glad people are realizing that we've all been the fools of a joke. A good joke, but a joke none the less.

 

[TheAnvil]

If someone was to do a legit leak of an in-game shot, you think they'd shoot at least 2 photos. That's why the Palutena leak was so credible from the get go.

Clearly, shooting like 5-10 shots or video would probably raise some eyebrows and draw some potentially unwanted legal attention.

 

[lightdasher]

Guys, it's fake.

 

[Shun_one]

Smash isn't canon- in Pikmin 2, Olimar didn't have the buttons or patches on his suit, but in Brawl he does.

The design on this Chrom's armor is less complex than the original. I am just pointing this out.

 

[Deleted member]

Where'd this clearer image come from?

 

[lightdasher]

From the person who faked it.

 

[Deleted member]

That literally tells me nothing.
Don't be cute.