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[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

Who do you think is the most likely possible Square-Enix Newcomer? (Two Choices possibles)


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Mementos IS Joker's Stage, its just been datamined.

Its happening bois and gals

Wonder if Character 2 is anywhere in the code
 
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For those who need a refresh, this is a key part of the 5ch leak

https://personacentral.com/rumor-pe...plete-edition-2019-super-smash-ultimate-leak/

  • Joker
  • The stage is Mementos
  • Jack Frost appears on screen with a skill
  • Marketing of P5R (complete version) and P5U (fighting game)
  • P5R is 2019
  • P5U is delayed because Arc is busy with the development of a Granblue fighting game
  • Erdrick
  • Stage is Alefgard
  • Erdrick (Male) and Erdrick (Female), 2 colors each of Anlucia and the Dragon Quest XI Hero
  • Slime appears on screen with a skill
  • Achieved through active collaboration on Square’s side
  • To the benefit of overseas marketing for the DQ series
More evidence that it is Erdrick
 

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Mementos IS Joker's Stage, its just been datamined.

Its happening bois and gals


WE COULD HAVE HAD THE CASINO OF ENVY! WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS:

BUT INSTEAD WE GET THIS:


WE WERE SO CLOSE TO GREATNESS.
Wonder if Character 2 is anywhere in the code
Being serious, I think this is the next thing to search for. If we can find a "Brave_[STAGE NAME GOES HERE_" file it'll be incredibly useful in determining who "Brave" is.
 
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Mementos IS Joker's Stage, its just been datamined.

Its happening bois and gals

Ooh. So that's a point for the 5ch leak that listed that as his stage, huh? Interesting to hear. I won't take it as total confirmation but now we can't throw it out either.
 
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For those who need a refresh, this is a key part of the 5ch leak

https://personacentral.com/rumor-pe...plete-edition-2019-super-smash-ultimate-leak/

  • Joker
  • The stage is Mementos
  • Jack Frost appears on screen with a skill
  • Marketing of P5R (complete version) and P5U (fighting game)
  • P5R is 2019
  • P5U is delayed because Arc is busy with the development of a Granblue fighting game

  • Erdrick
  • Stage is Alefgard
  • Erdrick (Male) and Erdrick (Female), 2 colors each of Anlucia and the Dragon Quest XI Hero
  • Slime appears on screen with a skill
  • Achieved through active collaboration on Square’s side
  • To the benefit of overseas marketing for the DQ series
More evidence that it is Erdrick
Eh. Mementos is a safe stage pick given how there are not many places you can really take from Persona 5. The Casino, Kamoshida's Castle, and Mementos are the three most likely stages due to their importance in the game. At most, this doesn't deconfirm the 5chan leak, which is what Erdrick is needing.
 
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WE COULD HAVE HAD THE CASINO OF ENVY! WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS:

BUT INSTEAD WE GET THIS:


WE WERE SO CLOSE TO GREATNESS.
I mean, I think a train station stage could be sick. Although maybe I’m biased because I’m from London, and Tube is life.
 

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Turns out the 5ch leak was right and Joker is coming with Mementos.

It's huge point toward Erdrick since the leak also mentioned him and Alefgard coming as a stage.
 

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Mementos IS Joker's Stage, its just been datamined.

Its happening bois and gals

Ugh... if this is true, I'm not gonna be happy...

Because I would've preferred the Casino as the stage, but I guess they went w/ the other obvious choice.

As far as the 5chan leak goes, it is a point in its favor...

However, I'm not completely sold on it just yet. P5R and P5U are the other big points in this leak.

So I'll withhold my final judgement on the leak until we know what's going on w/ those games.
 
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Mementos IS Joker's Stage, its just been datamined.

Its happening bois and gals

I can't say I'm surprised. Yet another point towards Erdrick! Not like he needed it though..
 

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WE COULD HAVE HAD THE CASINO OF ENVY! WE COULD HAVE HAD THIS:

BUT INSTEAD WE GET THIS:


WE WERE SO CLOSE TO GREATNESS.

Being serious, I think this is the next thing to search for. If we can find a "Brave_[STAGE NAME GOES HERE_" file it'll be incredibly useful in determining who "Brave" is.
I was hoping for the casino as well.
A pity.
But I'll be honest, it wouldn't be hard to call out Mementos as the stage for Joker. It's like saying Sephiroth's stage is the Planet's Core.
I'm still keeping my expectations in check, so I won't believe in that 5chan leak yet.
 
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Being serious, I think this is the next thing to search for. If we can find a "Brave_[STAGE NAME GOES HERE_" file it'll be incredibly useful in determining who "Brave" is.
Interesting how Joker is still Jack. Probably means Brave is still indeed Brave.

I'd also like to point out how the 5chan leak also guessed that Nintendo and Square would be doing more overseas DQ marketing, which falls in line with Nintendo's plans for the series.

Things are slowly lining up more for Erdrick than not.
 
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For those who need a refresh, this is a key part of the 5ch leak

https://personacentral.com/rumor-pe...plete-edition-2019-super-smash-ultimate-leak/

  • Joker
  • The stage is Mementos
  • Jack Frost appears on screen with a skill
  • Marketing of P5R (complete version) and P5U (fighting game)
  • P5R is 2019
  • P5U is delayed because Arc is busy with the development of a Granblue fighting game

  • Erdrick
  • Stage is Alefgard
  • Erdrick (Male) and Erdrick (Female), 2 colors each of Anlucia and the Dragon Quest XI Hero
  • Slime appears on screen with a skill
  • Achieved through active collaboration on Square’s side
  • To the benefit of overseas marketing for the DQ series
More evidence that it is Erdrick
If this is legit though, I’m just excited that Erdrick will a) be an adult and b) have proper alternate costumes. Smash has always been lacking on that regard,
 

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For those who need a refresh, this is a key part of the 5ch leak

https://personacentral.com/rumor-pe...plete-edition-2019-super-smash-ultimate-leak/

  • Joker
  • The stage is Mementos
  • Jack Frost appears on screen with a skill
  • Marketing of P5R (complete version) and P5U (fighting game)
  • P5R is 2019
  • P5U is delayed because Arc is busy with the development of a Granblue fighting game

  • Erdrick
  • Stage is Alefgard
  • Erdrick (Male) and Erdrick (Female), 2 colors each of Anlucia and the Dragon Quest XI Hero
  • Slime appears on screen with a skill
  • Achieved through active collaboration on Square’s side
  • To the benefit of overseas marketing for the DQ series
More evidence that it is Erdrick
[Smiles in Akira Toriyama]
Come on boy/girl. Bring it home.

I can see why Mementos seems like an unpopular choice. Looks kind of depressing as far as visuals go compared with that casino. Wonder if we could get another SEGA song with the stage like we did with Bayonetta and Afterburner.
 
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If you've played Persona 5 you'd understand why it's the less than optimal pick.

The Casino is just so much better.
The Casino is indeed sexier than Mementos. I like Mementos as it is practically the structure of the entire game but the Casino has Wheel of Fate. Give and take. However, I don't doubt all of the Lyn songs are in the game. It'd be a crime if they left one out.
 
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So where did this guy come from? He has two posts on twitter and this is coming out of nowhere.

Gonna wait for someone else to verify this.
 

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If this is legit though, I’m just excited that Erdrick will a) be an adult and b) have proper alternate costumes. Smash has always been lacking on that regard,
290px-DQX_Characters.png



This girl is gonna give Joker a real run for his money as my main.
So where did this guy come from? He has two posts on twitter and this is coming out of nowhere.

Gonna wait for someone else to verify this.
I can vouch for his credibility. He's a legit dataminer from the Sm4sh era who knows Smash code well.
 
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Uh... One quick question:

Why is Mementos spelled as Menentoes ?

It's not a major deal, but it still seems kinda weird. Especially since the Japanese name is Mementosu.
 
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Mementos isn't bad just a bit abstract, but its kind of boring compared to other locations. I hope there's the P5 teammates narrating or making some bants with each other which was the best part of it. Its looking good for Erdrick, but still there is the aspect that each post in the leaks have different IDs which is kind of strange unless the person doing the leaks spoofed his address or changed locations to post it.
Speaking of, who's Anlucia? She looks cute.
She's like the hero equivalent in DQX, she is not a party member but a prominent character in the story.
 
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For those who need a refresh, this is a key part of the 5ch leak

https://personacentral.com/rumor-pe...plete-edition-2019-super-smash-ultimate-leak/

  • Joker
  • The stage is Mementos
  • Jack Frost appears on screen with a skill
  • Marketing of P5R (complete version) and P5U (fighting game)
  • P5R is 2019
  • P5U is delayed because Arc is busy with the development of a Granblue fighting game

  • Erdrick
  • Stage is Alefgard
  • Erdrick (Male) and Erdrick (Female), 2 colors each of Anlucia and the Dragon Quest XI Hero
  • Slime appears on screen with a skill
  • Achieved through active collaboration on Square’s side
  • To the benefit of overseas marketing for the DQ series
More evidence that it is Erdrick
Honestly if the 5chan leak proves true, I’ll be excited because that means Ryu Hayabusa is coming to Smash.



If you've played Persona 5 you'd understand why it's the less than optimal pick.

The Casino is just so much better.
Hmmm I wonder since Ray Chase is already in Smash as the VA of Roy. Will they get him to replay the subway announcer from Persona 5?

Also not sure how’d they’d do it since this track is so calm, but I’d love for this to be one of the songs the Persona stage comes with.

 
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I’ll take your words for it that Mementos is lame then. Haven’t played the game after all.
I do wonder how effective this hypothetically hypothetical DQ promotion will actually be. I noticed some people were already intrigued by the DQ content in the direct, so perhaps Erdrick is a way to encourage those people to finally take the leap. Interdasting stuff.
 

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There were 2 5ch leaks, the one with Doomguy, Steve and Ryu did not mention Mementos in it.
 

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Honestly if the 5chan leak proves true, I’ll be excited because that means Ryu Hayabusa is coming to Smash.
Wait... hold up. I get that this adds a point in favor of the Joker/Erdrick leak...

But let's not count this towards the Ryu/Steve/Doomguy leak, b/c we literally have nothing else in favor of those 3 characters besides the iffy nature surrounding Minecraft content in Smash.
 
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I don't trust the Doom leak one; I've heard it claims to have gotten its info from a Reddit post that apparently don't exist.
 

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Yeah, that one 5ch leak with Doomguy and company still smells like a fat load to me. However, the fact that Joker's stage is Mementos does score another point for Erdrick. If Alefgard is somehow found in the strings somewhere, that'll end up sealing the deal, but I don't think Erdrick would be as far along as Joker, stage included.
 

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I wouldn't count Mementos towards anything, I think most assumed that was the safest bet for a Persona 5 stage anyway. It would've been great if we got something other than Mementos, like the Velvet Room or obviosuly the Casino if we were REALLY lucky!

If the dataminers find anything else, I'll be somewhat surprised. The fact that Nintendo were so quick to remove the Brave stuff before the 2.0.0 update, it just seemed like maybe they were aware that people were finding stuff and that's why the stats weren't there anymore. Then again, 3.0.0 is coming, but I really would be surprised if they were to find anything else, especially if the character itself is still very far along.
 
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Mementos isn't bad just a bit abstract, but its kind of boring compared to other locations. I hope there's the P5 teammates narrating or making some bants with each other which was the best part of it. Its looking good for Erdrick, but still there is the aspect that each post in the leaks have different IDs which is kind of strange unless the person doing the leaks spoofed his address or changed locations to post it.

She's like the hero equivalent in DQX, she is not a party member but a prominent character in the story.
Gotcha. I know nothing about Dragon Quest 10 but she looks alright. Assuming this 5chan leak is the thing, we're running around an assumption that Erdrick's moveset will also have to apply to two other characters. Not impossible or troubling in the slightest given how most protagonists are practically almost identical in utility.
 

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Mementos is just a large random place, and I dont know if it'd be considered defining for persona 5, for me it does say something about this new data, because it could've been a lot of other things, even if it had a chance to be in.
It might be bland in some ways, but it depends which parts they use for it. Here's a bit of footage from the depths.

 
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Gotcha. I know nothing about Dragon Quest 10 but she looks alright. Assuming this 5chan leak is the thing, we're running around an assumption that Erdrick's moveset will also have to apply to two other characters. Not impossible or troubling in the slightest given how most protagonists are practically almost identical in utility.
Well, it seems to refer to the Anlucia and Luminary alts as pallet swaps for female and male Erdrick respectively, if not for both. They wouldn't have to worry about that in such a case.
 

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I wouldn't count Mementos towards anything, I think most assumed that was the safest bet for a Persona 5 stage anyway. It would've been great if we got something other than Mementos, like the Velvet Room or obviosuly the Casino if we were REALLY lucky!

If the dataminers find anything else, I'll be somewhat surprised. The fact that Nintendo were so quick to remove the Brave stuff before the 2.0.0 update, it just seemed like maybe they were aware that people were finding stuff and that's why the stats weren't there anymore. Then again, 3.0.0 is coming, but I really would be surprised if they were to find anything else, especially if the character itself is still very far along.
Hell naw, safest bet were definitely Casino with a very distant second being the Castle.
 
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Well, it seems to refer to the Anlucia and Luminary alts as pallet swaps for female and male Erdrick respectively, if not for both. They wouldn't have to worry about that in such a case.
Ah. I see what you're seeing. Thought we'd be getting for alt costumes in one character.
 

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If Erdrick doesn't get an Eight alt but gets Luminary and Anlucia I'm gonna be pissed
Well if the leaks are true it's still possible the leakers didn't know all the alts. I do think eight would be good to add for the popularity. But if they wanted 2 colors for each (well one color swap for each character) then we can only have 4 dq characters in one slot. but yeah more would be nice :)
 
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