[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

[Luigi The President]

Yoko Taro and John Carmack shouted out??

I'm gonna jump to conclusions and pretend 2B has a shot.

My dear Flyboy what happened last time we thought any Squenix character had a shot

 

[OpticalBlast]

Remember when this was the Square Enix thread?

I don't.

That's what I want anyways, and you should respect that.

Lol ok

 

[RileyXY1]

Sure I'll respect what you want, but I'm not gonna respect you saying there's a "good chance" it'll be all Japanese. Because that's a bull**** claim.

Why is it? We're not guaranteed a Western character or anything.

 

[EarlTamm]

Why is it? We're not guaranteed a Western character or anything.

We are not guaranteed all Japanese characters either. Anything could happen.

 

[Luigi The President]

Why is it? We're not guaranteed a Western character or anything.

And we're not guaranteed it to be all Japanese.

A large portion of Smash's sales is the West.
And if that's not good enough for you;

Remember what place got Bayo in?
Not Japan.

The United Kingdom.

So hopefully I won't have to hear any more parading about "all Japan" after that, because even Smash 4 proved that to be untrue.

 

[jokermelee]

Except Sakurai isn't choosing the characters. Nintendo is, and they don't care about what Sakurai's wants.

they're most likely doing promotional characters for games possibly coming to Switch, this leak it seems to emphasize them going with characters for upcoming Switch releases (previously released ones in Steves case).

There still is a good chance that the Fighter Pass will be all Japanese. That's what I want anyways, and you should respect that.

there's nothing preventing Nintendo from advertising to an overseas market with a western character like Doomguy, while at the same time still catering to Japan with characters like Erdrick. Steve would be a character would appeals internationally and to casual gamers, even if he's from the west.

 

[EarlTamm]

they're most likely doing promotional characters for games possibly coming to Switch, this leak it seems to emphasize them going with characters for upcoming Switch releases (previously released ones in Steves case).

there's nothing preventing Nintendo from advertising to an overseas market with a western character like Doomguy, while at the same time still catering to Japan with characters like Erdrick. Steve would be a character would appeals internationally and to casual gamers, even if he's from the west.

The next Doom game is going to be on the Switch, so that makes sense.

 

[RileyXY1]

And we're not guaranteed it to be all Japanese.

A large portion of Smash's sales is the West.
And if that's not good enough for you;

Remember what place got Bayo in?
Not Japan.

The United Kingdom.

So hopefully I won't have to hear any more parading about "all Japan" after that, because even Smash 4 proved that to be untrue.

When I say that the characters will be all Japanese, I am saying that all the characters will be from Japanese franchises.

 

[Flyboy]

My dear Flyboy what happened last time we thought any Squenix character had a shot

...



God, are you punishing me?

 

[Luigi The President]

When I say that the characters will be all Japanese, I am saying that all the characters will be from Japanese franchises.

I mean, regardless, Bayo still got in to appeal to a place that isn't Japan. Don't know why this isn't enough to blow this claim out.
Characters like Steve that may get in have international appeal.

There have to be characters that places outside of Japan have proven themselves to want. That's just simple financial logic. Doomguy has risen up incredibly fast as a frontrunner for any sort of Smash in the future, and seeing as his Western appeal is pretty obvious, and seeing as he'd be one of the perfect picks for any sort of Western appeal...

I dunno why your claim still exists.

 

[Deleted member]

I feel that searching for Sakurai giving shoutouts to devs/series/characters is kind of useless considering that he likes a lot of things so while it helps it doesn't secure things. Dunno what to make about Doomguy in Smash as while I played old Doom, Doomguy seems to be a character that uses exclusively guns with a few of the realistic category.

Uh, yeah, they don't, but Doomguy is one of the best "Western" third party picks out there. Let's not fool ourselves here.

I would say Crash Bandicoot would be better considering Crash being popular WW and this way we could have the best PSASBR game with Ultimate(considering Cloud, Joker and Snake).

 

[RileyXY1]

I mean, regardless, Bayo still got in to appeal to a place that isn't Japan. Don't know why this isn't enough to blow this claim out.
Characters like Steve that may get in have international appeal.

There have to be characters that places outside of Japan have proven themselves to want. That's just simple financial logic. Doomguy has risen up incredibly fast as a frontrunner for any sort of Smash in the future, and seeing as his Western appeal is pretty obvious, and seeing as he'd be one of the perfect picks for any sort of Western appeal...

I dunno why your claim still exists.

I think that if any Western character gets in, they will have global appeal. Doomguy doesn't.

 

[Luigi The President]

I think that if any Western character gets in, they will have global appeal. Doomguy doesn't.

Can you actually source this thing about Doomguy not having global appeal or are you gonna keep using it with no backup

 

[Hydrualic Hydra]

Tansut clears me of most suspicion. If he *says* Erdrick, then it's pretty damn likely to be Erdrick. I hate to pour salt in a wound, but I think Geno's chances were sealed the instant he got a Spirit.

As of now, the character gets a rousing 'eh' from me, but I trust Sakurai and the team to make him interesting and fun. (Just please for god's sake give us more Spirits than just a Fighter Spirit)

And if that rumored list of DLC characters is true, then OH BOY. Steve is another 'eh', I don't mind him as long as he's not too aesthetically unpleasing, but Ryu Hayabusa and Doomguy have me practically salivating. Oldschool Ninja Gaiden is my jam, and Doomguy is among my most-wanted 3rd-party reps, dis is gonna be good.

 

[RileyXY1]

Can you actually source this thing about Doomguy not having global appeal or are you gonna keep using it with no backup

FPSes are very niche in Japan and Doomguy doesn't appeal well to Japanese audiences as a result. They need to implement characters that appeal to the Japanese audience and the international audience to get the most sales. You can't do that with an FPS character until FPSes suddenly become more popular in Japan.

 

[Luigi The President]

FPSes are very niche in Japan and Doomguy doesn't appeal well to Japanese audiences as a result. They need to implement characters that appeal to the Japanese audience and the international audience to get the most sales. You can't do that with an FPS character until FPSes suddenly become more popular in Japan.

I'm still waiting for actual sources here. How do you know Doom apparently doesn't sell in Japan? If it didn't then why would they even release it over there?

 

[Deleted member]

Shi please I am so tired.

THIS IS THE LAST TIME I CAN ARGUE ABOUT VIDEO GAMES IN 2018 LET ME HAVE THIS

So why did you claim that he has jack squat to say in the matter then? That's a contradiction.

I said his own preferences don't matter because he didn't choose the characters. That's not a contradiction.

Furthermore, do you have the source that explicitly clarifies it could only be if he had issues with them and nothing else?

You really think a professional game developer would turn down developing a character because of his own personal opinion on them?

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

Psh, forget Doomguy, let's put Scorpion in the game as the western rep.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Psh, forget Doomguy, let's put Scorpion in the game as the western rep.

If Doom Guy doesn't have a chance due to gore, Scorpion sure as hell doesn't.

Gore in Japan is to sexual content in America. Because of this, Mortal Kombat might as well be non-existent in Japan.

 

[DaxMasterix]

I think that if any Western character gets in, they will have global appeal. Doomguy doesn't.

Nani? Don't you dare to underrate our beloved doomguy,
I don't want to turn on the doots kid

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/1074897993235484672
https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/1074898466915020800
https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/1074899214503632897

I don't know how to thread tweets so here they are in order.

Full translation:
I am asking for your wants not predictions.
Putting moves aside, Wonder-Red and Joe could work as Mii costumes, and Dante would be difficult for rating reasons (don't ask me then why Beyo got in?).
I think Amaterasu is the only choice.

Yap... about half of the world's population saying that they want Joe to join the battles.

By the way, when I was drinking with Takushu (Shu Takumi) yesterday he said "why they don't put Phoenix Wright in" ...

Hmmm. I may have found an interesting followup to that.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[Flyboy]

The lineup is tough for me.

I love Minecraft so Steve is cool and fun and even a little funny to me. As a character it's tough but moveset would be great. Thumbs up.

I'd prefer Dovahkiin as a Bethesda rep by a country mile because I just like the heavy medieval weaponry more, but I respect Doom immensely.

Erdrick is someone I actually predicted for a while during base roster days to my friends and I like Toriyama and everything I learn about DQ3 so I'm sold.

But Ryu Hayabusa...has the pedigree for sure and I do really like Ninja Gaiden...so he's definitely cool. I used to joke that Greninja only exists because they couldn't get the Hayabusa rights.

At the same time no one but Joker is my GOTTA HAVE EM list, but y'know at the same time Joker was the most impossible absolutely insane pick that I never dreamed would make it so I'm not gonna get all whiny.

My number one hope is that, even if that is the final list, we get some kind of surprise whether that be in an unusual stage choice or alt costume.

 

[RileyXY1]

I'm still waiting for actual sources here. How do you know Doom apparently doesn't sell in Japan? If it didn't then why would they even release it over there?

The Japanese also hate excessive gore. Mortal Kombat sells so poorly there that the franchise is completely non-existent.

 

[Luigi The President]

The Japanese also hate excessive gore. Mortal Kombat sells so poorly there that the franchise is completely non-existent.

You know what, alright man.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

My dear Flyboy what happened last time we thought any Squenix character had a shot

Ummmm. "Looking cool Erdrick?" He is a Square Enix character after all.

 

[Flyboy]

Ummmm. "Looking cool Erdrick?" He is a Square Enix character after all.

She clearly meant any other non-Erdrick Square character man you really gotta chill sometimes

 

[Luigi The President]

Ummmm. "Looking cool Erdrick?" He is a Square Enix character after all.

Hahahahaha oh man he's a Squenix rep? Ohh mannnn haha I had noooo ****ing idea man ooooh man thank you for the correction man hahahaaaaa

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

She clearly meant any other non-Erdrick Square character man you really gotta chill sometimes

Hmm? What's wrong? I don't mean anything harsh by it. Just a bit confused with the statement that's all.

Though to be fair....nothing technically has "happened" yet until we actually see a new DLC character confirmed and before our eyes.

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

If Doom Guy doesn't have a chance due to gore, Scorpion sure as hell doesn't.

Gore in Japan is to sexual content in America. Because of this, Mortal Kombat might as well be non-existent in Japan.

I know, but shhhhhh, let me dream.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Hahahahaha oh man he's a Squenix rep? Ohh mannnn haha I had noooo ****ing idea man ooooh man thank you for the correction man hahahaaaaa

Ummmm. I'm sorry? Look, like I said, nothing has "happened the last time". I wouldn't give up hope on anything just yet.

 

[Luigi The President]

Ummmm. I'm sorry? Look, like I said, nothing has "happened the last time". I wouldn't give up hope on anything just yet.

Haha no I'm done dude, you and I both know it's Erdrick
To clarify what I meant; I meant "what happened when we put stock in any Squenix character" because neither Fly nor myself wanted Erdrick the most for a Squenix rep.

 

[Deleted member]

FPS have gotten more popular in Japan over the years, but last Doom performed pretty badly with about 6k opening sales.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pl...s-1st-homefront-outsells-doom-battleborn/amp/

TGS 2018 for Ace Attorney fans in a nutshell. Eh heh. Yeah, it can sting something fierce.

That was awful, was hoping that they would reveal AA7 or at least the complete the series in HD.

 

[Luigi The President]

FPS have gotten more popular in Japan over the years, but last Doom performed pretty badly with about 6k opening sales.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pl...s-1st-homefront-outsells-doom-battleborn/amp/

That was awful, was hoping that they would reveal AA7 or at least complete the series in HD.

THANK you. THIS is what I actually needed to understand that Doom wasn't popular.

Hey, this adds more fuel for my Dovahkiin fire seeing as Skyrim was a big deal in Japan AND has global appeal!

 

[Robertman2]

How have the old school Dooms in Japan?

also Japan dislikes Metroid so that isn't even a good arguement lol

 

[Luigi The President]

How have the old school Dooms in Japan?

also Japan dislikes Metroid so that isn't even a good arguement lol

Metroid is first party..big differences here

 

[-Coco-]

As you can tell, I've given up.
This is such a great thing to wake up to.

Would appreciate it if one of you could warm me up to Erdrick. Lol.

Would quoting the post you made about the Luminary help?

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#LuminaryLovers when a DLC character trailer drops and they immediately see a set of hair resembling the McDonald's logo and realize they won

**** still gets me.

 

[Luigi The President]

Would quoting the post you made about the Luminary help?





**** still gets me.

+1 for reminding me about the one (1) good post I've made on this site and another +1 because you have a cool Erdrick icon so that's 2 points for Erdrick good job

 

[-Coco-]

+1 for reminding me about the one (1) good post I've made on this site and another +1 because you have a cool Erdrick icon so that's 2 points for Erdrick good job

The funny thing is I actually think Erdrick has a really cool story and the ending of DQ3 is almost tragic. Much like Geno's in a sense.

 

[TheYungLink]

I don't have any statistics but yeah, from what I know gore is very much disliked in Japan.

Blood, however, is okay, which is why Bayonetta is playable (her games are super bloody but not gory), in case anyone was going to bring her up as a counter example.

Also I can't lie, I'm super happy that the guy who leaked Cloud is also saying Erdrick is in. However, due to the cruelty of the universe, I'll say it's still up in the air until we get actual confirmation. If Erdrick is in, I want to reiterate that I do still want Geno (and Mallow) to get into Smash someday, I'm not completely happy that Erdrick would be getting in "over" those two.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Doom discussion? FPS's are not popular in Japan because for whatever reason the first person view triggers motion sickness in a lot of Japanese gamers. It's something genetic supposedly and a giant part of the reason why Splatoon has been a runaway success while the Metroid Prime games did comically awful. "A shooting game that doesn't make me want to projectile vomit? Hell yes!"