SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

[Motor Bug2005]

A couple of users on GameFAQs are now claiming that the Palutena "leak" is fake because of the blacking out of characters' underskirts (only on the Wii U version mind you) and because of the design of her dress is slightly revealing, it would have to be redesigned.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

A couple of users on GameFAQs are now claiming that the Palutena "leak" is fake because of the blacking out of characters' underskirts (only on the Wii U version mind you) and because of the design of her dress is slightly revealing, it would have to be redesigned.

HAHAHAHA are you kidding me? thats totally unfounded. They have no reason to think that. other than being extremely pessimistic.

 

[Protom]

A couple of users on GameFAQs are now claiming that the Palutena "leak" is fake because of the blacking out of characters' underskirts (only on the Wii U version mind you) and because of the design of her dress is slightly revealing, it would have to be redesigned.

To revealing?
...
What? That's what plautena was like in uprising and brawl. There was no problem there...

 

[Curious Villager]

inb4 people start posting upskirt screenshots of Peach and Zelda or something just to counterargue..... Please don't.

Eh, not sure how much that argument holds value, really....

 

[BKupa666]

GameFAQs thought Dedede's introductory picture was photoshopped. Best to not take any 'analysis' of theirs into consideration.

 

[papagenos]

Everyone seems to be ignoring this guy's post. So i will reiterate
you do not know what happened with nintendo's plans during the week before e3
you do not know if the man was tipped with 100% accurate information on who will get into sm4sh, or only 66-82% accurate information
you do not know if the man was actually tipped by someone with information at all.

This topic has the potential to be argued to the end of days, with or without the next two character reveals, so just stop trying to argue a point that is obviously in the air as it is.
If you don't want the leak to be true because of character reveals, winning in argument online will do nothing to stop these reveals if they are true.
If you think the leak is true, then wait until all of the characters are revealed to make your point, because people will still list the absence of these characters as counterpoints until they are (supposedly) all revealed and there's little reason to argue the point any more.

good points but this is a leaks thread...arguing over their validity is basically the fun of this.

 

[Motor Bug2005]

To revealing?
...
What? That's what plautena was like in uprising and brawl. There was no problem there...

I found it just as ridiculous as you did. It just shows the level of straw clutching some people on that forum resort to doing.

 

[SmashChu]

You're jumping to all sorts of conclusions. There is no way that you can figure out what position the leaker held from the information that was given. Don't be silly.


Well this is just false. He never recanted and said they were pushed back. What are you talking about? The original post was a "speculative post" about what Nintendo would show reveal. Later, after WFT was revealed, he posted an article saying 3 of the 6 he was tipped off about have been revealed and the other 3 have yet to be shown. Later, on the last day of E3 he registered here and made a post explaining exactly what his source told him and the circumstances around the reveal. There was no recant. He simply expounded and said that his source said barring an impromptu change. Which FYI does actually happen.


Again you're jumping to all sorts of conclusions here. You don't know when Sal got his information. He could have received it 2 months before E3. Meaning that unless you know when Sal was tipped off, or exactly what the position of the leaker is you're making assumptions that will lead to incorrect conclusions. In fact Sal says this:



So we know he held on to the information for an indeterminate time. We know he wasn't sure so he said nothing when he initially received it. We know he then posted it the day before E3. We do NOT know when he got the information and how outdated it may have been by the time he posted it. Again, it's entirely possible that little mac wasn't ready to be shown so when they cut the trailer they just decided to have placeholder graphics for the stage in the interim. You don't even know if the graphics for the stage were done! They literally could have just completed it. If you look at the original reveal and the stage now you'll notice a lot more differences.



Uh huh...

By god it's happened. I have found the most convoluted post ever made.

Not going to waste much on this post since it's all over the place. Your arguments basically boil down to "You're making assumptions. You must be wrong." You'd be better off attacking the logic of the assumptions rather than say "YOU CANT ASSUME THINGS!" Your stance seems to be that it's right until proven wrong. You seem to lack any kind of reasonable suspicion.

The reason this is false is the Taxes Sharpshooter fallacy. Basically, you're making patterns where there is none. The guy has had to change a lot. It was originally a forum prediction and then it was "I had a source." He originally said they were to be shown at E3 and later said they must have been pushed back. Even the people who though that this rumor was baloney (like myself) knew Little Mac was going to happen because EVERYONE thought Little Mac was going to happen. '

I might make another post on it in the future.

 

[SlickWylde]

good points but this is a leaks thread...arguing over their validity is basically the fun of this.

Very true! My original point (I'm the guy he quoted) was that people were basically just saying the same things over and over again. If you don't have anything new to add, there's no point in making the same statement (Which is kinda what I'm doing now, so I won't post about this anymore lol)

It was just frustrating to see like, 10 pages of people saying the same thing, it was devolving into this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YICGahHlHHU#t=31

 

[powerprotoman]

found a leak on gamefaqs by cookiefonster

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68577757

A few weeks ago a friend told me that from here on out a newcomer would be revealed at a Direct every month until release, and that all newcomers would be revealed prior to the game's release. I didn't believe him but he said that Little Mac would be in February and look what happened. According to him, this is their current schedule:

March - Palutena (will coincide with the two-year anniversary of Uprising)
April - Chrom (will coincide with the 24th anniversary of the original Fire Emblem and the second anniversary of Awakening)
May - Isaac
June (E3) - Pac-Man (Mewtwo will also be featured here, albeit without a full newcomer trailer)
July - Dixie Kong
August - Wonder Red (will coincide with the one-year anniversary of The Wonderful 101)
September - Takamaru
October - The Prince of Sable
The final newcomer will be Kamek, who will be announced during a special countdown presentation during the 24 hours prior to the game's launch, which is currently slated for November 2nd across the globe.

Snake is the only Brawl character not returning, bringing the final roster to 49 characters aside from transformations. Ridley is the much-hyped stage hazard on Pyrosphere, and Shulk, K. Rool, Lucina, King Hippo, Waluigi, and Dillon are all ATs. Miis are not playable but appear in one stage in each version (the already revealed Find Mii stage on the 3DS version, and a Mii Plaza stage on Wii U). Isaac will have a moveset that revolves around the Djini, and Prince of Sable's moveset will include the ability to transform into both a frog and a snake, neither of which can be used permanently for the entire battle, nor selected at the beginning of a battle, and thus are not considered to be full transformation characters a la Sheik or Zero Suit Samus. Pac-Man appears in his modern form, however for his dash animation his arms and legs disappear and he appears to move floating in the air in classic style.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

found a leak on gamefaqs by cookiefonster

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68577757

A few weeks ago a friend told me that from here on out a newcomer would be revealed at a Direct every month until release, and that all newcomers would be revealed prior to the game's release. I didn't believe him but he said that Little Mac would be in February and look what happened. According to him, this is their current schedule:

March - Palutena (will coincide with the two-year anniversary of Uprising)
April - Chrom (will coincide with the 24th anniversary of the original Fire Emblem and the second anniversary of Awakening)
May - Isaac
June (E3) - Pac-Man (Mewtwo will also be featured here, albeit without a full newcomer trailer)
July - Dixie Kong
August - Wonder Red (will coincide with the one-year anniversary of The Wonderful 101)
September - Takamaru
October - The Prince of Sable
The final newcomer will be Kamek, who will be announced during a special countdown presentation during the 24 hours prior to the game's launch, which is currently slated for November 2nd across the globe.

Snake is the only Brawl character not returning, bringing the final roster to 49 characters aside from transformations. Ridley is the much-hyped stage hazard on Pyrosphere, and Shulk, K. Rool, Lucina, King Hippo, Waluigi, and Dillon are all ATs. Miis are not playable but appear in one stage in each version (the already revealed Find Mii stage on the 3DS version, and a Mii Plaza stage on Wii U). Isaac will have a moveset that revolves around the Djini, and Prince of Sable's moveset will include the ability to transform into both a frog and a snake, neither of which can be used permanently for the entire battle, nor selected at the beginning of a battle, and thus are not considered to be full transformation characters a la Sheik or Zero Suit Samus. Pac-Man appears in his modern form, however for his dash animation his arms and legs disappear and he appears to move floating in the air in classic style.

It reeks of so much fakeness that it isn't that funny.

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

I see King Hippo thrown around for AT in these leaks but I can't imagine the Punch-Out!! AT to be anyone but Bald Bull. Both plz sakura :3 ?


Still in all good consciousness I can't believe that we'll get a newcomer a month from now on with the track record of reveals so far.

 

[powerprotoman]

I see King Hippo thrown around for AT in these leaks but I can't imagine the Punch-Out!! AT to be anyone but Bald Bull. Both plz sakura :3 ?


Still in all good consciousness I can't believe that we'll get a newcomer a month from now on with the track record of reveals so far.

same here but you can never take to many chances

 

[GreenReaperGod]

Why did Sable get so popular all of a sudden. 3 of the most recent leaks have had him included.

 

[Simensis]

And so it begins... Get ready for all the "He/she/I knew about little mac being revealed on february but..." stories.

 

[powerprotoman]

Why did Sable get so popular all of a sudden. 3 of the most recent leaks have had him included.

get your tinfoil hats ready cause its a conspiracy

 

[Chiroz]

I am guessing more leaks with Isaac are going to pop up now that Little Mac was confirmed.

Hopefully Isaac is in the game :D.

 

[Gunla]

found a leak on gamefaqs by cookiefonster

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68577757

A few weeks ago a friend told me that from here on out a newcomer would be revealed at a Direct every month until release, and that all newcomers would be revealed prior to the game's release. I didn't believe him but he said that Little Mac would be in February and look what happened. According to him, this is their current schedule:

March - Palutena (will coincide with the two-year anniversary of Uprising)
April - Chrom (will coincide with the 24th anniversary of the original Fire Emblem and the second anniversary of Awakening)
May - Isaac
June (E3) - Pac-Man (Mewtwo will also be featured here, albeit without a full newcomer trailer)
July - Dixie Kong
August - Wonder Red (will coincide with the one-year anniversary of The Wonderful 101)
September - Takamaru
October - The Prince of Sable
The final newcomer will be Kamek, who will be announced during a special countdown presentation during the 24 hours prior to the game's launch, which is currently slated for November 2nd across the globe.

Snake is the only Brawl character not returning, bringing the final roster to 49 characters aside from transformations. Ridley is the much-hyped stage hazard on Pyrosphere, and Shulk, K. Rool, Lucina, King Hippo, Waluigi, and Dillon are all ATs. Miis are not playable but appear in one stage in each version (the already revealed Find Mii stage on the 3DS version, and a Mii Plaza stage on Wii U). Isaac will have a moveset that revolves around the Djini, and Prince of Sable's moveset will include the ability to transform into both a frog and a snake, neither of which can be used permanently for the entire battle, nor selected at the beginning of a battle, and thus are not considered to be full transformation characters a la Sheik or Zero Suit Samus. Pac-Man appears in his modern form, however for his dash animation his arms and legs disappear and he appears to move floating in the air in classic style.

I can already say that we're not getting a newcomer every month if typical schedules for NDs are in order. International Directs only show newcomers, not the every month ones, which are nation-based and are focused only on that nation. Smash is a worldwide game.

Too weak.

 

[majora_787]

And really? Expecting the game to not come out until November? :|

Yeah they need some things worked out with their fake leak-making.

 

[Gunla]

And so it begins... Get ready for all the "He/she/I knew about little mac being revealed on february but..." stories.

Okay, let's be honest here: Unless they saw the mass Next Level Games tweets hours before, they didn't really see it coming, almost no one did. And even then, most people went on a Dixie tangent.

 

[Snagrio]

It was only a matter of time before someone claimed they "knew" about Mac in February before proceeding to throw around the rest of their BS.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Why did Sable get so popular all of a sudden. 3 of the most recent leaks have had him included.

I feel like people pay attention to this forum to see what makes us take pause and what not. And a few of us saw Sable on the first leak and went ''It's just crazy enough to be Sakurai worthy."

So more leakers are starting to include him to look legit most likely.

 

[Luigi#1]

A couple of users on GameFAQs are now claiming that the Palutena "leak" is fake because of the blacking out of characters' underskirts (only on the Wii U version mind you) and because of the design of her dress is slightly revealing, it would have to be redesigned.

People are trying everything to debunk it. Even some Palutena wanters.

 

[Gunla]

To revealing?
...
What? That's what plautena was like in uprising and brawl. There was no problem there...

Revealing? Even for Nintendo, Tuna's outfit in the leak is not very revealing. Brawl's was more revealing, tbh...

 

[Morbi]

It was only a matter of time before someone claimed they "knew" about Mac in February before proceeding to throw around the rest of their BS.

Hey, as someone pointed out prior, Little Mac was an obvious reveal. The reveal was on Valentine's Day, and people tend to eat/give chocolate out on Valentine's Day... and Doc Louis loves Chocolate. It was so obvious! We were just blinded by Donkey Kong propaganda!

 

[Inawordyes]

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Haha, okay, I admit I walked into that one.

Okay, so Little Mac on his anniversary, Diddy coming up possibly soon for the US Release of Tropical Freeze, and even if the leak above is fake, it did get two things right - namely, that Sakurai has indicated that he's going to reveal all the newcomers before release, and that Palutena's reveal could come next month because of the KI anniversary (and we've been speculating that anyways).

 

[Marakatu]

I've just read the theory that the reveal trailer of Little Mac was ready for E3. It's worth noting that Marth and King Dedede appear in the trailer, and they were not revealed until much later.
Sure, the trailer could have been edited since the E3, but I felt like pointing this out.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

found a leak on gamefaqs by cookiefonster

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68577757

A few weeks ago a friend told me that from here on out a newcomer would be revealed at a Direct every month until release, and that all newcomers would be revealed prior to the game's release. I didn't believe him but he said that Little Mac would be in February and look what happened. According to him, this is their current schedule:

March - Palutena (will coincide with the two-year anniversary of Uprising)
April - Chrom (will coincide with the 24th anniversary of the original Fire Emblem and the second anniversary of Awakening)
May - Isaac
June (E3) - Pac-Man (Mewtwo will also be featured here, albeit without a full newcomer trailer)
July - Dixie Kong
August - Wonder Red (will coincide with the one-year anniversary of The Wonderful 101)
September - Takamaru
October - The Prince of Sable
The final newcomer will be Kamek, who will be announced during a special countdown presentation during the 24 hours prior to the game's launch, which is currently slated for November 2nd across the globe.

Snake is the only Brawl character not returning, bringing the final roster to 49 characters aside from transformations. Ridley is the much-hyped stage hazard on Pyrosphere, and Shulk, K. Rool, Lucina, King Hippo, Waluigi, and Dillon are all ATs. Miis are not playable but appear in one stage in each version (the already revealed Find Mii stage on the 3DS version, and a Mii Plaza stage on Wii U). Isaac will have a moveset that revolves around the Djini, and Prince of Sable's moveset will include the ability to transform into both a frog and a snake, neither of which can be used permanently for the entire battle, nor selected at the beginning of a battle, and thus are not considered to be full transformation characters a la Sheik or Zero Suit Samus. Pac-Man appears in his modern form, however for his dash animation his arms and legs disappear and he appears to move floating in the air in classic style.

Playable Wonder Red is sketchy enough, but announcing him on the 1 year anniversary of Wonderful 101?

Nah.

 

[papagenos]

Playable Wonder Red is sketchy enough, but announcing him on the 1 year anniversary of Wonderful 101?

Nah.

well not that i believe this "leak" at all buuuut... little mac was revealed on the 30th anniversary of punch-out!! so anniversaries might actually be worth looking out for again now.

 

[Reila]

found a leak on gamefaqs by cookiefonster

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68577757

A few weeks ago a friend told me that from here on out a newcomer would be revealed at a Direct every month until release, and that all newcomers would be revealed prior to the game's release. I didn't believe him but he said that Little Mac would be in February and look what happened. According to him, this is their current schedule:

March - Palutena (will coincide with the two-year anniversary of Uprising)
April - Chrom (will coincide with the 24th anniversary of the original Fire Emblem and the second anniversary of Awakening)
May - Isaac
June (E3) - Pac-Man (Mewtwo will also be featured here, albeit without a full newcomer trailer)
July - Dixie Kong
August - Wonder Red (will coincide with the one-year anniversary of The Wonderful 101)
September - Takamaru
October - The Prince of Sable
The final newcomer will be Kamek, who will be announced during a special countdown presentation during the 24 hours prior to the game's launch, which is currently slated for November 2nd across the globe.

Snake is the only Brawl character not returning, bringing the final roster to 49 characters aside from transformations. Ridley is the much-hyped stage hazard on Pyrosphere, and Shulk, K. Rool, Lucina, King Hippo, Waluigi, and Dillon are all ATs. Miis are not playable but appear in one stage in each version (the already revealed Find Mii stage on the 3DS version, and a Mii Plaza stage on Wii U). Isaac will have a moveset that revolves around the Djini, and Prince of Sable's moveset will include the ability to transform into both a frog and a snake, neither of which can be used permanently for the entire battle, nor selected at the beginning of a battle, and thus are not considered to be full transformation characters a la Sheik or Zero Suit Samus. Pac-Man appears in his modern form, however for his dash animation his arms and legs disappear and he appears to move floating in the air in classic style.

I don't see Ridley's name among the newcomers, so I am pretty sure it is fake.

That being said, getting one newcomer per month would be absolutastic.

 

[Deleted member]

found a leak on gamefaqs by cookiefonster

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/633202-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u/68577757

A few weeks ago a friend told me that from here on out a newcomer would be revealed at a Direct every month until release, and that all newcomers would be revealed prior to the game's release. I didn't believe him but he said that Little Mac would be in February and look what happened. According to him, this is their current schedule:

March - Palutena (will coincide with the two-year anniversary of Uprising)
April - Chrom (will coincide with the 24th anniversary of the original Fire Emblem and the second anniversary of Awakening)
May - Isaac
June (E3) - Pac-Man (Mewtwo will also be featured here, albeit without a full newcomer trailer)
July - Dixie Kong
August - Wonder Red (will coincide with the one-year anniversary of The Wonderful 101)
September - Takamaru
October - The Prince of Sable
The final newcomer will be Kamek, who will be announced during a special countdown presentation during the 24 hours prior to the game's launch, which is currently slated for November 2nd across the globe.

Snake is the only Brawl character not returning, bringing the final roster to 49 characters aside from transformations. Ridley is the much-hyped stage hazard on Pyrosphere, and Shulk, K. Rool, Lucina, King Hippo, Waluigi, and Dillon are all ATs. Miis are not playable but appear in one stage in each version (the already revealed Find Mii stage on the 3DS version, and a Mii Plaza stage on Wii U). Isaac will have a moveset that revolves around the Djini, and Prince of Sable's moveset will include the ability to transform into both a frog and a snake, neither of which can be used permanently for the entire battle, nor selected at the beginning of a battle, and thus are not considered to be full transformation characters a la Sheik or Zero Suit Samus. Pac-Man appears in his modern form, however for his dash animation his arms and legs disappear and he appears to move floating in the air in classic style.

HAHAHA OKAY SUREEEE.

If you knew Little Mac was going to be announced, why didn't you post this rumor earlier?
Take your crappy rumor out of here and piss off.

(not talking to you, just the OP of the rumor)

 

[Sabrewulf238]

well not that i believe this "leak" at all buuuut... little mac was revealed on the 30th anniversary of punch-out!! so anniversaries might actually be worth looking out for again now.

Sure but I really can't see a 1 year anniversary being noteworthy enough for a reveal.

 

[papagenos]

Sure but I really can't see a 1 year anniversary being noteworthy enough for a reveal.

oh i completely agree.

 

[Reila]

Pac-Man appears in his modern form, however for his dash animation his arms and legs disappear and he appears to move floating in the air in classic style.

The fake leaker is pretty creative, I will give him or her that. I love this idea.

 

[Morbi]

Sure but I really can't see a 1 year anniversary being noteworthy enough for a reveal.

Let us assume that Wonder Red is actually in the game as a playable character, a one year anniversary isn't noteworthy, but when would be a more noteworthy time to reveal Wonder Red? That would be the only overt moment.

 

[Halfhead]

Sakurai has indicated that he's going to reveal all the newcomers before release

What? Where?

 

[Morbi]

What? Where?

I would also like a source on this. I was operating under the assumption that he was going to save the vast majority of newcomers until launch.

 

[Halfhead]

I would also like a source on this. I was operating under the assumption that he was going to save the vast majority of newcomers until launch.

I think the majority might be a little much considering we already have five confirmed (all of which but Mega Man and maybe Rosalina seem playable from the start), but still a good chunk.

 

[Fawke83]

Is it just me, or I have the feeling that at least one franchise is gonna have two newcomers, and not one (in this department, I'm betting on Kid Icarus and/or Fire Emblem)? This is why all the leaks sound fake to me, they spread the love too much, but forget that in every Smash, there was at least two franchises that received not one, but two newcomers (Kirby and Pokémon being the most recent examples).

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Let us assume that Wonder Red is actually in the game as a playable character, a one year anniversary isn't noteworthy, but when would be a more noteworthy time to reveal Wonder Red? That would be the only overt moment.

If he was indeed in, the best and only time to reveal him would have been the release of the wonderful 101 in September, if it would have helped sales (and we know it would have) that's when it would have happened, not a full year after.