SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Lolo Lolo]

by the way I found this
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/54475/t1993996-last-informations/

it looks like our old leaker is back for the last time

 

[Z25]

That game faqs rumor is interesting. Also be prepared to see shadow in this months direct as I could totally see it happening based on the supposed leak website picture especially with no yoshi.

 

[MasterofMonster]

We're talking Mii here, not Reggie.

... Um, I know, I meant that when you said 'both of you', it was similar to when Reggie thankes "Both of you" for liking the Wii name. It was a joke.

@ Lolo Lolo
Yeah, not believeing that one. ^^

 

[BluePikmin11]

When Ridley is a stage hazard he only shoots fireballs because when he is playable Goyagma does the same thing , so the hazard is the same .

Since Palutena is playable she uses the old Pit's final smash and he uses the three sacred treasures

Masahiro wanted to make King K Rool playable due to fans' requests but then he changed his mind (I don't know why) ,now we are trying to convince him to make KKR at least an assist trophy

Pokemon Stadium 3 is the only Wii U Pokemon stage and the five types which appear are fairy ,dark ,bug ,poison and steel

Miiverse is a stage on both Wii U and 3DS ,it's like the Pictochat without drawings and with SSB Miiverse community drawings

Nintendo Land is on Wii U ,you fight on the top of the tower

Masahiro decided to make Dillon playable and Tempo an assist trophy

Mallo does the same thing Piplup did in Super Smash Bros Brawl

SR388 is on 3DS ,you fight on the surface of the planet and sometimes the Queen Metroid arrives from the background and tries to eat the characters

I am not going to post any other informations , I hope you believe me
goodbye

Also, if true..

Second ,Masahiro does not care about rumors because he knows there are a lot of them and that if one is true nobody will belive it ,so I can write these informations without risk much .

This is the community in a nutshell, and Sakurai was trolling with the Palutena statue.

 

[Mdilly99]

That game faqs rumor is interesting. Also be prepared to see shadow in this months direct as I could totally see it happening based on the supposed leak website picture especially with no yoshi.

What are you talking about?

 

[Lolo Lolo]

@ Lolo Lolo
Yeah, not believeing that one. ^^

Me neither but it's funny seeing how this person puts so much emphasis in this

 

[DiZ0X]

true but i guess with a 3rd party it would be a lot different y would u add an item from franchise u don't own then not represent it.and will admit i forgot that item lol.

That's understandable. (A bit off-topic but I like the pic, Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire is my all time favorite series.)

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But anyways, if we look at the current leak on GameFAQs, it does kinda go with the "Sound Guy" leak (minus the Diddy release date) in that Takamaru and Chibi-Robo are playable. Pardon me if other leaks include them, this is the one I remember and I feel too lazy to check...

 

[majora_787]

I'm late as usual, but "innocent until proven guilty" is really just not a great way to handle leaks and will only make you unhappy with the game if you take literally every last leak seriously until it is proven false with wrong dates, or by character confirmations/deconfirmations, or worst case scenario, the game's release. "innocent until proven guilty" seems like a mentality kind of exclusive to people who believe the Palutena leak, and I feel kind of bad for them because "innocent and proven guilty" is going to have them with a pretty significant number of expectations that are all / nearly all just going to be absolutely shattered.

And while I believed the E3 leak, I no longer do and am done being a massive hypocrite on the matter.

 

[Miffa]

That's understandable. (A bit off-topic but I like the pic, Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire is my all time favorite series.)

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But anyways, if we look at the current leak on GameFAQs, it does kinda go with the "Sound Guy" leak (minus the Diddy release date) in that Takamaru and Chibi-Robo are playable. Pardon me if other leaks include them, this is the one I remember and I feel too lazy to check...

I know a lot include takamaru but I not sure about chibi robo too much.

 

[RelaxAlax]

Nevermind, I was talking abotu thte E3 leak but we've passed that topic already

 

[fill]

anybody see some of the reddit posts regarding #freessbb ?, not sure if this should go here or in the snake section, but anyways the general idea /rumor being thrown around is that the reason brawl was not allowed in MLG is because of third party issues. So people are saying theres a problem with either sega or konami allowing it, people are leaning towards the konami side so maybe theres also a tie into snake not being in smash4. anyways disregard if it sounds like bs but i just thought i'd drop it here

 

[Fatmanonice]

What characters from previous games would you say are unsafe?

Hmm... for veterans I'd argue that "unsafe" characters have at least 2 of following characteristics in most peoples' eyes:

1. Have doubts cast on them because of things said in interviews. (eg; Snake, Ice Climbers, Pokemon Trainer)
2. Have doubts cast on them because they share similarities with previously cut characters (eg; Lucas, Wolf, Ike)
3. Have doubts cast on them because of only being in one game (Brawl's newcomers)
4. Have doubts cast on them because of relevancy (eg; Sheik, Ike, Pokemon Trainer)
5. Have doubts cast on them because of things shown/said in the pics of the day (eg; Shiek)

These are all debatable, of course, especially with how much they actually mean in the grand scheme of things or even at all. For example, the Ice Climbers are a great example of this. Sakurai mentioned complications in programming them way back in August but now we have Rosalina who is argued to be much more complicated as a character. Another example is Ike. Despite not starring in a game in roughly 6 years, he's still a very popular character and even heavily referenced in Awakening. Yet another example is Lucas in category 2. 5 of the 6 characters cut in Brawl could be described as "clones" but will this same standard be used in SSB4, especially with Toon Link already making the cut? Just some food for thought.

 

[Marakatu]

That game faqs rumor is interesting. Also be prepared to see shadow in this months direct as I could totally see it happening based on the supposed leak website picture especially with no yoshi.

"Leaked" website pictures are very easy to make. Here, I just made this.

Spoiler

 

[BluePikmin11]

by the way I found this
http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/54475/t1993996-last-informations/

it looks like our old leaker is back for the last time

When Ridley is a stage hazard he only shoots fireballs because when he is playable Goyagma does the same thing , so the hazard is the same .

Since Palutena is playable she uses the old Pit's final smash and he uses the three sacred treasures

Masahiro wanted to make King K Rool playable due to fans' requests but then he changed his mind (I don't know why) ,now we are trying to convince him to make KKR at least an assist trophy

Pokemon Stadium 3 is the only Wii U Pokemon stage and the five types which appear are fairy ,dark ,bug ,poison and steel

Miiverse is a stage on both Wii U and 3DS ,it's like the Pictochat without drawings and with SSB Miiverse community drawings

Nintendo Land is on Wii U ,you fight on the top of the tower

Masahiro decided to make Dillon playable and Tempo an assist trophy

Mallo does the same thing Piplup did in Super Smash Bros Brawl

SR388 is on 3DS ,you fight on the surface of the planet and sometimes the Queen Metroid arrives from the background and tries to eat the characters

I am not going to post any other informations , I hope you believe me
goodbye

No one is interested in this leak?

 

[M23-X0]

No one is interested in this leak?

"now we are trying to convince him to make KKR at least an assist trophy" <- fake. In his first post he said that only his friend is working on SSB (bingo), and now he talk about "we".

Moreover, he speaks too well for being a japanese.

 

[MasterofMonster]

Me neither but it's funny seeing how this person puts so much emphasis in this

Of course. XD I just meant, too many things sounds 'bad' in this one, haha. But leaks and rumors are Always interesting. Even when fake, some do have interesting ideas.

 

[the smash nerd]

"now we are trying to convince him to make KKR at least an assist trophy" <- fake. In his first post he said that only his friend is working on SSB (bingo), and now he talk about "we".

Moreover, he speaks too well for being a japanese.

Wth is KRR

 

[Mypantisgone]

Wth is KRR

King K.Rool.

 

[the smash nerd]

King K.Rool.

ooh.

 

[MasterofMonster]

Wait, how is K R R = King K. Rool? Shouldn't it be KKR?

 

[gamiac2002]

"It doesn't have a character I want, so I don't believe it. However, any character I don't want is a wasted slot."
Really?

Oh, and I can't tell if this guys is serious or not. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68795020
-Someone else just posted it-

Interesting. This is the second leak that mentions Zoroark being a Pokeball item that uses a transformation ability. Might have to keep an eye out for this.

 

[ihskeyp]

Mii's in leaks make me angry. what's he gonna do? use bowling balls and boxing gloves and golf clubs? oh wait- there are already characters who do that...
Also I really don't believe in any leaks from gamefaqs, I think they've proven themselves untrustworthy. but I guesss if a real leaker ever does decide to go there we've got to keep an eye out...

 

[KaBlamJamDan]

In order for me to believe a leak...

"I'm a play tester!": Must explain every newcomer moveset in good detail, don't miss anyone ( EX: The leaker forgot Villager or WFT ), at least mention a item we haven't seen (EX: "Fan got a redesign btw" ) and talk about a stage and how they play.

"I'm a translator!": Must tell us the stage name and character (No misspells), and don't mention any behind the scenes stuff that a real translator wouldn't know (EX: "Altus recommend that Sakurai should put in Jack Frost for Eastern fans").

"I work at Nintendo!/My friend work at Nintendo!": Automatic debunk.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Mii's in leaks make me angry. what's he gonna do? use bowling balls and boxing gloves and golf clubs? oh wait- there are already characters who do that...
Also I really don't believe in any leaks from gamefaqs, I think they've proven themselves untrustworthy. but I guesss if a real leaker ever does decide to go there we've got to keep an eye out...

They can also carry themselves with this:

Who wouldn't love to recover from the battlefield like this.

 

[DiZ0X]

They can also carry themselves with this:

Who wouldn't love to recovery from the battlefield like this.

I think that'd be brilliant, actually.

 

[Z25]

"Leaked" website pictures are very easy to make. Here, I just made this.

Spoiler

Still you can see how fake the set up in this one(the art and the fact that no one knows who this is as I have never seen them bought up before, I do get your point though), shadow's is at least a bit better and has somewhat of a chance. Plus who wouldn't want him, he would kill all the bad leaks in the op and be a good addition in my opinion.

 

[ihskeyp]

They can also carry themselves with this:

Who wouldn't love to recover from the battlefield like this.

I just don't see them happening since Villager stole some of their possible moveset, but that shouldn't be discussed here so I'll get back on topic. I don't like leaks with miis but I wouldn't complain (too much) if we got them.

 

[Extrain]

Mii's in leaks make me angry. what's he gonna do? use bowling balls and boxing gloves and golf clubs? oh wait- there are already characters who do that...
Also I really don't believe in any leaks from gamefaqs, I think they've proven themselves untrustworthy. but I guesss if a real leaker ever does decide to go there we've got to keep an eye out...

The only leak I believe (partly aside from Palutena leak) is the "Brawl-era" leaker, who is from gamefaqs, simply because what he did leak was not much (save for K.Rool and Ridley), and actually mentioned things the average leaker would not. In terms of information, it sounds realistic for the fact the information wasn't "pouring" information. Just a little bit, kind of like Chaos_Zero's (also from gamefaqs).
I'd really like to see which website had the most correct leakers after the game is out... It makes me curious as to where a smash fan would most likely go if they really did want to leak information.

 

[BKupa666]

No one's talking about the NeoSeeker thing? Okay, I will. It's yet another one of those "I am Sakurai's lover and know exactly what he's thinking about making these characters playable and these ones Assist Trophies and yadda yadda" "leaks." Best not to put too much stock in it.

I mean, for Chrissakes, the premise of the initial rumor is that someone pissed in his friend's Lucky Charms and made him angry to the point where he just let all that information fly to his buddy. I mean, really?

 

[Sonic Poke]

@ Fatmanonice : What does Sakurai said about Pokemon Trainer in a intreview?

 

[N. Onymous]

Probably the whole multiple characters on screen issue if I had to guess, due to his/their Final Smash. In any case, Rosalina proves it isn't a problem anymore.

 

[praline]

Waluigi is the best character to represent spin-off games (which are very popular and sell a lot)
and I think he's a lot better than Rosalina

That's the funniest thing I ever heard.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Two new leaks:
http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235531007/#235565805

Hello everyone, I am here with exciting new.

I have the list of all available newcomer. Here, enjoy!

Takamaru
Isaac
Shulk
Chrom
Crono
LLoyd Irving
Vyse


enjoy the game

http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235569184/#235569184

I have some information about the new Smash Bros. and I won't tell you who told me that, but I can tell you (100% sure) that :
- a Mario newcomer CGI trailer has been purchased and created, no idea who it is as both Bowser Jr. and Toad appeared in it (with Mario, Princess Peach, Toad of many colors and Bowser in Peach's castle from Mario 64 but with lava, etc.)
- a Tingle CGI trailer has been purchased and finished, which is likely to be revealed way before E3 as Tingle isn't popular in the West (just my opinion)

No idea about who the other newcomers are so don't ask. I guess Bowser's Castle (or Peach's Castle) is a new stage. Sorry/Have a good day.

 

[andalsoandy]

Two new leaks:
http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235531007/#235565805


http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235569184/#235569184

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Two new leaks:
http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235531007/#235565805


http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235569184/#235569184

Wow the first one screams fake. The second one at least was creative... but still.... fake.

 

[Z25]

Wow the first one screams fake. The second one at least was creative... but still.... fake.

1st one I like but vyse chrono and lyod that is almost impossible. As for the second one it seems possible and makes sense, plus it's short which has that going for it.

 

[BindingBlade]

More Mario. Yay.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Two new leaks:
http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235531007/#235565805


http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235569184/#235569184

1st one: A second SEGA character? A Square Enix character from a franchise that Square Enix themselves want to stay dead?

2nd one: What the hell does he mean "purchased"?

For both: Hardy Har HAR!

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Two new leaks:
http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235531007/#235565805


http://archive.foolz.us/v/thread/235569184/#235569184

First one is an obvious fake. Someone trying to be different then other leakers, but being a bit too absurd..

Second one is interesting but looks fake.

 

[ToothiestAura]

Isn't the expression innocent until proven guilty?

Yes, that is the expression. But it is rather difficult to say whether "innocent" in the case of leaks means real or if it means fake.

Probably the whole multiple characters on screen issue if I had to guess, due to his/their Final Smash. In any case, Rosalina proves it isn't a problem anymore.

That doesn't make sense. PT's Final Smash is not him controlling all three characters at once, it's an attack by all three characters. It's just an animation of all three together. AT that point it isn't even one character because you have no control over them. Ice Climbers are the cause of a lot of programming pain in Smash, it isn't anything new I'm sure. Yeah, Rosalina seems more complicated than the Ice Climbers anyway, so that should put that to bed.