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[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

Who do you think is the most likely possible Square-Enix Newcomer? (Two Choices possibles)


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Masked Marshmallow

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well that still sounds sick af
He can summon lightning, create blades of wind and drop the holy heaven's light on people. He can also combine his attacks with his partners to set himself on fire and spin as a flaming drill, change the element of his sword, kick people so hard that they explode, summon tornadoes, etc. He has a really cool moveset.
 
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He can summon lightning, create blades of wind and drop the holy heaven's light on people. He can also combine his attacks with his partners to set himself on fire and spin as a flaming drill, change the element of his sword, kick people so hard that they explode, summon tornadoes, etc. He has a really cool moveset.
damn i think i support crono now he sounds cool as hell
 
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Zubyyyy

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Saw this on a twitter thread from NoA. Seems like all the responses are in reference to the hopes of a Direct. This one made me laugh and I plan on using it all the time.
LOL.jpg

On topic.
Gimme Geno, Sora or Chrono.
 

Teeb147

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Alright so let's actually just look at these Brave stats.

Brave
Run Speed: 1.74
Weight: 101
Air Speed: 1.14
Air Acceleration: 0.055
Other stats: ? (if someone wants to find more)


Let's look who's around those stats :
(around 6-7 chracters on both sides)

Run Speed
Rosalina (1.79), Duck Hunt (1.79), Mario (1.76), Ken (1.76), Bayonetta (1.76), Squirtle (1.76), Young Link (1.74), Kirby (1.723), R.O.B. (1.725), Lucario (1.705), Nana (1.68), Mr. Game & Watch (1.68), Shulk (1.67)

Zoners: Duck Hunt, Young Link, Rob?
-> 2 or 3 out of 13 characters


Weight
Yoshi (104), Captain Falcon (104), Mii Gunner (104), Ken (103), Ryu (103), Mega Man (102), Cloud (100), Swordfighter (100), Corrin (98), Mario (98), Dr Mario (98), Luigi ( 97)

Zoners: Mii Gunner, Mega Man
-> 2 out of 12 characters


Air Speed
Sheik (1.155), Cloud (1.155), Bowser (1.155), Duck Hunt (1.155), Lucas (1.155), Mega Man (1.155), Mii Brawler (1.15), R.O.B. (1.134), Bowser Jr (1.134), Ike (1.134), Ken (1.12), Ryu (1.12), Shulk (1.113), Fox (1.11)

Zoners: Duck Hunt, Mega Man, Rob?
-> 2 or 3 out of 14 characters


I'll stop there for now. I think you get the point. We could do more in other posts. But just to make sure and look at the recurring names and see if there's a pattern on top of that, there's:
Mario (twice), Ken (three times), Mega Man (twice), Cloud (twice), Rob (twice), Shulk (twice), Duck Hunt (twice), Ryu (twice)
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Ken shows up the most, and other than that there's more non-zoners that recur. (more than zoners, even when counting rob as a zoner). Im not counting Ryu.


As for the floatiness. I dont think it means overly much, especially based on how the stats are on ike:

There was a problem fetching the tweet

So there you go. If someone wants to look further, please do. But I think this is pretty good to tell some basic things about 'Brave'. And also points out why I think the zoner theory is obviously flawed. There might be some interesting comparisons to make besides that. If I missed something or If you see anything interesting, please bring it up :)

Thanks. & hope this is helpful :)

Edit: I removed young link from the part I said he recurs. Thought I saw him twice :O
 
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Alright so let's actually just look at these Brave stats.

Brave
Run Speed: 1.74
Weight: 101
Air Speed: 1.14
Air Acceleration: 0.055
Other stats: ? (if someone wants to find more)


Let's look who's around those stats :
(around 6-7 chracters on both sides)

Run Speed
Rosalina (1.79), Duck Hunt (1.79), Mario (1.76), Ken (1.76), Bayonetta (1.76), Squirtle (1.76), Young Link (1.74), Kirby (1.723), R.O.B. (1.725), Lucario (1.705), Nana (1.68), Mr. Game & Watch (1.68), Shulk (1.67)

Zoners: Duck Hunt, Young Link, Rob?
-> 2 or 3 out of 13 characters


Weight
Yoshi (104), Captain Falcon (104), Mii Gunner (104), Ken (103), Ryu (103), Mega Man (102), Cloud (100), Swordfighter (100), Corrin (98), Mario (98), Dr Mario (98), Luigi ( 97)

Zoners: Mii Gunner, Mega Man
-> 2 out of 12 characters


Air Speed
Sheik (1.155), Cloud (1.155), Bowser (1.155), Duck Hunt (1.155), Lucas (1.155), Mega Man (1.155), Mii Brawler (1.15), R.O.B. (1.134), Bowser Jr (1.134), Ike (1.134), Ken (1.12), Ryu (1.12), Shulk (1.113), Fox (1.11)

Zoners: Duck Hunt, Mega Man, Rob?
-> 2 or 3 out of 14 characters


I'll stop there for now. I think you get the point. We could do more in other posts. But just to make sure and look at the recurring names and see if there's a pattern on top of that, there's:
Mario (twice), Ken (three times), Mega Man (twice), Cloud (twice), Rob (twice), Shulk (twice), Duck Hunt (twice), Ryu (twice)
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Ken shows up the most, and other than that there's more non-zoners that recur. (close to as many zoners if you count rob as a zoner). Im not counting Ryu.


As for the floatiness. I dont think it means overly much, especially based on how the stats are on ike:

There was a problem fetching the tweet

So there you go. If someone wants to look further, please do. But I think this is pretty good to tell some basic things about 'Brave'. And also points out why I think the zoner theory is obviously flawed. There might be some interesting comparisons to make besides that. If I missed something or If you see anything interesting, please bring it up :)

Thanks. & hope this is helpful :)

Edit: I removed young link from the part I said he recurs. Thought I saw him twice :O
First off props to you for the Research that'll be helpful. and Secondly even though the stats fit more with characters along the lines of Mario that can be compared to "Brave" think about how the roster is like 3/4th made of Brawler characters and it's a little one sided when we don't have a ton of Zoners. Impressively enough even though we don't have many Zoners somebody like Megaman who is a Zoner still fits along the stats of "Brave". Really "Brave" can be anyone at this point Hell I'm even considering Banjo could be the "Brave" Character.
 

DaxMasterix

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First off props to you for the Research that'll be helpful. and Secondly even though the stats fit more with characters along the lines of Mario that can be compared to "Brave" think about how the roster is like 3/4th made of Brawler characters and it's a little one sided when we don't have a ton of Zoners. Impressively enough even though we don't have many Zoners somebody like Megaman who is a Zoner still fits along the stats of "Brave". Really "Brave" can be anyone at this point Hell I'm even considering Banjo could be the "Brave" Character.
See how in the end Brave is an out-of-nowhere character
You'll never see it coming (8)
 

shocktarts17

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Alright so let's actually just look at these Brave stats.

Brave
Run Speed: 1.74
Weight: 101
Air Speed: 1.14
Air Acceleration: 0.055
Other stats: ? (if someone wants to find more)


Let's look who's around those stats :
(around 6-7 chracters on both sides)

Run Speed
Rosalina (1.79), Duck Hunt (1.79), Mario (1.76), Ken (1.76), Bayonetta (1.76), Squirtle (1.76), Young Link (1.74), Kirby (1.723), R.O.B. (1.725), Lucario (1.705), Nana (1.68), Mr. Game & Watch (1.68), Shulk (1.67)

Zoners: Duck Hunt, Young Link, Rob?
-> 2 or 3 out of 13 characters


Weight
Yoshi (104), Captain Falcon (104), Mii Gunner (104), Ken (103), Ryu (103), Mega Man (102), Cloud (100), Swordfighter (100), Corrin (98), Mario (98), Dr Mario (98), Luigi ( 97)

Zoners: Mii Gunner, Mega Man
-> 2 out of 12 characters


Air Speed
Sheik (1.155), Cloud (1.155), Bowser (1.155), Duck Hunt (1.155), Lucas (1.155), Mega Man (1.155), Mii Brawler (1.15), R.O.B. (1.134), Bowser Jr (1.134), Ike (1.134), Ken (1.12), Ryu (1.12), Shulk (1.113), Fox (1.11)

Zoners: Duck Hunt, Mega Man, Rob?
-> 2 or 3 out of 14 characters


I'll stop there for now. I think you get the point. We could do more in other posts. But just to make sure and look at the recurring names and see if there's a pattern on top of that, there's:
Mario (twice), Ken (three times), Mega Man (twice), Cloud (twice), Rob (twice), Shulk (twice), Duck Hunt (twice), Ryu (twice)
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Ken shows up the most, and other than that there's more non-zoners that recur. (more than zoners, even when counting rob as a zoner). Im not counting Ryu.


As for the floatiness. I dont think it means overly much, especially based on how the stats are on ike:

There was a problem fetching the tweet

So there you go. If someone wants to look further, please do. But I think this is pretty good to tell some basic things about 'Brave'. And also points out why I think the zoner theory is obviously flawed. There might be some interesting comparisons to make besides that. If I missed something or If you see anything interesting, please bring it up :)

Thanks. & hope this is helpful :)

Edit: I removed young link from the part I said he recurs. Thought I saw him twice :O
Hmm that's interesting. Your data write up is well done and there is no arguing with the data but the fact that it went so against what was being said I went back to look at Fatman's first post about it and I noticed while you're comparing Run speed, Weight, and Air Speed he was comparing Landing lag. Now I can't remember, was landing lag the one that all matched Joker's stats? If so that could mean the zoner theory might not hold up as well.

Edit: That said he also did a bunch of other analysis discussing Brave's run speed, weight, and air speed so then again maybe not.

https://smashboards.com/threads/brave-new-character-datamined.470443/#post-22921178
 
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Let's assume Erdrick is the Square rep What music are people hoping to come with him? Cause no offense but the DQ Music isn't all that great, not the worst but not super catchy like Banjo music or hype like other games.

Edit: But really thinking about it, is anything better than Banjo music? It's so simple yet charming and fitting for the kind of game it is. off topic but I adore Banjo music. So good.
 
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What if brave is a Fire Emblem character who's game also hasn't come out of Japan yet
 
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What if brave is a Fire Emblem character who's game also hasn't come out of Japan yet
Brave is a Fire Emblem character from a game that will be released in 10 years. Nintendo is really trying to promote it early, but I think they might be going a bit far here.
 
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Brave is a Fire Emblem character from a game that will be released in 10 years. Nintendo is really trying to promote it early, but I think they might be going a bit far here.
Broke: Brave is Geno/Erdrick/Sora/Whoever

Woke: Brave is a Japan-Exclusive fire emblem character

Super woke: Brave is a fire emblem character that won't release until a decade has passed

Wokest: Brave is a Fire Emblem character that's game got cancelled
 
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Broke: Brave is Geno/Erdrick/Sora/Whoever

Woke: Brave is a Japan-Exclusive fire emblem character

Super woke: Brave is a fire emblem character that won't release until a decade has passed

Wokest: Brave is a Fire Emblem character that's game got cancelled
Galaxy woke: Brave is from a Fire Emblem fan game dating simulator.

also I wouldn't actually mind if Brave was from Fire emblem...
 
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Brave is a Fire Emblem character from a game that will be released in 10 years. Nintendo is really trying to promote it early, but I think they might be going a bit far here.
This FE game will come out when Mother 3 gets localized
 
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Broke: Brave is Geno/Erdrick/Sora/Whoever

Woke: Brave is a Japan-Exclusive fire emblem character

Super woke: Brave is a fire emblem character that won't release until a decade has passed

Wokest: Brave is a Fire Emblem character that's game got cancelled
TRANSCENDANT: Geno was a Fire Emblem character the entire time.
 

TheYungLink

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Let's assume Erdrick is the Square rep What music are people hoping to come with him? Cause no offense but the DQ Music isn't all that great, not the worst but not super catchy like Banjo music or hype like other games.

Edit: But really thinking about it, is anything better than Banjo music? It's so simple yet charming and fitting for the kind of game it is. off topic but I adore Banjo music. So good.
Calene had a pretty good list here:

About the whole music topic, I've been seeing some underselling of DQ in that department. I just thought I'd jump in and post some great DQ music to show that the series does in fact have some amazing tracks:

The Ocean

Lively Village

Days of Sadness

Memories of a Lost World

Town Square Banquet

Mysterious Tower

A Quiet Village

Homeland

DQ's music has this unique, classical sound to it that I happen to really enjoy. Sure, it's not everybody's thing, but feel free to check some of these out if you're interested.
 

ZelDan

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Man.

Now we got to the point when characters disguise themselves as Fire Emblem characters just to get in Smash.
Sakurai: "okay, what game are you from?"

Geno in a blue hair wig: "uhhhh...Fire Emblem: Seven Stars?"

Sakurai: "*sigh*...Geno, we've been over this..."
 
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Calene had a pretty good list here:
Okay, I just finished checking those songs out and for the most part they made me tired cause they're super soothing and calm. Which isn't a bad thing necessarily but you don't want to put in music that would make somebody fall asleep. The Music for the most part is pretty good but my favorites are Memories of a lost world, Town Square banquet and A Quiet Village. Overall not bad music, I don't think those kinds of songs fit in smash but not bad.
 
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Okay, I just finished checking those songs out and for the most part they made me tired cause they're super soothing and calm. Which isn't a bad thing necessarily but you don't want to put in music that would make somebody fall asleep. The Music for the most part is pretty good but my favorites are Memories of a lost world, Town Square banquet and A Quiet Village. Overall not bad music, I don't think those kinds of songs fit in smash but not bad.
I would say these are much more fit for Smash:
Battle DQ1
Battle DQ2
Overworld DQ3
Battle DQ3
Final Battle DQ3
Battle DQ4
Gypsy's Dance DQ4
I stuck to the NES games for these, but I can post more if you'd like.
 
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I would say these are much more fit for Smash:
Battle DQ1
Battle DQ2
Overworld DQ3
Battle DQ3
Final Battle DQ3
Battle DQ4
Gypsy's Dance DQ4
I stuck to the NES games for these, but I can post more if you'd like.
I think this is a decent sample of songs. Thanks for the response and Here's my thoughts on them if you or anyone else are curious.
First one: I can definitely see getting in alongside Erdrick. It
seems like it could fit well within Smash.

Second one: I guess it could fit but I feel like the first fits
better than this one. Not to say this one wouldn't fit though since
it could.

Third one: Very Classical but with a Remix I think it could be worked
on and be put in the game. Though I don't see DQ getting any remixes
and instead just a bunch of MIDI's.

Fourth one: Could very well fit within Smash. it has that Exciting
factor Sakurai said he and his team are looking for within the songs
this time around and I don't know why they would change their opinion
all of a sudden.

Fifth one: Could work. Personally I don't really like it but in an
Obvective viewpoint it works.

Sixth one: Also Works I guess. Not much to say here since a good
chunk of the song is like the first song.

Seventh one: Now this is more my kinda style. Works pretty well in
all honesty, Kind of a banger too.
 
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Let's assume Erdrick is the Square rep What music are people hoping to come with him? Cause no offense but the DQ Music isn't all that great, not the worst but not super catchy like Banjo music or hype like other games.

Edit: But really thinking about it, is anything better than Banjo music? It's so simple yet charming and fitting for the kind of game it is. off topic but I adore Banjo music. So good.
Seriously, I understand not being fond of DQ. But I do feel that the "no offence but this is better", is not the way to ask for music samples. Especially since what Banjo aims for music to what DQ or any other RPG is different.

Is there anything better than banjo music is in the eye on the beholder. And I feel DKC is better.
 
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Seriously, I understand not being fond of DQ. But I do feel that the "no offence but this is better", is not the way to ask for music samples. Especially since what Banjo aims for music to what DQ or any other RPG is different.

Is there anything better than banjo music is in the eye on the beholder. And I feel DKC is better.
Yeah..I guess I did kinda phrase that wrong and comparing it to one thing that tries to do something different isn't exactly a fair comparison. I apologize for doing that next time I'll try and phrase my questions better.

Edit: And the Banjo thing I was asking a rhetorical question cause it depends on who your asking. in my opinion Banjo music is great.
 
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Teeb147

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First off props to you for the Research that'll be helpful. and Secondly even though the stats fit more with characters along the lines of Mario that can be compared to "Brave" think about how the roster is like 3/4th made of Brawler characters and it's a little one sided when we don't have a ton of Zoners. Impressively enough even though we don't have many Zoners somebody like Megaman who is a Zoner still fits along the stats of "Brave". Really "Brave" can be anyone at this point Hell I'm even considering Banjo could be the "Brave" Character.
Hmm that's interesting. Your data write up is well done and there is no arguing with the data but the fact that it went so against what was being said I went back to look at Fatman's first post about it and I noticed while you're comparing Run speed, Weight, and Air Speed he was comparing Landing lag. Now I can't remember, was landing lag the one that all matched Joker's stats? If so that could mean the zoner theory might not hold up as well.

Edit: That said he also did a bunch of other analysis discussing Brave's run speed, weight, and air speed so then again maybe not.

https://smashboards.com/threads/brave-new-character-datamined.470443/#post-22921178
Alright I'm back.

One of the reasons I wanted to find and share the stats is to show a fuller picture.
A lot of fatmanonice's analysis was based on some of the zoners being able to relate the same stats somewhat well, and it overlooks the rest of it. I think it's easy to see the bigger picture when you look at the other characters around the stats too. Yes some of the zoners could fit well enough, but there's more that aren't zoners around the stats too. That doesn't mean that it couldn't be a zoner. I think it's anyone's game. (well, we might find more stuff)

Geno could fit the stats fine, and so could sora and erdrick or other ones. Geno has the height going in his favor as well. Erdrick as the codename and leaks, and Sora could possibly work with everything. It could also be something that isn't SE.

And yeah the landing data is a copy-paste of Joker's, so we can't really say much from it. Though I do wonder why it's the only thing they copied from joker. :O
 
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TRANSCENDED BEYOND OMNIPOTENT: GENO IS EVERYBODY'S WAIFU EVEN SAKURAI'S AND SAKURAI JUST DOESN'T WANT TO HURT HIS WAIFU BY PUTTING GENO IN SMASH
BEST TIMELINE

I THOUGHT JOKER WAS SAKURAI'S WAIFU BUT I BELIEVE THIS NOW
 

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According to SMRPG's script, Geno is male, so he'd be a husbando.

Seriously, husbando is as prevalent as waifu is everywhere except game forums.
 
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Ignore this. Tried to do a Joke but the thing I copied did not appear.
 
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Teeb147

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According to SMRPG's script, Geno is male, so he'd be a husbando.

Seriously, husbando is as prevalent as waifu is everywhere except game forums.
Where does it say that Geno is male? the doll looks male-ish but afaik it's never said anywhere in the game or in manuals.
 
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