SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Hinata]

I never got why people wanted Geno. He seems so irrelevant. But then again, I never played Mario RPG far enough to see Geno.

 

[DraginHikari]

I agree, I don't think K. Rool is anything like Geno. Geno is not only third party, but he was never actually important. He is a one off character that barely mattered in the game he was in... it's like people getting pissed Yuffie didn't make it into Dissidia. I was just pointing out that K. Rool isn't a shoe in character.

That's entirely understandable, there really isn't a such thing as a 'shoe-in' newcomer in general anyway. There's just a range of character with varying degree of chance from possible to unlikely to not a chance in hell.

 

[Jackson]

True... Geno is cool, but he was a one and done. We probably won't see him again, not to mention he's a square Enix license.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I was insinuating they were comparable, not exactly the same. Of course there are still major differences between them but I feel like the way the Geno fanbase acted about Geno back in the Brawl days is very similar to the way the K. Rool fanbase acts about K. Rool now. As Spazzy suggests, I don't think anyone should be accepted as an absolute shoe in and, speaking from experience, doing so only makes your final destination a pile o' butthurt if things don't play out in your favor.

 

[Jackson]

^ lol, final destination.

Sorry.

 

[Spazzy_D]

I really, really, want some final Smashes revealed soon so we can debunk some rumors. The Villager Bee FS (it's in some rumor, right?) I feel is just a random fan idea that people grabbed and ran with to the point that people just accepted it.

As far as characters go, my top 5 pre-E3 were Megaman, Little Mac, Ridley, An Animal Crossing Rep and a KI: Uprising Rep, so I'm pretty happy with the new comers already. Sure, a few characters like Shulk or Takamaru would make me happy...but I think I'll be happy with whatever we get.

 

[Jackson]

I really, really, want some final Smashes revealed soon so we can debunk some rumors. The Villager Bee FS (it's in some rumor, right?) I feel is just a random fan idea that people grabbed and ran with to the point that people just accepted it.

As far as characters go, my top 5 pre-E3 were Megaman, Little Mac, Ridley, An Animal Crossing Rep and a KI: Uprising Rep, so I'm pretty happy with the new comers already. Sure, a few characters like Shulk or Takamaru would make me happy...but I think I'll be happy with whatever we get.

Xenoblade was by Nintendo, right?

 

[Hoots]

While this character discussion isn't really on topic, I'll echo the on topic point that it's pretty ridiculous to dismiss rumors for being "too safe." Every single character who was a "safe" "shoe-in" for Brawl made it. Every single character that people thought should have been in Melee was in Brawl. If the pattern continues (and I hate the reliance on "muh patterns!" but this is still relevant), then it's fair to assume we'll see a fair amount of obvious choices. We've already seen it with Villager, Megaman, and Little Mac. However, I still have a feeling that Sakurai is going to throw in at least one more shock character, so I'd imagine the real leak will include one or two of those.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Xenoblade was by Nintendo, right?

Yup, Xenoblade is 100% owned by Nintendo. I honestly think that a big part of Shulk getting in would be dependent on whether or not X is a direct sequel to Xenoblade (or at least set in the same universe) or just a "spiritual successor."

 

[egaddmario]

Yup, Xenoblade is 100% owned by Nintendo. I honestly think that a big part of Shulk getting in would be dependent on whether or not X is a direct sequel to Xenoblade (or at least set in the same universe) or just a "spiritual successor."

In the original X trailer, you do see Shulk for a split second at the end. So i think that helps his chances significantly.

 

[Fatmanonice]

In the original X trailer, you do see Shulk for a split second at the end. So i think that helps his chances significantly.

This and the fact he's absurdly popular in Japan. I'd honestly hate for him to get in before Issac/Matthew but I could totally see that happening anyways.

 

[Kapus]

I never got why people wanted Geno. He seems so irrelevant. But then again, I never played Mario RPG far enough to see Geno.

People can want a character for far more reasons than being simply relevant or recent (moveset potential, unique designs, or simply having an attachment to the character).

Also, Geno played a major role in Super Mario RPG and was probably the most important original character created for that game.

 

[N. Onymous]

This and the fact he's absurdly popular in Japan. I'd honestly hate for him to get in before Issac/Matthew but I could totally see that happening anyways.

Xenoblade's a very popular game worldwide though.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Xenoblade's a very popular game worldwide though.

That's debatable. It's highly praised (which keeps it from being completely obscure) but it's still considered more of a cult classic more than anything else outside of Japan. Xenoblade is off to a hell of a start as a separate franchise from the Xeno series though.

 

[egaddmario]

Xenoblade's a very popular game worldwide though.

And the game's still like $53 from Gamestop. Worth the price though. And i've barely had a chance to dive in- i'm only at Colony 6.

 

[DraginHikari]

That's debatable. It's highly praised (which keeps it from being completely obscure) but it's still considered more of a cult classic more than anything else outside of Japan. Xenoblade is off to a hell of a start as a separate franchise from the Xeno series though.

To be fair much of it's cult classic pheonomen in NA is a result of Nintendo's haphazard handling of it release and how quickly the price skyrocketed because Nintendo made too few shipments of the game.

 

[Jackson]

Yeah, I wanna play it, but it's like 60 dollars used. Just a bit excessive.

 

[Spazzy_D]

This and the fact he's absurdly popular in Japan. I'd honestly hate for him to get in before Issac/Matthew but I could totally see that happening anyways.

Xenoblade sold FAR more in North America then in Japan. (More then double, in fact)

 

[egaddmario]

Xenoblade sold FAR more in North America then in Japan. (More then double, in fact)

Operation Rainfall OP

 

[BluePikmin11]

Cool why are we being off-topic?
Also, if Sakurai is going to represent masterpieces like Mother, Shulk better be playable.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Xenoblade sold FAR more in North America then in Japan. (More then double, in fact)

North America has more than 3 times Japan's population so it's not a perfect comparison.

 

[Spazzy_D]

North America has more than 3 times Japan's population so it's not a perfect comparison.

The game was also a limited print in the US, and Japan does in fact have many games that sell over a million (Final Fantasy 13 sold 1.87 million) in the country, so selling about 160k is not "absurdly popular." Anyway, we were off topic, but this is getting a little TOO off topic.

 

[Senselessbreak]

Spoiler

How did we miss Snake's Confirmation?

Hint: When you see it.......

 

[egaddmario]

Spoiler

How did we miss Snake's Confirmation?

Hint: When you see it.......

1/10, made me look.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Spoiler

How did we miss Snake's Confirmation?

Hint: When you see it.......

It's fake. Just a clever photoshop trick

 

[MasterofMonster]

Ugh. That's... that's not even a 'try'.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Try playing for Bingo over the course of multiple "leaks," rather than waiting for one to come along that happens to 'X' out enough of the boxes in one sitting.

I think the game will be out before that happens.

 

[OhHeyDJ]

That was probably the most pathetic attempt at a 'leak' I've seen in a while. I've been lurking around this thread for a while too. *sigh*

 

[Substitution]

Spoiler

How did we miss Snake's Confirmation?

Hint: When you see it.......

...I get it!...

 

[Dark Phazon]

I don't think there's anything arguable about it. You don't see "Metroid Stages Without Lava" support threads with 10,000+ replies. The Smashers make the Smash. If the game had a flawless roster, I'd be fine with a bunch of generic fighting game-esque stages with lackluster music.

The GAMEplay makes the GAME its what is gonna matter in the long run and the online mode.

This game will be played for years not months or weeks.

 

[Hinata]

That was probably the most pathetic attempt at a 'leak' I've seen in a while. I've been lurking around this thread for a while too. *sigh*

Call it a hunch, but... I don't think that 'leak' was meant to be taken seriously.

That is, if we're talking about the one Senseless just posted.

 

[HatsuneMiku]

Spoiler

How did we miss Snake's Confirmation?

Hint: When you see it.......

Pacman deconfirmed oh nuuuuu

 

[Inawordyes]

Anything of note in the last 30 pages?

 

[Robert of Normandy]

So... IDK if this is strictly on-topic or not, but does anyone have links to/archives of the "true" Brawl/Melee leaks? I've seen references to them, but as I was not around pre-Brawl or Melee I don't have links to them myself.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Just more fake leaks Inawordyes. Nothing new and notable.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Anything of note in the last 30 pages?

Just really obviously fake gamefaqs.com leaker and a whole lot of being off topic.

 

[viewtifulduck82]

lol double-double post
Anyways, why is it okay to claim recency as a reason to include Chrom, but it's okay to say K.rool gets in just because? Personally, i think these boards puts too much stock in recency. This is supposed to be a game for nintendo's all stars, not the newest kids on the block, ya feel me? This is way I don't take recency as a factor at all when reading through these leaks. It's such a fickle argument.

 

[egaddmario]

lol double-double post
Anyways, why is it okay to claim recency as a reason to include Chrom, but it's okay to say K.rool gets in just because? Personally, i think these boards puts too much stock in recency. This is supposed to be a game for nintendo's all stars, not the newest kids on the block, ya feel me? This is way I don't take recency as a factor at all when reading through these leaks. It's such a fickle argument.

While i agree, Fire Emblem Awakening saved the series from demise- http://www.gamespot.com/articles/st...s-saved-the-series-cancellation/1100-6408782/

Chrom is not only relevant but important to the series given this.

EDIT: Sidenote, i love his character and thought his struggle was much more heartbreaking and "believable" than Ike's. I'd much rather see Chrom than Ike, but I would like to see them both. Granted, my opinion means nothing...

 

[Dropkick JD]

All this down-talk towards K.Rool. He's still the main villain, regardless of the fact if some company doesn't want him to be. Who else? The ****ing viking walrus that no one can remember because it was down right stupid?

Or you know what, those tiki masks were SO COOL. Yea-no. K.Rool should always be associated as the main villain, regardless of how many other **** tier choices they throw out.

Going off topic, but I'll always act bitter how they try to snub off King K.Rool. Don't be mad because Rare made a better villain than you ever will Retro.

As for the Fire Emblem talk: I'd rather see a character who isn't a pretty boy and uses a sword. The game is diverse as hell. Putting only sword users in makes the game look limited and **** tier.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

As for the Fire Emblem talk: I'd rather see a character who isn't a pretty boy and uses a sword. The game is diverse as hell. Putting only sword users in makes the game look limited and **** tier.

There is Robin(both male and female, whatever you prefer) who is much more different both from a character design point view and abilities since he/she also uses magic.