Zivilyn Bane
Smash Master
Drew is in our crew, and probably the youngest. Although I think you're right he's not 16, but he's like 17 isn't he?
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Springfield, MO discussion thread
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Zantetsu
Smash Master
I forgot about Drew.. but yeah, he's 17.
arbustos
Smash Journeyman
Prisoner 24601
Smash Rookie
today is my gf's birthday. but uhh im good any other time, when is good for anyone else after today? how often do you meet?
Zivilyn Bane
Smash Master
Our Melee crew meets every Tuesday, and sometimes in between. If Missouri ever has another tournament, we will likely go.
For Brawl, I don't believe they have any kind of set schedule. You would probably just hit Terral up and you guys could arrange a time to play.
For Brawl, I don't believe they have any kind of set schedule. You would probably just hit Terral up and you guys could arrange a time to play.
Wretched
Dankness of Heart
He's gonna come play Melee. C'mon broseph. We'll show you how to be good at a real fighting game.
EDIT: I believe the opposite of what Hax believes about this game. He is saying that approaching is bad, but I've found approaching with movement prediction is much more rewarding than waiting to predict what they're gonna do and then moving out of the way and then hitting them. I've been incorporating that with lasers and FINALLY I'm dash dancing. I really want to play more melee right now.
EDIT: I believe the opposite of what Hax believes about this game. He is saying that approaching is bad, but I've found approaching with movement prediction is much more rewarding than waiting to predict what they're gonna do and then moving out of the way and then hitting them. I've been incorporating that with lasers and FINALLY I'm dash dancing. I really want to play more melee right now.
Smashallday
Smash Rookie
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Forgot I have physical therapy later today so I won't be able to make the trek up. Im gonna try and schedule next tuesday's physical therapy some other time so I can come and smash.
Zivilyn Bane
Smash Master
Mango is of the same opinion as Wretched on this one.
Hax...or Mango.....
HMMMMMMMMMMMM <3
Vts
Smash Champion
well i beat hax so I'll take mangos side on this lol
hax only lost due to not being aggressive vs me, he gave me to many time to deysnc/set up stuff.
arbustos
Smash Journeyman
The thing is, and this is true for any competition I've ever examined deeply, controlling the pace of the match is your key to victory - assuming relative mechanical skill levels. Anything can win if you're just fundamentally better than your opponent...
This generally means being the aggressor in terms of making the first move. In some situations/games, aggression only manifests as aggressive-defensive, which is fine. Take falcon, an undeniably defensive character, who will still run up and cut off your space. He isn't aggressing you directly, but he made the first move and now you are playing reactively. Enter ze mindgames. The point is that passive defense will only bring you success if the other person allows it. Whether you win is on them, not you. In general I think this is a terribly unrewarding way to play unless your only goal is to win. Unfortunately passive defense is OP before the metagame develops A LOT (i.e. slightly more than Melee's has). I think Armada said offense will gradually catch up to defense in the meta as people get better. I also think Hax's viewpoint is tainted by playing Falcon, who is hard to aggress with well and is easier to play super defensively due to his speed, big *** hitboxes, and auto combos. Also people tend to play defensively against falcon in return because he's a BS character that can be given nothing and make a comeback out of it in the most formulaic way. So yeah. Bias.
On the other hand Mango has a fundamentally aggressive soul and applies it to every character he plays. And really, once you tap into that "spirit" you realize it's just about understanding your character's hitboxes and what your opponent wants to do, then outplaying them. And then the game becomes truly fun.
This generally means being the aggressor in terms of making the first move. In some situations/games, aggression only manifests as aggressive-defensive, which is fine. Take falcon, an undeniably defensive character, who will still run up and cut off your space. He isn't aggressing you directly, but he made the first move and now you are playing reactively. Enter ze mindgames. The point is that passive defense will only bring you success if the other person allows it. Whether you win is on them, not you. In general I think this is a terribly unrewarding way to play unless your only goal is to win. Unfortunately passive defense is OP before the metagame develops A LOT (i.e. slightly more than Melee's has). I think Armada said offense will gradually catch up to defense in the meta as people get better. I also think Hax's viewpoint is tainted by playing Falcon, who is hard to aggress with well and is easier to play super defensively due to his speed, big *** hitboxes, and auto combos. Also people tend to play defensively against falcon in return because he's a BS character that can be given nothing and make a comeback out of it in the most formulaic way. So yeah. Bias.
On the other hand Mango has a fundamentally aggressive soul and applies it to every character he plays. And really, once you tap into that "spirit" you realize it's just about understanding your character's hitboxes and what your opponent wants to do, then outplaying them. And then the game becomes truly fun.
Actually I completely agree with Mango too. I just couldn't pass up on opportunity.
I somehow try to approach with Ganon...maybe that's my problem...
_Yes!_
Smash Hero
Mind if I ask what for? I'm currently a PT student :D
Cool...Imma nurse :D
-Sinister-
Smash Ace
it depends on what character. if you just rush in and guess with sheik or marth you'll get *****. you can with fox and falco because they're broken as all **** and should be deleted.
_Yes!_
Smash Hero
I have been taught to be very nice to your kind
arbustos
Smash Journeyman
But approaching embodies a lot more than just moving forward
Sheik and marth can do it fine. In terms of rushing in and guessing, yeah spacies can and do pull off that stupid aggression, but it isn't the essence of the idea and it's certainly not unbeatable. Most other characters are merely limited to intelligent aggression, but I don't think they're worse off for it.
Prisoner 24601
Smash Rookie
I wanna make it next tuesday, when and where do i go?
Wretched
Dankness of Heart
Michael has talked to me and we will probably smash a little bit later. How convenient?
Zivilyn Bane
Smash Master
Do you have a cell phone? If so, PM me your number.
Prisoner 24601
Smash Rookie
...done
Zivilyn Bane
Smash Master
<3 Terral
_Yes!_
Smash Hero
Woo pigMissouri meets Georgia in MO's first ever SEC opener.
Though over-ranked, I believe Georgia will still win. I'll root for Missouri vs other non-conference teams in the future, but today I hope they get a beating
Be warned that I will be trash talking the Hogs regardless of their performance since they're playing Rutgers in 2 weeks and that's where I went to college.
I actually could take it alot better had we not had some guys get seriously injured the other night. But yeah, we stunk it up- did not expect it to be this bad without Petrino.Woo pig
Be warned that I will be trash talking the Hogs regardless of their performance since they're playing Rutgers in 2 weeks and that's where I went to college.
Usually, we would destroy Rutgers by like 3 or 4 touchdowns, but honestly I'm expecting you guys to beat us this year. We won't even be a ranked team by that time, so don't feel too special
arbustos
Smash Journeyman
Passed the hog on the interstate yesterday. It had a police escort.
Zivilyn Bane
Smash Master
Meanwhile the 9ers starting off perfect, defeating the so called "elite" Packers.
Zantetsu
Smash Master
My co-worker that I said was just like you is a packers fan. It would be hilarious to see a debate between you two. It'd be like arguing with yourself.
Prisoner 24601
Smash Rookie
I still dont have any info on anything, are you playing tomorrow?
Zivilyn Bane
Smash Master
Yes. I will txt you some time today with the details.
Prisoner, we start playing Romans around 12 and stop around 5. We always go out to eat at Hardees afterwards or we order pizza. If anyone wants to play any more then we usually play at Wretcheds.
EDIT
Terral is probably the only one that plays Brawl but if you really want to I would definitely play you a few games since you're down to play some Melee with us. Haven't played in a very long time though. I don't mind playing Brawl but Melee is just more fun for me.
Btw, who do you main in Melee and Brawl? Also, do you know basic things like l-cancelling, etc? Sorry if you've said this already but sometimes I don't keep track of the thread.
Oh, and if you have a Facebook, we have a Facebook page where we plan smash days and talk random smash stuff.
EDIT
Terral is probably the only one that plays Brawl but if you really want to I would definitely play you a few games since you're down to play some Melee with us. Haven't played in a very long time though. I don't mind playing Brawl but Melee is just more fun for me.
Btw, who do you main in Melee and Brawl? Also, do you know basic things like l-cancelling, etc? Sorry if you've said this already but sometimes I don't keep track of the thread.
Oh, and if you have a Facebook, we have a Facebook page where we plan smash days and talk random smash stuff.
Prisoner 24601
Smash Rookie
My faceboook is http://www.facebook.com/angel.sotelo.90
what is wretcheds? i main brawl because my brother sold my melee but i went to vintage stock i ordered melee. so i plan on playing that now, i did know the basics but i havnt played melee competitivly in a year and a half so only time would tell, but it shouldnt take me too long to relearn.
Zivilyn Bane
Smash Master
I will meet you in person, confirm that you are not a spy, then add you on Facebook.
Also, super excited to hear about you switching to Melee. It's a far superior game, but the skill gap is immense so I hope you like a challenge.
Also, super excited to hear about you switching to Melee. It's a far superior game, but the skill gap is immense so I hope you like a challenge.
_Yes!_
Smash Hero
I think Michael is a spy.
If anyone was curious about the status of the player database, some tournament processing is finished (ELO rating isn't), uploading is mostly finished, and today I finished up the user login/registration system. The interface hasn't been started, there's still a bit of work left to do. I tested uploading the .tio files for MIST and the May Pathways tournaments together (I don't know if the current ssbpd lets you upload more than one file at a time, but this one does) and it was able to process it and show all seven brackets in a quarter of a second. Kinda neat. The main problem is that I'm about three days into this and kind of screwed if no one donates once it launches, but I'll worry about that later.