SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Vintage Creep]

Shulk has been in only one game so not a good idea.

----> Ice Climbers

I ****ing hate bad written leaks.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

Shulk has been in only one game so not a good idea.

----> Ice Climbers

I ****ing hate bad written leaks.

I'd love Shulk, and I'd be advocating his addition even more had he been announced to play some role in Monolith Soft's X. However, without details on that, and only one game in his library, he may not be recognizable enough. That, and I worry he'd play too similarly to the Fire Emblem reps. Personally, I'm not a fan of sword-wielding fighters at all. I very rarely played as Marth, Ike or Roy.

 

[Luigi#1]

How the hell is that proof that she's in it looks different. Leak looks better, skin tone is off, overall straps are different lengths.
Nobody listens anyways. I want Palutena, and hope this leak is true, but it seems off.

 

[Z25]

Fake leaks are okay IMO, but not when they happen each and every day. thisthreadusedtobequiet



Dear Diary, today I revealed the Cucco Assist Trophy, I had chicken for dinner in celebration. I began recording my lines for King Dedede, I don't English very well, but I hope I nailed "Dat Dhere Kirby." Miyamoto stopped by again to make fun of me. He's such a bully, but I'll show him, all the Mario characters will still be low tier except for Geno. "laughs" Iwata still won't stop calling me every hour to tell me that the fate of the company is in my hands. I told him to name it the "Super Wii" but no he chose listen to Reggie instead. Speaking of which, he sent me another petition for him to be in the game. It's getting annoying at this point, I mean I already told him that Bandai Namco already called dibs with Bravoman. I want to tell him there's no room left, but I know his body isn't ready and it was already hard enough telling Kojima no to Snake. It's days like this that make me glad I waited for the Ridley reveal. It's going to read "A top Pyrosphere, an old enemy ambushes Samus. He's too big to be playable, but Ridley appears nonetheless." "laughs" Tomorrow is going to be so much fun.

Lol, this probably exactly how he thinks.

Billy was cut because of lack of vehicle ideas. You're thinking of motorcycles and more than one character in a car.
Besides, Smash can't really be compared to a racing game.

How dare they cut billy for such a stupid reason!

Now onto the leaks, that new one is cool, but the stage ideas are cool. As for that Layton idea lol, nintedno is involved in a big conspiracy.

 

[Vintage Creep]

I'd love Shulk, and I'd be advocating his addition even more had he been announced to play some role in Monolith Soft's X. However, without details on that, and only one game in his library, he may not be recognizable enough. That, and I worry he'd play too similarly to the Fire Emblem reps. Personally, I'm not a fan of sword-wielding fighters at all. I very rarely played as Marth, Ike or Roy.

He can have very different moves, but that depends on Sakurai. For Sakurai, Falcon and Ganondorf battle the same.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

He can have very different moves, but that depends on Sakurai. For Sakurai, Falcon and Ganondorf battle the same.

If he were to ditch sword combat that'd be great - but that's just personal preference. Also, kinda doesn't work too well when he'd be Xenoblade's rep.

Sadly, I just don't see him getting in with just the one game, as you said.

 

[Vintage Creep]

If he were to ditch sword combat that'd be great - but that's just personal preference. Also, kinda doesn't work too well when he'd be Xenoblade's rep.

Sadly, I just don't see him getting in with just the one game, as you said.

Have you played Xenoblade? Why would he fight without the Monado?
Would you like to see Link fighting without sword and shield? Come on.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

Shulk is from one of the most highly rated Nintendo games of all time. That's got to count for something, right? Yes, Shulk does have a sword, but the manado is quite different from any other sword I've seen.

 

[DraginHikari]

It gives Shulk a consideration that will prevent most people from dismissing him entirely when he appears in Leaks. Other then that not much in the way of evidence going for or against him so he's just a possiblity.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I remember when the Brawl roster was leaked on NeoGaf, the leakers confirmed their source with a mod, who then backed them up. Couldn't we do something like that here? Either One_4_U gives proof of his source privately to the mods, or he shuts up. You guys CAN be trusted, right?

I doubt we'd be able to confirm it publicly and I'm sure Nintendo reps would be in here within hours of it happening, interrogating us about who leaked it and what their info was (since we have access to IPs and all that jazz). Nintendo's cracked down harder on leaks in recent years and if even major fan sites like Serebii are intimidated the idea of releasing stuff early, it probably wouldn't be in a our best interest to either.

 

[Snagrio]

The topic here. It is forever fleeting.

Seriously guys this belongs in the Shulk thread.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

Have you played Xenoblade? Why would he fight without the Monado?
Would you like to see Link fighting without sword and shield? Come on.

That's what I'm saying. Chances are one way or another we'd have the Monado, as it's his most recognizable combat form. For me, from a personal preference, sword wielding characters just haven't done it for me in the past. That's not to say with a few tweaks it couldn't be very different this time round, of course. I'd still love to see Shulk make the game, with Xenoblade being my most memorable game of the past 10 years.

Edit: Yeah, sorry, no more Shulk chat.

 

[Luigi#1]

[sighs.] we will never find the

 

[Snagrio]

Undoubtedly just the paranoia talking, but watch the Cucco leak actually be legit and we'll never know about it. The one that got away...

 

[Liggli]

Search didn't bring up anything of interest more than this: http://smashboards.com/threads/official-character-discussion-thread.347464/page-45#post-16326205

There aren't any old posts in "SSB4 Rumours and Leaks" about 'cucco', so I don't think there ever was any.

 

[Luigi#1]

Search didn't bring up anything of interest more than this: http://smashboards.com/threads/official-character-discussion-thread.347464/page-45#post-16326205

There aren't any old posts in "SSB4 Rumours and Leaks" about 'cucco', so I don't think there ever was any.

We went over this. There are tons of ways to spell it, and the leak apparently spelled it wrong.

 

[Vintage Creep]

If it was posted on Gamefaqs, they delete the topic, so it probably disappeared forever.
It's kinda useless anyway, the Cucco prediction wasn't exactly as bold as Wii Fit Trainer.

 

[Luigi#1]

If it was posted on Gamefaqs, they delete the topic, so it probably disappeared forever.
It's kinda useless anyway, the Cucco prediction wasn't exactly as bold as Wii Fit Trainer.

Don't even bring that debunked leak up.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Don't even bring that debunked leak up.

What are you talking about?

 

[Substitution]

What are you talking about?

I think you've struck a nerve.

 

[Luigi#1]

What are you talking about?

Sorry, thought you were referring to leaky 3.

 

[S_B]

He can have very different moves, but that depends on Sakurai. For Sakurai, Falcon and Ganondorf battle the same.

Shulk = Gannondorf clone, confirmed.

 

[swordbreaker]

I doubt we'd be able to confirm it publicly and I'm sure Nintendo reps would be in here within hours of it happening, interrogating us about who leaked it and what their info was (since we have access to IPs and all that jazz). Nintendo's cracked down harder on leaks in recent years and if even major fan sites like Serebii are intimidated the idea of releasing stuff early, it probably wouldn't be in a our best interest to either.

Nintendo would have no right to force you to reveal who gave you the info. Whoever posted it could be forced to take it down however.

 

[Luigi#1]

Looking at the pic of the day, Mario's overall strips are off. And his stance is also off....

Look in a mirror and shift between these two positions like Mario does. Look, nobody will listen because hey, it's Palutena. You could slap Ridley's model in a pic, nobody objects and it is defended tenfold.

 

[SlickWylde]

Let's move on from the Cucco leak guys haha. I'm pretty sure someone just said "Hey, wasnt there a leak with Cuccos?" and everyone just assumed he was right without any acual knowledge of one. Unless some of you guys actually saw it. It also could have been a joke. People have jokingly predicted POD's many times on this very thread.

@ Luigi#1 , I see what you're saying, but the angle and distance are completely different, and Mario usually moves his hands back and forth. I personally don't believe the Palutena pic, but I don't think that pic disproves it.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Looking at the pic of the day, Mario's overall strips are off. And his stance is also off....

Look in a mirror and shift between these two positions like Mario does. Look, nobody will listen because hey, it's Palutena. You could slap Ridley's model in a pic, nobody objects and it is defended tenfold.

I have not a clue what's supposed to be wrong with this picture. Anyone got a video of the idle animations from Brawl?

 

[MasterofMonster]

Mario moves a lot when not moving (that sounded contradictionary, but I'm sure you know what I mean), and yeah, that looks a lot like one of his hand motions me makes.

I'd say Today's pic(s) is a LOT in Palutena's favour. Glad to have you even more "confirmed" (for me), Palutena~

 

[Luigi#1]

It just resembles Luigi's idle position more than Mario's.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

I have not clue what's supposed to be wrong with this picture. Anyone got a video of the idle animations from Brawl?

As much faith as I have in the Palutena leak, I can't help but think that Mario is far too sharp in the image - the characters have been noticeably more jagged in Sakurai's shots. As far as the comparison above goes, however, could Mario not be simply in a different frame of the idle animation, hence the shadowing and positioning differences?

 

[Luigi#1]

I know he moves alot, but what I'm saying is the leaky one looks more like a circular motion.

As much faith as I have in the Palutena leak, I can't help but think that Mario is far too sharp in the image - the characters have been noticeably more jagged in Sakurai's shots. As far as the comparison above goes, however, could Mario not be simply in a different frame of the idle animation, hence the shadowing and positioning differences?

It's something that I can't really show. You'd have to in vision Mario shifting like that. Mario's hand is never side ways like that, it's always up and down.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

This video has Mario's idle animations around the 30 second mark, and remember that all characters switch up their idle animation every once in a while.

Edit: Thank Smash Wiki

 

[EmbersToAshes]

Looking at that, I'd say both the official and Palutena pic fit the idle animation pretty perfectly.

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

As much faith as I have in the Palutena leak, I can't help but think that Mario is far too sharp in the image - the characters have been noticeably more jagged in Sakurai's shots. As far as the comparison above goes, however, could Mario not be simply in a different frame of the idle animation, hence the shadowing and positioning differences?

Take a look at this picture:

Rosalina looks a lot sharper than Zelda because she's closer to the screen. Mario in the Palutena pic probably looks sharper than normal because he's extremely close up. Also he probably looks less jagged because of the blur from the camera. There are some spots that you can still kinda see jagged edges (most noticeably on his forehead and overalls).

 

[Luigi#1]

This video has Mario's idle animations around the 30 second mark, and remember that all characters switch up their idle animation every once in a while.

Edit: Thank Smash Wiki

I do not see where his hand is in the exact position I am looking for. Close but not quite.
EDIT:

The hand here is facing the screen more than it should.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

Take a look at this picture:

Rosalina looks a lot sharper than Zelda because she's closer to the screen. Mario in the Palutena pic probably looks sharper than normal because he's extremely close up. Also he probably looks less jagged because of the blur from the camera. There are some spots that you can still kinda see jagged edges (most noticeably on his forehead and overalls).

Hadn't seen that shot before. Seems to tally in quality with the Palutena leak pretty consistently. Chances are it's just a distance issue then.

@ Luigi#1
Could that not just be down to the fact that we're comparing a video in motion to a still image? It's much harder to pick out a single frame to compare side by side from a video with a static image. From how close it comes in the video, I'd hazard saying that if we were to tear the video into frames you'd find the same positioning.

 

[BluePikmin11]

If the PoTD says anything, we might have picture leaks of playable characters with no outlines.

 

[MasterofMonster]

Yeah, I am deffinatively (spelled hat wrong) sure about Palutena now. Thank you, guys. Or, Girls. Possibly both.

Can't wait to see her in motion.

 

[Snagrio]

Also, while obviously not drastically different, I'm sure Mario's idle animation here isn't precisely like it was in Brawl. So put that into account as well.

 

[Luigi#1]

@ Luigi#1
Could that not just be down to the fact that we're comparing a video in motion to a still image? It's much harder to pick out a single frame to compare side by side from a video with a static image. From how close it comes in the video, I'd hazard saying that if we were to tear the video into frames you'd find the same positioning.

I doubt there is like 5 miliseconds where he changes his position entirely. Unless Mario has a twitching problem.
@ Snagrio , I am comparing to Developer's direct.

 

[BADGRAPHICS]

For the Palutena leak to be fake, a few things would have to be true:

1. A full perfect-looking Palutena model with textures was created solely for the leak.
2. Mario's Smash Bros. model was also perfectly recreated.
3. The leaker perfectly recreated the Battlefield background, guessing parts that hadn't yet been seen.
4. Somebody went to a lot of trouble to just troll the community.

Of course, all those things could be true, but it's so much more likely that the leak is real.