[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

[GoodGrief741]

The rumor for the Game Awards was never MP4, it was Metroid Prime Trilogy.

 

[MyDude213]

At this point I'm half convinced they silently canned the MediEvil remake. Either that or Sony just can't market an old-school, cartoony type game (can't blame them in the current market). Though they do seem to like shoving Concrete Genie in my face despite my lack of caring.

It's not canned it's set to release this year and so far the speculated release month is October as that's when he anniversary of the game is happening. If the devs aren't showing anything it's probably cause they're busy working on it. I see a trailer dropping sometime near E3 this year. The last trailer they put out was December 21st last year so it really hasn't been that long since it was shown off. As for shoving Concrete Genie in your face despite YOU not caring... Ya YOU don't care, that doesn't mean EVERYONE doesn't care. That statement is silly and honestly completely irrelevant to anything whatsoever.

 

[MajoraMan28]

It's finally available guys!!

 

[Teeb147]

It's finally available guys!!

There's a fast forward option :O
that'll def speed up battles for people who get tired of them.

hope people who havent had the chance to play it enjoy the game. Not gonna get it myself but im glad it's available.

 

[Sigran101]

The rumor for the Game Awards was never MP4, it was Metroid Prime Trilogy.

It was both.

 

[GoodGrief741]

It's not canned it's set to release this year and so far the speculated release month is October as that's when he anniversary of the game is happening. If the devs aren't showing anything it's probably cause they're busy working on it. I see a trailer dropping sometime near E3 this year. The last trailer they put out was December 21st last year so it really hasn't been that long since it was shown off. As for shoving Concrete Genie in your face despite YOU not caring... Ya YOU don't care, that doesn't mean EVERYONE doesn't care. That statement is silly and honestly completely irrelevant to anything whatsoever.

Sony won't be at E3, so there's no venue for them to announce a release date for MediEvil. Unless they make State of Plays a regular thing - which is unlikely, given the dearth of content of today's show and the fact that if they did have anything to show throughout the year they'd be on stage at E3. If they're aiming at an October release, they'll just drop the date with a trailer, which is basically dooming the game at this point after the lack of advertising.

Also, glad you're looking forward to Concrete Genie! But if you think people expressing their opinions is 'silly and completely irrelevant to anything whatsoever', then welcome to the internet! And please leave immediately, 'cause it's full of those pesky things.

It was both.

You got a source on that?

 

[TheYungLink]

I honestly hope Final Fantasy VII gets a physical release on the Switch someday, as an Irony Limit Break.

But right now, just owning FF7 on a Nintendo console is enough for me~

 

[Sigran101]

Sony won't be at E3, so there's no venue for them to announce a release date for MediEvil. Unless they make State of Plays a regular thing - which is unlikely, given the dearth of content of today's show and the fact that if they did have anything to show throughout the year they'd be on stage at E3. If they're aiming at an October release, they'll just drop the date with a trailer, which is basically dooming the game at this point after the lack of advertising.

Also, glad you're looking forward to Concrete Genie! But if you think people expressing their opinions is 'silly and completely irrelevant to anything whatsoever', then welcome to the internet! And please leave immediately, 'cause it's full of those pesky things.

You got a source on that?

I mean, do you want me to go sift through old tweets from leakers? I just remember the discussion. Do you have a source for your point? You were the first one to disagree.

 

[Deleted member]

hi

Crazy to see FFVII on a Nintendo console. The game was pretty much the face of the PlayStation back in the fifth generation. Hell, the fact that it took us over 20 years to get here shows that.

 

[GoodGrief741]

I mean, do you want me to go sift through old tweets from leakers? I just remember the discussion. Do you have a source for your point? You were the first one to disagree.

I don't know how you want me to prove that something doesn't exist, that's not how burden of proof works.

https://www.inet.se/produkt/6609611/metroid-prime-trilogy-switch

That's the link for the allegedly leaked product page for Metroid Prime Trilogy that popped up before TGA, it also says there that the game would have been revealed at TGA.

Marcus Sellars and Spawn Wave backed it, and King Zell had previously 'leaked' the title.

I mean no disrespect, but during the pre-Awards time I never heard any sort of rumor or leak regarding Metroid Prime 4, which is why I was asking for a source.

 

[Teeb147]

I don't know how you want me to prove that something doesn't exist, that's not how burden of proof works.

https://www.inet.se/produkt/6609611/metroid-prime-trilogy-switch

That's the link for the allegedly leaked product page for Metroid Prime Trilogy that popped up before TGA, it also says there that the game would have been revealed at TGA.

Marcus Sellars and Spawn Wave backed it, and King Zell had previously 'leaked' the title.

I mean no disrespect, but during the pre-Awards time I never heard any sort of rumor or leak regarding Metroid Prime 4, which is why I was asking for a source.

The burden of proof is on whoever makes a claim. Since you're saying there werent rumors for MP 4, you're technically making one, but I know that what you're actually meaning is that it wasn't leaked like the trilogy, so really you're disputing the claim that it was leaked.

There WERE quite a bit of rumors about it, but from what I saw it was stuff about Reggie wearing a metroid shirt, or 'accidents' like someone mentioning a date or a store listing something about metroid in the system, or things like that. If there were actual leaks I dont know about them.

But also you're right that when two claims are made against each other like this (like something being there or not being there), the one that's about it existing takes on more of the burden because it's way too hard to prove something doesnt exist. Cuz you have nothing to show

 

[Arcadenik]

hi

Crazy to see FFVII on a Nintendo console. The game was pretty much the face of the PlayStation back in the fifth generation. Hell, the fact that it took us over 20 years to get here shows that.

Yeah. It was long overdue. It would have been nice if it was available on the N64 but better late than never.

 

[Namasura]

hi

Crazy to see FFVII on a Nintendo console. The game was pretty much the face of the PlayStation back in the fifth generation. Hell, the fact that it took us over 20 years to get here shows that.

Crazier is to see a company that entered the market by being very lax on censorship and allowing devs to have autonomy, resulting in the largest library any home console has ever seen, now breathing on devs' neck and saying they want "fewer, bigger games". I am very happy with my PS1, PS2, and PSP but I don't think I will ever need another Sony console in my life. PC + Nintendo has been all I ever need and most of what I cared about is either dead or on Nintendo now.

Though, since we already got those two, C Cross would also be nice to port. They didn't lose the code for that one, did they?

Porting all Dragon Quests will also be nice, though I think that is an eventuality, the 15 years in which all mainline DQs were not legally accessible in a single Nintendo console will likely be a short and weird break in comparison to the 18 in which they were (and rising for as long as the 3DS e-shop lasts)

 

[Teeb147]

this place got a lot quieter overnight

Crazier is to see a company that entered the market by being very lax on censorship and allowing devs to have autonomy, resulting in the largest library any home console has ever seen, now breathing on devs' neck and saying they want "fewer, bigger games". I am very happy with my PS1, PS2, and PSP but I don't think I will ever need another Sony console in my life. PC + Nintendo has been all I ever need and most of what I cared about is either dead or on Nintendo now.

Though, since we already got those two, C Cross would also be nice to port. They didn't lose the code for that one, did they?

Porting all Dragon Quests will also be nice, though I think that is an eventuality, the 15 years in which all mainline DQs were not legally accessible in a single Nintendo console will likely be a short and weird break in comparison to the 18 in which they were (and rising for as long as the 3DS e-shop lasts)

Wait what, im not alone in wanting crono cross? :O

and yeah if they're bringing back the FF series to switch, they should for DQ too

 

[Namasura]

this place got a lot quieter overnight

Wait what, im not alone in wanting crono cross? :O

CC has its issues, but its such a pretty and atmospheric game. Furthermore, by the end of this year, it will be 20 years since its release. Which is the perfect time to play it again.

 

[ZelDan]

Ugh, I'd totally get FFVII but I'm dealing with car BS right now.

 

[Calane]

Never played Final Fantasy 7 before, but I got it anyway.

Even though turn-based JRPGs are my favorite video game genre, I've yet to truly fall in love with a FF game. I tried playing 1, 6, and a bit of 2, but for one reason or another, I couldn't really get into them.

I've always respected FF, but I could never really call myself a real fan of the franchise. I'm hoping FF7 is gonna be the game that changes that.

 

[Deleted member]

Never played Final Fantasy 7 before, but I got it anyway.

Even though turn-based JRPGs are my favorite video game genre, I've yet to truly fall in love with a FF game. I tried playing 1, 6, and a bit of 2, but for one reason or another, I couldn't really get into them.

I've always respected FF, but I could never really call myself a real fan of the franchise. I'm hoping FF7 is gonna be the game that changes that.

Try X then, it is turn based and it takes some cool ideas around it. Switch version should be releasing soon.

 

[Calane]

Try X then, it is turn based and it takes some cool ideas around it. Switch version should be releasing soon.

Sure. If I don't like FF7 that much, I'll probably try that one next.

I'll admit, I'm not very fond of the ATB system, so FFX sounds like something I'd have a much easier time getting into.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I originally played FF1 myself. I found regular turn-based pretty neat. FFVI(while it was labeled as III) was the one I played next. I got used to the ATB system fast. I like both. It depends if you feel like being reactionary or truly turn-based. Overall, I prefer the FF games to stay one of these two since they were traditional rpg's. For similar reasons, I don't consider the MMO's true mainline games(though yeah, they obviously are regardless). I consider X-2 the real 11 myself, for instance. Despite the different playstyle of 12, it still felt like an epic one-shot adventure, the idea of what FF is. A big issue with MMORPG's is they have a hard time telling a singular consistent story(though it can slightly change up due to party shifting) in the same way. I felt like that was the biggest factor to an FF mainline game. Again, that's not the real definition and I won't pretend it is. Just my personal fanon.

 

[ZelDan]

Never played Final Fantasy 7 before, but I got it anyway.

Even though turn-based JRPGs are my favorite video game genre, I've yet to truly fall in love with a FF game. I tried playing 1, 6, and a bit of 2, but for one reason or another, I couldn't really get into them.

I've always respected FF, but I could never really call myself a real fan of the franchise. I'm hoping FF7 is gonna be the game that changes that.

Hmmm, are you a fan of job systems by chance? If so, FFV might be up your alley. It's personally my third favorite FF, behind FFVI and FFVII.

 

[Calane]

Hmmm, are you a fan of job systems by chance? If so, FFV might be up your alley. It's personally my third favorite FF, behind FFVI and FFVII.

It kind of depends, I guess.

For example, I loved the job system in DQ7, but not so much in Bravely Default. Not exactly sure why that was, though. In general, I'm fine with it.

I'd love to give FFV a try if I ever got my hands on it someday.

 

[Teeb147]

It kind of depends, I guess.

For example, I loved the job system in DQ7, but not so much in Bravely Default. Not exactly sure why that was, though. In general, I'm fine with it.

I'd love to give FFV a try if I ever got my hands on it someday.

It depends what it is about Final Fantasy games that you have trouble getting into. If you do really like job systems then it can save FF5 cuz it's actually pretty good, but otherwise it's not at all better than the other FF games. At least, emulators make trying out older games pretty easy

 

[Calane]

It depends what it is about Final Fantasy games that you have trouble getting into. If you do really like job systems then it can save FF5 cuz it's actually pretty good, but otherwise it's not at all better than the other FF games. At least, emulators make trying out older games pretty easy

You know, that's the thing. I don't know.

It's not that I haven't enjoyed them (I liked them fine enough), I just never really "loved" one like I have a lot of other JRPGs (Dragon Quest, Breath of Fire, Phantasy Star, Golden Sun, etc.). I couldn't really tell you why, honestly.

 

[TheYungLink]

The ATB system always felt like "turn based battles but you're rushed" to me, but I still like 4, 6, and 7 well enough (have not played the others). "Reactionary" like Chinderblock says is right.

I made a post a while back on how I don't really look at "Final Fantasy" as a series, and how these days I see it more like a brand. It's a viewpoint that should help you get into the games without any pressure to check out all of the rest of them if you aren't inclined to do that.

 

[MajoraMan28]

Nintendo posting the launch trailer with the track that cuts deep in the heart.
Never failed to tear me up. So beautiful. ;_;
Also, notice how much Nintendo is promoting and making a big deal out of this. Xbox got it too but you see nothing from them.
FFVII was always meant to be on a Nintendo console, and it's good to see VII being the culmination of FF returning home.

And imo, ATB is THE legacy that FF left for the JRPG genre.
FFX goes a few steps back by going to grid levelling system while losing all of the timed battle characteristic that made the encounters faster paced and more engaging. V is for the ultimate job system. VII, VI and IX are the culmination of having basically everything good. VII, though, is the one with the best written protagonist, soundtrack, plot with a dark yet charming and lighthearted experience and tone.
Give it a try.
And who knows. Maybe people here hype up for Sephiroth in Smash along the way.

 

[Deleted member]

My god it's out already!? There are so many games on my Switch to play! I'll finish Shantae real quick and pick this up. I will give you my play-by-play commentary over this game when I start playing.

 

[MajoraMan28]

Also, we were talking about FFXIV here, and this shows up
https://nintendoeverything.com/squa...do-about-putting-final-fantasy-xiv-on-switch/
For anyone here who doesn't know, this has been going on for ages. It's a matter of time before XIV shows up on the console

 

[Teeb147]

Oof. I actually hate the ATB system, for turn-based games with menus.
I would much rather there always be the option to turn it off like in Chrono Trigger, because I would always like to be able to take my time to select options and think about and develop strategy, easefully.

Having the option for it also makes it that someone can turn it on if they want that challenge, and be more on the spot.
I tolerate it, I mean it's not the biggest issue. But yeah I think it's actually a stupid mechanic with a menu system. That's just my opinion, though I know others who feel the same.

That said, it doesnt change that I still think the Final Fantasy series is great overall, and probably some of my favorite RPGs.

 

[Deleted member]

Oof. I actually hate the ATB system, for turn-based games with menus.
I would much rather there always be the option to turn it off like in Chrono Trigger, because I would always like to be able to take my time to select options and think about and develop strategy, easefully.

Having the option for it also makes it that someone can turn it on if they want that challenge, for not having as much time to think or move on decisions.
I tolerate it, I mean it's not the biggest issue. But yeah I think it's actually a stupid mechanic with a menu system. That's just my opinion, though I know others who feel the same.

That said, it doesnt change that I still think the Final Fantasy series is great overall, and probably some of my favorite RPGs.

The active time battles are the one thing that sort of turn me off about trying FF. It technically makes sense because my enemies aren't just going to stand there, but I'm bad at thinking and moving at the same time. Hopefully FF7 is built well enough to where I can make my plans on the fly easily without dying, like, five times. Worse case scenario, I'll just, like, go to the Switch's home menu to cheat for time

 

[MajoraMan28]

Oof. I actually hate the ATB system, for turn-based games with menus.
I would much rather there always be the option to turn it off like in Chrono Trigger, because I would always like to be able to take my time to select options and think about and develop strategy, easefully.

Having the option for it also makes it that someone can turn it on if they want that challenge, and be more on the spot.
I tolerate it, I mean it's not the biggest issue. But yeah I think it's actually a stupid mechanic with a menu system. That's just my opinion, though I know others who feel the same.

That said, it doesnt change that I still think the Final Fantasy series is great overall, and probably some of my favorite RPGs.

Most of the FFs that have ATB, including VII, have the option of turning ATB off for the traditional turn-based style (this is the case when opening the menu for magic and items).
I understand why people would prefer the OG system. I like ATB more bc the OG one feels too easy for me. Having the time bar makes the stakes higher, forces me to get better at decision making in less time, and makes it seem more "realistic".

 

[Deleted member]

Most of the FFs that have ATB, including VII, have the option of turning ATB off for the traditional turn-based style.
I understand why people would prefer the OG system. I like ATB more bc the OG one feels too easy for me. Having the time bar makes the stakes higher, forces me to get better at decision making in less time, and makes it seem more "realistic".

I understand the merits of ATB systems. Maybe I'll start picking it up when I get better at RPGs, but I'm a man who wants to sit down, swig a bottle of water in the middle of combat, and then check that one text message while fending for my life.

E: This is also my first Final Fantasy game so I also just don't know the classic archetypes and tropes that fans like Somecallmejohnny are familiar with. Gotta open myself slowly to this sort of thing.

 

[Teeb147]

The active time battles are the one thing that sort of turn me off about trying FF. It technically makes sense because my enemies aren't just going to stand there, but I'm bad at thinking and moving at the same time. Hopefully FF7 is built well enough to where I can make my plans on the fly easily without dying, like, five times. Worse case scenario, I'll just, like, go to the Switch's home menu to cheat for time

At least most classic rpgs aren't overly punishing, and at worst you can level up a little to get a bigger window.
In the end even though it's a small pet peve, I dont usually end up thinking too much about it, and maybe can study a bit my options in easy fights.

Most of the FFs that have ATB, including VII, have the option of turning ATB off for the traditional turn-based style (this is the case when opening the menu for magic and items).
I understand why people would prefer the OG system. I like ATB more bc the OG one feels too easy for me. Having the time bar makes the stakes higher, forces me to get better at decision making in less time, and makes it seem more "realistic".

Do you know which ones you can? Because from what i rememeber even if you set it to 'wait', it still continues while navigating menus, which is what i dont like.

 

[Deleted member]

At least most classic rpgs aren't overly punishing, and at worst you can level up a little to get a bigger window.
In the end even though it's a small pet peve, I dont usually end up thinking too much about it, and maybe can study a bit my options in easy fights.

We'll see. This is literally my first mainline Final Fantasy game so I'm going to be learning a lot of fundamental RPG knowledge from FF7 such as the ATB concept.

 

[Teeb147]

We'll see. This is literally my first mainline Final Fantasy game so I'm going to be learning a lot of fundamental RPG knowledge from FF7 such as the ATB concept.

I find the older Dragon Quest games to be harder than FF because you actually have to grind a little more before you get to new sections.
Also, if it helps, I'm pretty sure you can always pause at any point in battle. And you can set the battle system to 'wait' in the options but what it does is that the time gauges dont continue while an attack is going, so it slows down things a little. really I'd honestly try without wait but you have that option in some FFs if you do want things to be slown down a bit.

That's just my advice. It's still pretty easy to have a good time with the game

 

[MajoraMan28]

At least most classic rpgs aren't overly punishing, and at worst you can level up a little to get a bigger window.
In the end even though it's a small pet peve, I dont usually end up thinking too much about it, and maybe can study a bit my options in easy fights.



Do you know which ones you can? Because from what i rememeber even if you set it to 'wait', it still continues while navigating menus, which is what i dont like.

In that option, the only menu that time passes regardless is the main one. If you open the magic and item menus, time stops for everyone.
All of the ATB games have both Active and Wait options. FFVII has a third option called "recommended" which features time stopping for battle animations, but not on menus.

 

[Teeb147]

In that option, the only menu that time passes regardless is the main one. If you open the magic and item menus, time stops for everyone.
All of the ATB games have both Active and Wait options. FFVII has a third option called "recommended" which features time stopping for battle animations, but not on menus.

Ok yeh I just read that somewhere else too, because i wanted to make sure. I havent replayed FF7 in a long time so i didnt remember 100%.
Sorry @Bolderousness, you can actually use wait to help you then. It's just you have to actually go into a menu (like spells or items) for it to stop time.

So that's good

-I thought I used wait in some games and it didnt stop while in the menus. im not entirely sure now which ones. (or maybe i misremembered)

 

[Deleted member]

Ok yeh I just read that somewhere else too, because i wanted to make sure. I havent replayed FF7 in a long time so i didnt remember 100%.
Sorry @Bolderousness, you can actually use wait to help you then. It's just you have to actually go into a menu (like spells or items) for it to stop time.

So that's good

-I thought I used wait in some games and it didnt stop while in the menus. Or maybe that was when i didnt know about the option.

Alright then. Not my preferred method but it's a work around I can get down with anyways.

 

[Theanimator10]

hi

Crazy to see FFVII on a Nintendo console. The game was pretty much the face of the PlayStation back in the fifth generation. Hell, the fact that it took us over 20 years to get here shows that.

Isn't ironic that the whole tiff between square and nintendo was that Square didn't want their products on a cartridge anymore and instead wanted them on a stronger device that ended up being disk based. Now we have come full circle just for FF7 to be on Nintendo finally... on a cartridge haha

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Isn't ironic that the whole tiff between square and nintendo was that Square didn't want their products on a cartridge anymore and instead wanted them on a stronger device that ended up being disk based. Now we have come full circle just for FF7 to be on Nintendo finally... on a cartridge haha

Though it's less interesting when we've had FF3(the actual 3) on a DS cartridge. Still cool it came full circle.

But one thing that's for sure is being underpowered is Nintendo's thing. They're like an outdated PC sometimes. XD