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But then Jigglypuff would have a random chance of waking up only after every hit she takes, so the opponent only needs to move her to the edge and hit her out of the stage and if she doesn't wake up on that one chance it's KO....
Actually it always wakes up after two turns. And don't go trying to apply turn-based logic to Smash.
Only two? That definitely changed from my time of Pokémon playing back in the day.... but it's even worse for her because it only takes one move to take her out of the stage and she has no chance of waking up now.
as I remember, Rest is always 2 turn. but sleeping (like sing and hypnosis) is random between 2-5
Even in gen 1 and 2? I remember it to be all random in my Pokémon Stadium games.... but hey, again, who am me to trust too much on my memory?
Kirby, Ganon and Palu-sama are all on my play list, but I haven't been home to even install the patch yet : (
I respectfully disagree. Jigglypuff is one of the Original 12, and none of them have ever been cut. Smash 64 is the only game in the series whose roster is completely present in every Smash game, and there's no indication of that changing any time soon. As such, I believe it stands to reason that Jigglypuff, or any other given member of the Original 12, for that matter, will be present in the next Smash Bros. Like I said, though, this is just my opinion.
I question a few of these, especially Roy, then Marth and Lucina...but Lucina is one of my mains, so I'm kinda biased I suppose.I am utterly convinced that 1.1.3 Mewtwo is better than the following characters across an entire-cast matchup spread
And shares a similar viability to
That's seems to the be general opinion I've been seeing recently, at least in regards to theory lists given there's not much data just yet for the new patch.I am utterly convinced that 1.1.3 Mewtwo is better than the following characters across an entire-cast matchup spread
And shares a similar viability to
OP Metal Blade sounds good to me, as does a spread shot Air Shooter.
No. I along with most people consider it situational at best due to it's endlag making followups nearly impossible and it's damage output being outclassed by all of his other throws. I can't think of a reason to use it over his other throws.
D-throw has many uses, it isn't that bad.
Aninymouse
Furret24
can you guys imagine how OP Dthrow-Dtilt/Fair would be? We don't want that, especially with the ease Mewtwo can get grabs.Well, whenever you think Mewtwo's OP just rememberD-throw has many uses, it isn't that bad.
@Mario Smith
D-Throw links into DA if DI'ed away and Usmash otherwise, not that bad really. If the ju,p away, they don't have a DJ, punish with SB.
If they nerfed Shiek's needles, Shiek would be fine.Well, whenever you think Mewtwo's OP just remember
This is how I see it.D-throw has many uses, it isn't that bad.
@Mario Smith
D-Throw links into DA if DI'ed away and Usmash otherwise, not that bad really. If the ju,p away, they don't have a DJ, punish with SB.
Controversial statement of the year right there... not saying I disagree entirely (especially with improved movement speed), but if there's one thing people are vocal about with Mewtwo (besides weight), it's his short grab.@Mario Smith
His grab range is short, but he doesn't have a really hard time getting the oppurtunities for grabs. He can get one out of Nair, SB, empty hop, practically anything on shield. I am just saying, that when characters have an easier time landing grabs, they tend to have bad ones. Barring top tiers. In my time playing Mewtwo, I have found that it is not really easy to get grabs, but, it is rather easy to punish with a grab. The one thing I will stick to completely about Mewtwo is that he is a punishing character, and the best and easiest punish is often grab. Do you get what I am saying?
That's why I said it would be fine if it sent straight up, then Uair would combo out of it, however, we would lose Dthrow-Usmash kill confirm.
I never said that I find him OP. I actually find him rather lacking, though, in his defense, he's one of the only characters who's combos actually deal more damage than his Smash Attacks.
Well, that's when you go Offensive-Two. I love fighting Bowsers and Ganons as Mewtwo because I can beat them around the stage with ease.
But what if instead we got a kill combo?
If you are talking about that being a bad thing, they can easily change the BKG and KBG.I never said that I find him OP. I actually find him rather lacking, though, in his defense, he's one of the only characters who's combos actually deal more damage than his Smash Attacks.
Well, that's when you go Offensive-Two. I love fighting Bowsers and Ganons as Mewtwo because I can beat them around the stage with ease.
But what if instead we got a kill combo?
We used to have this guy who claimed Mewtwo HAS to play aggressive. It came to no ones surprise when they got rekt by Ganondorf lol
And Mewtwo still juggles Bowser like a beach ball.
Sonicninja115
Haha that's really weird, looks like all the Mewtwo's combine to make a Ultimate Dark form of Mewtwo or something, the U-smash effect looked cool when they all did it at the same time too.
It's exploding on reddit right now. It is pretty simple to do, as long as you have 7 amiibo. Basically, you trick the game into thinking your controller is players one-eight, no hacking involved.
how hard does Mewtwo get hit by Bowsers new combos? We have the weight factor helping us as well, being super light, it is hard to know the correct percentages.
I play aggressive Mewtwo all the time, even if it costs me a match... I suppose that I've simply never liked to sacrifice my "morals" just to "fit in".
Metalex
i saw your tumble lock vid. Is the Confusion to Uair easier now? I know we had it before, but it looked like it connected easier. And please don't tell me learning how to PP hurt your finger THAT bad. That would really be a pain if a tech did that.I still use my mindgames (like movement "ATs"), however, the moment I get an opening I'll usually rush my opponent down until it's nearly impossible for me to do further damage. I usually use Double-Jump Cancelled Shadow Balls to keep my enemies in check as I approach them, that, and Confusion -> Up-Tilt, since people usually don't think to escape from that. I do wish that Uair was safe to SHFF with, though, kinda like Kirby's and Mario's.
It is plus 2/3 on shield now. As long as you cross-up or hit with the tip of Uair you are fine.
