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Dark Phazon

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That's a damn sexy leak, though there are a (very) few disappointments in there.

Wouldn't mind at all if it was true, but I don't put any stock in it. He did at least correctly predict Little Mac, but that's not hard to do.
Also Waluigi. Well that wasent hard either really...but yh....its still something.
 

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All this down-talk towards K.Rool. He's still the main villain, regardless of the fact if some company doesn't want him to be. Who else? The ****ing viking walrus that no one can remember because it was down right stupid?

Or you know what, those tiki masks were SO COOL. Yea-no. K.Rool should always be associated as the main villain, regardless of how many other **** tier choices they throw out.

Going off topic, but I'll always act bitter how they try to snub off King K.Rool. Don't be mad because Rare made a better villain than you ever will Retro.

As for the Fire Emblem talk: I'd rather see a character who isn't a pretty boy and uses a sword. The game is diverse as hell. Putting only sword users in makes the game look limited and **** tier.
Thanks for disrespecting Retro's work here. :p

Can we look for leaks now please?
 

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All this down-talk towards K.Rool. He's still the main villain, regardless of the fact if some company doesn't want him to be. Who else? The ****ing viking walrus that no one can remember because it was down right stupid?

Or you know what, those tiki masks were SO COOL. Yea-no. K.Rool should always be associated as the main villain, regardless of how many other **** tier choices they throw out.

Going off topic, but I'll always act bitter how they try to snub off King K.Rool. Don't be mad because Rare made a better villain than you ever will Retro.

As for the Fire Emblem talk: I'd rather see a character who isn't a pretty boy and uses a sword. The game is diverse as hell. Putting only sword users in makes the game look limited and **** tier.
The company that doesn't want him to be is Nintendo. :p
 
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Thanks for disrespecting Retro's work here. :p

Can we look for leaks now please?
People are looking for leaks. And I'm disrespecting their **** villain choices in their DK work. To be fair, I was fine with the viking idea. The masks still were stupid as hell to me.

Yeah, I definitely disrespect their work though. I only own and have ranked DKCR in my top five 3DS games, and enjoy their work. That's how it works, right?



Oh.. wait..
 
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Going off topic, but I'll always act bitter how they try to snub off King K.Rool. Don't be mad because Rare made a better villain than you ever will Retro.
Yikes, calm down. There are a several direct references to K. Rool in Tropical Freeze. Nobody hates him. I love K. Rool as much as the next guy, but people need to stop making up these fake conspiracies against him and the Kremlings. It's ridiculous. It's like me losing my **** because Retro didn't put Ridley in Prime 2 or Hunters and saying "NINTENDO AND RETRO HATE RIDLEY, DARK SAMUS WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD OF A VILLAIN AS RIDLEY".

Yeah, the Tikis and Snowmads weren't what people were wanting, I get that. But Retro wanting to do their own thing doesn't make them automatically hate K. Rool.
 
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Yikes, calm down. There are a several direc t references to K. Rool in Tropical Freeze. Nobody hates him. I love K. Rool as much as the next guy, but people need to stop making up these fake conspiracies against K. Rool and the Kremlings. It's ridiculous. It's like me losing my **** because Retro didn't put Ridley in Prime 2 or Hunters and saying "NINTENDO AND RETRO HATE RIDLEY, DARK SAMUS WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD OF A VILLAIN AS RIDLEY".
You act as if I didn't know.
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAABnUYnlyZwyag


On the topic of leaks/rumors, thought this was a pretty neat find. The main image was already addressed but to further the point.

 

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Palutena? Like Gardevoir?

If Sakurai skipped out on making her, a fan favorite worldwide, a playable character just to turn her into a Gardevoir assist trophy, I'll lose all faith in that man's ability to interpret anything ever again, and the hype would just instantly die.

**** that.
So passionate about your generic goddess for a franchise with three games that does not match that of F-Zero or Donkey Kong for a new rep. Oh, how I feel awful for you. Give me one reason why she should be included over a new F-Zero character, and recency or "people want her" doesn't count. And I swear to God if you say the word female...
 

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So... IDK if this is strictly on-topic or not, but does anyone have links to/archives of the "true" Brawl/Melee leaks? I've seen references to them, but as I was not around pre-Brawl or Melee I don't have links to them myself.
Yessss I would love to see some of these. Gives us a sort of "template" to go off of
 

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So passionate about your generic goddess for a franchise with three games that does not match that of F-Zero or Donkey Kong for a new rep. Oh, how I feel awful for you. Give me one reason why she should be included over a new F-Zero character, and recency or "people want her" doesn't count. And I swear to God if you say the word female...
...Because when the hell was the last time F-Zero was relevant again?

They don't need another rep. Hell, only reason Captain Falcon is still relevant is by far because of FALCAWWWWWWWN PAWWWWWWUUNCH,, not F-Zero. Be happy the guy with the bandanna is an assist trophy. Could just replace him with Funky Kong tbh.

But as said, I posted a picture earlier that helped support the "generic goddess" leak.
 

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"people want her"
Because Megaman, Sonic, and Little Mac totally didn't get in because of fan requests.

Palutena is the go-to Kid Icarus rep. We don't know if KI is getting another rep, but it's certainly more likely than F-Zero getting one. I'm not Palutena's biggest fan, but you're just instigating and being a **** about it.
 
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Guys, take the K. Rool discussion to the K. Rool thread if you wish to continue it. And please, stop making me laugh by insinuating that he's anywhere comparable to Geno beyond "people wanting them in Smash." Geno was a one-game one-off side character whose meme requests got out of control (he was basically the Reggie of pre-Brawl), and is as dead as a doornail. K. Rool is his franchise's main villain whose requests have grown since Melee, and could reappear in any of the inevitable upcoming DK games even if he's not in Smash.
 
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So passionate about your generic goddess for a franchise with three games that does not match that of F-Zero or Donkey Kong for a new rep. Oh, how I feel awful for you. Give me one reason why she should be included over a new F-Zero character, and recency or "people want her" doesn't count. And I swear to God if you say the word female...
Yes, because clearly someone who made a support thread for TORTIMER knows what they're talking about as far as reps for Smash go. You should've been my go-to guy all along! Oh, my word, how could I have been so blind?!
 

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Yes, because clearly someone who made a support thread for TORTIMER knows what they're talking about as far as reps for Smash go. You should've been my go-to guy all along! Oh, my word, how could I have been so blind?!
Okay I'm sorry.
Maybe I'm missing something, but why is making a thread about someone a legit excuse to disbelieve?
Why, cause it's Tortimer? Nope, still don't see it.

Or are just gonna push all this off as well?
 

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Okay I'm sorry.
Maybe I'm missing something, but why is making a thread about someone a legit excuse to disbelieve?
Why, cause it's Tortimer? Nope, still don't see it.

Or are just gonna push all this off as well?
I remember him making the thread to support Tortimer the day he was confirmed as a background element.

Either that, or he was a day off.
 

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I remember him making the thread to support Tortimer the day he was confirmed as a background element.

Either that, or he was a day off.
But what does that have to do with Palutena?

So what? He made a thread. We do that all the time.
Heck, I have a thread for Mudkip. And I'm fully aware of his slim chance.
 

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*looks at thread spiraling into chaos*

Oh god... what have I done...

I don't know about you guys but I'm ready for another major AT/pokeball reveal to further knock out some of these rumors. Surprisingly, we've actually gone a week and half without an update relating to a specific character at all and we're definitely due.
 
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But what does that have to do with Palutena?

So what? He made a thread. We do that all the time.
Heck, I have a thread for Mudkip. And I'm fully aware of his slim chance.
Well, you see, I was saying that he was talking about reps that are more relevant than Palutena, so I used his support thread for Tortimer to show that he doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to reps.
 

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So passionate about your generic goddess for a franchise with three games that does not match that of F-Zero or Donkey Kong for a new rep. Oh, how I feel awful for you. Give me one reason why she should be included over a new F-Zero character, and recency or "people want her" doesn't count. And I swear to God if you say the word female...
Because she was in a game that was important enough to showcase as a launch title to the 3DS, incase you missed it, while F-Zero hasn't had a new game in 11 years. 11. It also had 4 games to Kid Icarus' 3.... huge difference. Kid Icarus, by the way, was show cased as a main franchise along with Donkey Kong, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Pokemon in the E3 Smash trailer. Where was Captain Falcon for the trailer, by the way?

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LAST F-Zero game (GX) - 650,000 sold.
Kid Icarus Uprising - 1,120,000 sold.

So there. (I actually do want a new F-Zero rep as well as Palutena, but facts are facts.)
 
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Well, you see, I was saying that he was talking about reps that are more relevant than Palutena, so I used his support thread for Tortimer to show that he doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to reps.
Okay, that doesn't mean crud. And you know that.
Why does it matter? He made a support thread. What's the big deal?

I mean, with that logic, I guess I shouldn't either.
Apparently since I like Mudkip, I shouldn't be one to speak.
Or heck, what about fans of Waluigi, or Daisy? Guess they have no say either. I mean, since we're idiots when it comes to reps.

See how ridiculous this sounds?
 

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Okay, that doesn't mean crud. And you know that.
Why does it matter? He made a support thread. What's the big deal?

I mean, with that logic, I guess I shouldn't either.
Apparently since I like Mudkip, I shouldn't be one to speak.
Or heck, what about fans of Waluigi, or Daisy? Guess they have no say either. I mean, since we're idiots when it comes to reps.

See how ridiculous this sounds?
But you didn't make the support thread the day your character was deconfirmed. Neither did anyone else.

Anyway, I can see this has quickly become an irrelevant discussion, so let's just drop it.
 

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I really want to start a thread talking about the sales of different games as it pertains to Smash after looking up those F-Zero and Kid Icarus numbers, and looking up Xenoblade earlier. Off topic, I know, but where should I put that, in character discussion? What should I title it?

I don't think anyone has discussed a leak in like 3 pages.
 

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But you didn't make the support thread the day your character was deconfirmed. Neither did anyone else.

Anyway, I can see this has quickly become an irrelevant discussion, so let's just drop it.
I'll just say these last words.
What's the deal? Why is it that big of a deal that he made one?
I don't see evidence, I see an excuse. All I see is "ad hominem". You just attack his threads instead of focusing on the matter.
The actual conversation.

But hey, what do I know? Apparently you're the keen expert when it comes to reps.
I apologize for wasting your time, why not argue with someone who has real experience unlike we "peasants".

I don't know about you guys but I'm ready for another major AT/pokeball reveal to further knock out some of these rumors. Surprisingly, we've actually gone a week and half without an update relating to a specific character at all and we're definitely due.
I'm just waiting for a newcomer.
That'll be fun. We can play Bingo with which leaks are knocked out of the ball-field.
 
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About F-Zero, I said it once, i'll say it again:

Regardless of F-Zero's status as a series, I don't really think it needs anyone else besides Falcon on the account of A. it being a racing series and B. whose playable representative had to have his entire moveset made up.

It's a series that, under any circumstances, I just feel is fine with its one character. Similar to how I feel with Pikmin, AC, Yoshi, and Wario.
 
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Let's try to keep it on topic here guys. Take character discussion to the threads made for it.

Talk about leaks.
 

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Did the person that actually posted the Palutena pics say anything about them? or was it a hit and run kind of thing?
 

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So... IDK if this is strictly on-topic or not, but does anyone have links to/archives of the "true" Brawl/Melee leaks? I've seen references to them, but as I was not around pre-Brawl or Melee I don't have links to them myself.

I don't think this has been addressed yet.
 

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Did the person that actually posted the Palutena pics say anything about them? or was it a hit and run kind of thing?
It was a hit and run, but that doesn't really point towards it being fake. There are still big factors that point towards it having a rather decent chance at being real. It's an incredibly consistent picture.
 
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I like the spellcaster from Fire Emblem idea. I love the series and I'm fine with it only being swordsmen (I mean, all the main lords are swordsmen/women), but a magic user would be cool. I guess it would, as stated above, probably have to be Robin. What would he/she look like though? (character is customizable) I guess they would have to use the generic look. Regardless, it would be interesting.
 
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