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SSB4 Rumours and Leaks

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Banjodorf

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I enjoyed her character in uprising (then again all of them were good, was a great game). Not sure whether she makes sense as a fighter but then again neither does villager, or wii fit trainer or R.O.B or etc.
There was at least that part in Chapter 20, so unlike them, at least she has SOME history of fighting'
 

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So we just ignore his other 11 attacks, 4 throws, how he moves, and how he plays totally differently.

seems legit.
That's what you called Luigified. That's what we refer to as a semi- clone. Maybe you have a different definition, but if so, its not the widely accepted one.

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Besides, if she was an Assist Trophy why would she be sitting their idle like in the first image? She would be moving. The guy who took this photo either paused his game, was in training mode, or was controlling her and took his hands of the system to take a picture.
 

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Besides, if she was an Assist Trophy why would she be sitting their idle like in the first image? She would be moving. The guy who took this photo either paused his game, was in training mode, or was controlling her and took his hands of the system to take a picture.
I'm convinced the first one is fake.
 

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Besides, if she was an Assist Trophy why would she be sitting their idle like in the first image? She would be moving. The guy who took this photo either paused his game, was in training mode, or was controlling her and took his hands of the system to take a picture.
If he paused the game, training mode or otherwise, a display would be there, no? You know, the display in normal mode telling you how to quit the match, or the display showing all the training options in training mode.
 

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I hope Nintendo finds the source of the screenshot and gets rid of it ASAP.

Then we'll know it's for reals.
 

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So we just ignore his other 11 attacks, 4 throws, how he moves, and how he plays totally differently.

seems legit.
Wolf is less of a clone than Yoshi compared to Mario. Seriously, the entire Smash 64 roster have mostly the same 5 aerials, with the exceptions being Ness, Link, and kinda sorta Samus.
 

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Besides, if she was an Assist Trophy why would she be sitting their idle like in the first image? She would be moving. The guy who took this photo either paused his game, was in training mode, or was controlling her and took his hands of the system to take a picture.
The thing is, not all Assist Trophies move. Some just stand in one spot while attacking. Like Hammer Bro.. If this leak just so happens to be real, and Palutena IS in fact, an Assist Trophy, then I think it's safe to assume that she'll be one of the kinds that attack without moving.

Oh, and in reference to your statement that she is idle in the first picture, many other Assist Trophies will stand in an idle pose before attacking.
 

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If he paused the game, training mode or otherwise, a display would be there, no? You know, the display in normal mode telling you how to quit the match, or the display showing all the training options in training mode.
Right. At the very least that would make sense.
I'm convinced the first one is fake.
I don't think the leaker would fake one and then have a real screenshot right next to it. They're either both real or both fake.

The only discrepancy that a few friends brought up to me is that they think she looks too close to the screen as opposed to Mario. But I don't think that's a huge deal.
 

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If he paused the game, training mode or otherwise, a display would be there, no? You know, the display in normal mode telling you how to quit the match, or the display showing all the training options in training mode.
I guess, but in pause if I remember correctly, in a regular match you can remove them to show them. Either way though, the second an assist trophy comes out they are moving in some way. Palutena is clearly stationary and has no movement what so ever. At least with Ashley she has her armed raised as if she is about to cast a spell.

Also, in training mode you can set it so characters don't move. He then zoomed in-game camera and took the shot
 

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When I read "Not a semi clone, I imagine they share close to none of that. Three specials (and a final smash) still shows he was added to be partly his own, and partly an alternative to Fox.

Seriously though, one person's semantically understanding of "semiclone" doesn't belong in this discussion.
You're ignoring his normal moves, but yeah, this should not be discussed here.
 

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Am I missing something here? This looks just like the Brawl trophy rigged to a character as a mod with the second trinket from the top right edited, which isn't hard because they're flat 2D images. :/
But where did they get the different pose from?
 

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I hope Nintendo finds the source of the screenshot and gets rid of it ASAP.

Then we'll know it's for reals.
They did that with the Jigglypuff, Lucario, and Ness thing, lololol (although they did it in one of their trailers, lol!).

That's the only reason why I wanted a Sticker update (video). :smirk:
 

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Ignoring the fact that Sakurai wanted Diddy paired with Dixie in Brawl? It's certainly interesting he might want to retread the idea, but Sakurai's a weird guy. Besides, based on what the "leak" says, they'd switch with down-B and their movesets would be different. I don't think it'd be THAT drastic of a change.

"I'm just not feeling K. Rool" isn't a valid reason to doubt potential information. While I'm skeptical about a leak I'm actually satisfied by, and will remain so, history shows that Sakurai enjoys DKC fanservice.

Wolf WAS a semi clone. Blaster, angled illusion, reflector, a semi-clone of Fox does make.

Look, whether or not you believe the "translator leak", we'll have a pretty good idea if the guy knows his stuff on Feb.13th.
I feel I've said my piece on the Diddy/Dixie thing, I don't want to get into an argument over it as I'm sure some people would love it. I just think it's an idea that'd take the same amount of work to make them separate characters, but severely insulting to fans of the characters. I just can't see it getting past the "concept" stage.
K. Rool has been in 2 party games in the past 15 years. When he wasn't in the first DKCR it wasn't a good sign, and he doesn't appear to be in Tropical Freeze either. Although if he somehow turns out to be in it, then I think his chances shoot right up. And don't get me wrong here, he's one of my most wanted characters. I personally want 2 new DK reps.
Wolf is as much of a Clone of Fox as Ike is of Marth.

I'd guess that they'll reveal Dixie on the next direct as a solo character, and Diddy to coincide with the reveal of Tropical Freeze.
 

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She looks so detailed though, and even then putting outlines on Assists would be really strange and distracting. Can't thus entirely believe she'd be an Assist.
 

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I like that translator leak.

K. Rool, Mac, Palutena...

PLEASE be true...
No Ridley = No Dice. Add Ridley to it, and I'll jump aboard as a supporter of it, even if it has Chromeric, even with the God awful idea of teaming Diddy and Dixie (tournament banned IMO).
Compared to Mario, she looks unpolished.
I compared it to Rosalina, and she looks similarly unpolished.

Honestly, the game is maybe 10 months away, so it's not surprising.
 

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When I think "Semi clone" I think specials. If Ganon had fully unique specials, he wouldn't feel like a Captain Falcon clone.

The point is that the guy who did the translator leak and I probably have the same thoughts when it comes to clones.

Hell, all alot of casual players have to do to think clone is Final Smash, and even Ganon has that over Wolf.

If anything, it just means Wolf may get more unique than he already is.

February 13th can't come fast enough...

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The same leak had Ridley playable in it, so I didn't think I needed to mention, hah!
 

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Finally made it through countless pages. I think its real, not just as a Palutena fan. At this point I feel like I'm just reiterating past posts, but I will say it anyway. If this is fake then someone put way too much time into this for…..some reason…..personal enjoyment?
 

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You do have a point. If the screenshot is indeed real, wouldn't Nintendo delete it by now?
Its probably best that they dont do anything if they want to keep it a secret. If they address one leak, they have to address them all to avoid suspicion, otherwise it proves its legitimacy
 
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