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Why can't I hold all this evidence?ALL THIS EVIDENCE
I CAN'T DISPROVE THIS. It all just won't stop adding up...
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Why can't I hold all this evidence?ALL THIS EVIDENCE
I CAN'T DISPROVE THIS. It all just won't stop adding up...
Here you go, good sir.Whos got that mini pic of #TeamReal of Palutena on them. I want it for my sig
Thank you my good man!Here you go, good sir.
A vast majority? A simple majority would imply at least 11 newcommers. A vast majority a considerable amount more then that. I'm inclined to disagree, but I daresay there will be some newcommers that Sakurai doesn't reveal until launch. Any leak that claims otherwise is really stretching it.I would also like a source on this. I was operating under the assumption that he was going to save the vast majority of newcomers until launch.
I was expecting a Phoenix Wright reference instead.ALL THIS EVIDENCE
I CAN'T DISPROVE THIS. It all just won't stop adding up...
Do you have the link?I read an interesting rumor that Ghirahim, (re-reveal) Mewtwo, Palutena, and strangely, the Prince of Sable would be revealed at E3. The rumor stated that Namco-Bandai has one rep, but it's may or may not be Pac-Man and is otherwise unknown. Also, Isaac returns as a playable character and strangely, Roy also makes a return.
Among others, Chrom will be playable. Lucina appears as assist trophy. Ike is not cut, making no female Fire Emblem reps.
Basically, a full roster of newcomers was provided in the rumor:
-Prince of Sable (coincides with some kind of American 3DS promotion- "Sable's Adventure: The Snake Forest or Forest Snake: Adventure of Sable," rough translation)
-Takamaru
-Palutena
-Little Mac
-Rosalina
-Dixie Kong
-Wii Fit Trainer
-Chrom
-Ghirahim
-Isaac
-*Roy
-*Mewtwo
-Ridley
-Villager
-Poo
-Alph (with Rock, Flying, Red, Blue, and Yellow pikmin, as opposed to white and purple)
some other interesting info was posted too like the introduction of a character called "Smash Man"... just something worth noting
This info was posted by someone named Ren on 4chan... idk just something I found. Tell me what you think
I don't deal with lawyers. Then again, I do like PW as a series, but let's be honest, too many of those gifs happen.I was expecting a Phoenix Wright reference instead.
That would make 17 newcomers. Not impossible, and I'd be okay with it, since all of my faves would get in, but it seems awfully steep.I read an interesting rumor that Ghirahim, (re-reveal) Mewtwo, Palutena, and strangely, the Prince of Sable would be revealed at E3. The rumor stated that Namco-Bandai has one rep, but it's may or may not be Pac-Man and is otherwise unknown. Also, Isaac returns as a playable character and strangely, Roy also makes a return.
Among others, Chrom will be playable. Lucina appears as assist trophy. Ike is not cut, making no female Fire Emblem reps.
Basically, a full roster of newcomers was provided in the rumor:
-Prince of Sable (coincides with some kind of American 3DS promotion- "Sable's Adventure: The Snake Forest or Forest Snake: Adventure of Sable," rough translation)
-Takamaru
-Palutena
-Little Mac
-Rosalina
-Dixie Kong
-Wii Fit Trainer
-Chrom
-Ghirahim
-Isaac
-*Roy
-*Mewtwo
-Ridley
-Villager
-Poo
-Alph (with Rock, Flying, Red, Blue, and Yellow pikmin, as opposed to white and purple)
some other interesting info was posted too like the introduction of a character called "Smash Man"... just something worth noting
This info was posted by someone named Ren on 4chan... idk just something I found. Tell me what you think
I did but I lost it, it's definitely on there though. I don't know if you can do some searches of something. His/her name was Ren.No matter how convincing any leak is, I won't believe it until I see it.
Do you have the link?
Who in gods name is "Poo"?I read an interesting rumor that Ghirahim, (re-reveal) Mewtwo, Palutena, and strangely, the Prince of Sable would be revealed at E3. The rumor stated that Namco-Bandai has one rep, but it's may or may not be Pac-Man and is otherwise unknown. Also, Isaac returns as a playable character and strangely, Roy also makes a return.
Among others, Chrom will be playable. Lucina appears as assist trophy. Ike is not cut, making no female Fire Emblem reps.
Basically, a full roster of newcomers was provided in the rumor:
-Prince of Sable (coincides with some kind of American 3DS promotion- "Sable's Adventure: The Snake Forest or Forest Snake: Adventure of Sable," rough translation)
-Takamaru
-Palutena
-Little Mac
-Rosalina
-Dixie Kong
-Wii Fit Trainer
-Chrom
-Ghirahim
-Isaac
-*Roy
-*Mewtwo
-Ridley
-Villager
-Poo
-Alph (with Rock, Flying, Red, Blue, and Yellow pikmin, as opposed to white and purple)
some other interesting info was posted too like the introduction of a character called "Smash Man"... just something worth noting
This info was posted by someone named Ren on 4chan... idk just something I found. Tell me what you think
That leak is so intense that it removed Mega Man from the game.I read an interesting rumor that Ghirahim, (re-reveal) Mewtwo, Palutena, and strangely, the Prince of Sable would be revealed at E3. The rumor stated that Namco-Bandai has one rep, but it's may or may not be Pac-Man and is otherwise unknown. Also, Isaac returns as a playable character and strangely, Roy also makes a return.
Among others, Chrom will be playable. Lucina appears as assist trophy. Ike is not cut, making no female Fire Emblem reps.
Basically, a full roster of newcomers was provided in the rumor:
-Prince of Sable (coincides with some kind of American 3DS promotion- "Sable's Adventure: The Snake Forest or Forest Snake: Adventure of Sable," rough translation)
-Takamaru
-Palutena
-Little Mac
-Rosalina
-Dixie Kong
-Wii Fit Trainer
-Chrom
-Ghirahim
-Isaac
-*Roy
-*Mewtwo
-Ridley
-Villager
-Poo
-Alph (with Rock, Flying, Red, Blue, and Yellow pikmin, as opposed to white and purple)
some other interesting info was posted too like the introduction of a character called "Smash Man"... just something worth noting
This info was posted by someone named Ren on 4chan... idk just something I found. Tell me what you think
Isn't Poo a monk?Everyone's favorite scatologically named samurai might be in Smash? Cool!
Its the great mighty Poo!Oh god why
I just searched Poo in google.
I guess I should have been more specific.
My new sig right there.Oh god why
I just searched Poo in google.
I guess I should have been more specific.
This should be a reminder to everyone, "Think before you search."Oh god why
I just searched Poo in google.
I guess I should have been more specific.
Im pretty sure megaman was in the original. weird, but I will look for the leak linkThis should be a reminder to everyone, "Think before you search."
Now, when it comes to that new leak, no Megaman = fake.
And from what it seems, he just appears to be an Olimar clone except with 2 different pikmin.This leak is silly. I really don't think they'd make Alph playable.
digging up a real old fake arnt weSo, I just wanted to put this image out here and discuss into detail of Ness being in SSB4, which would be quite obvious, unless he was replaced with Ninten (from Mother) or Lucas (from Mother 3).
If you truly look at the photo, you can see a lot of ways to prove it's real, and fake.
Fake:
Ness's shirt is slightly off.
The blurryness can be debunked, it's on 3DS, not Wii U.
The shadow under jigglypuff is too vague, ness doesn't even have a shadow.
Real:
The red collar is actually part of Ness's design, look at the old clay models/artwork of ness from mother 2, he does have a red collar.
The outline is exactly what is shows to be in gameplay on 3DS.
Every shadow I've seen so far of characters are vague circles seen on the ground.
Speculation:
Understand that every Smash game has had redesigns with characters, either the characters are made to closely resemble cartoon style, or made to look just like how they were original made (ex. ness), or made to look realistic.
Leaked images are usually fake, but this image just doesn't seem fake to me (and many others). Ness's artwork was also leaked, which shows exactly what is seen on the model of Ness in the picture. Just remember that Ness is part of the original 12.
Just take a second to look at the artwork of Ness from Earthbound, here is the link.
Ness Earthbound Artwork Link: (Google Images)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Ness_Clay_Model.png
I posted a picture of Ness and Jigglypuff for people to understand what picture I'm looking at.
Pictures:
View attachment 8563
We've murdered this picture 3 times already.So, I just wanted to put this image out here and discuss into detail of Ness being in SSB4, which would be quite obvious, unless he was replaced with Ninten (from Mother) or Lucas (from Mother 3).
If you truly look at the photo, you can see a lot of ways to prove it's real, and fake.
Fake:
Ness's shirt is slightly off.
The blurryness can be debunked, it's on 3DS, not Wii U.
The shadow under jigglypuff is too vague, ness doesn't even have a shadow.
Real:
The red collar is actually part of Ness's design, look at the old clay models/artwork of ness from mother 2, he does have a red collar.
The outline is exactly what is shows to be in gameplay on 3DS.
Every shadow I've seen so far of characters are vague circles seen on the ground.
Speculation:
Understand that every Smash game has had redesigns with characters, either the characters are made to closely resemble cartoon style, or made to look just like how they were original made (ex. ness), or made to look realistic.
Leaked images are usually fake, but this image just doesn't seem fake to me (and many others). Ness's artwork was also leaked, which shows exactly what is seen on the model of Ness in the picture. Just remember that Ness is part of the original 12.
Just take a second to look at the artwork of Ness from Earthbound, here is the link.
Ness Earthbound Artwork Link: (Google Images)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Ness_Clay_Model.png
I posted a picture of Ness and Jigglypuff for people to understand what picture I'm looking at.
Pictures:
View attachment 8563
You do bring up some very good points. However, nearly everyone believes this is fake.So, I just wanted to put this image out here and discuss into detail of Ness being in SSB4, which would be quite obvious, unless he was replaced with Ninten (from Mother) or Lucas (from Mother 3).
If you truly look at the photo, you can see a lot of ways to prove it's real, and fake.
Fake:
Ness's shirt is slightly off.
The blurryness can be debunked, it's on 3DS, not Wii U.
The shadow under jigglypuff is too vague, ness doesn't even have a shadow.
Real:
The red collar is actually part of Ness's design, look at the old clay models/artwork of ness from mother 2, he does have a red collar.
The outline is exactly what is shows to be in gameplay on 3DS.
Every shadow I've seen so far of characters are vague circles seen on the ground.
Speculation:
Understand that every Smash game has had redesigns with characters, either the characters are made to closely resemble cartoon style, or made to look just like how they were original made (ex. ness), or made to look realistic.
Leaked images are usually fake, but this image just doesn't seem fake to me (and many others). Ness's artwork was also leaked, which shows exactly what is seen on the model of Ness in the picture. Just remember that Ness is part of the original 12.
Just take a second to look at the artwork of Ness from Earthbound, here is the link.
Ness Earthbound Artwork Link: (Google Images)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Ness_Clay_Model.png
I posted a picture of Ness and Jigglypuff for people to understand what picture I'm looking at.
Pictures:
View attachment 8563
Little late, but Sakurai said the customization would have nothing to do with costumes. It's pretty likely the different colors simply change his appearance. To say the Miis are redundant on a maybe is silly.The Mii is a redundant character. We already have the villager who is already an avatar character and will likely be customizable in both gender and appearance.
When did he say that?Little late, but Sakurai said the customization would have nothing to do with costumes.
I will be pissed if they add another Mother character who isn't Porky. I guess I would except Claus, but I want a mecha rider in Smash. If I can't get Jill can I at least get Porky?No way an Eathbound character that isn't Claus or Pokey/Porkey will be a newcomer.
Yes, Yes someone did.
Out of curiosity, did anyone post this yet?
Previous page, one of the last posts. And then I had this image saying "I can't let you disprove that, BigAxle."
Out of curiosity, did anyone post this yet?
Yeah, I think someone did
Out of curiosity, did anyone post this yet?
I can't even fathom how Sakurai would seriously consider an Olimar clone. It seriously confuses me when 5 Newcomers are already here and only one is a newcomer to an existing series, and we're expecting something from Pikmin over some series like DK or Troid?And from what it seems, he just appears to be an Olimar clone except with 2 different pikmin.
....yay....