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[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

Who do you think is the most likely possible Square-Enix Newcomer? (Two Choices possibles)


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"Jack Frost appears on screen with a skill"
"Slime appears on screen with a skill"
This seems to imply that these two characters appear specifically on screen as part of a moveset, and I can't help but think that if they simply meant a moveset and not a video, they'd have said "Jack Frost appears in their moveset" and not have specifically stated on screen.
It may just be a translation thing, but someone will have to check. Japanese text can have a lot of different meanings to it. But yeah, if they did explicitly say that it's "on screen" then that would be pretty odd.
 

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Right now the Erdrick and P5 leak has taken a big hit as Joker has been stated to not even be in a playable state; which is why his trailer was entirely animated.
If Joker isn't in that state yet, how could Joker AND Erdrick both be in a state to have models, alt costumes, stages, and portions of their moveset shown?
I have to agree here. Honestly, I know that this is the Square Enix thread, but since Joker is what we currently have to go off from as a DLC character and with Sakurai's comments on Joker's progress we really should have called out that leak when it stated what content the character would get, even if the content itself makes sense.

Even if were suppose to believe that Polar says that the Atlus stuff almost seems correct, but don't know about the Square stuff. Yes, the Gran Blue thing ended up being right, (but every other leaker has been saying that for a while), if anything the rest just seems like guesses to me. Sakurai's comments about the content behind the leak, doesn't really help it much. The fact that he basically said that Joker isn't even in a playable stage, so really how would they had known what would come with Joker? These are the questions I've been thinking about since that Famitsu column came out.
 
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http://shoryuken.com/2018/12/27/toe...th-blocking-dragon-ball-fighterz-tournaments/

So, this has dropped. Apparently, Toei are not responsible for the DBZF ban. We still don't know who is behind it all, though, given the licensing hell that is Dragon Ball as a whole. This takes away Toei as a possible suspect, though, and we still have Bamco themselves and Bird Studio (+Toriyama) wedged in there. No idea what any of this means for the DQ reps or Crono, especially since the culprit hasn't yet been confirmed...
 

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http://shoryuken.com/2018/12/27/toe...th-blocking-dragon-ball-fighterz-tournaments/

So, this has dropped. Apparently, Toei are not responsible for the DBZF ban. We still don't know who is behind it all, though, given the licensing hell that is Dragon Ball as a whole. This takes away Toei as a possible suspect, though, and we still have Bamco themselves and Bird Studio (+Toriyama) wedged in there. No idea what any of this means for the DQ reps or Crono, especially since the culprit hasn't yet been confirmed...
Don't forget Shueshia
 

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Right now the Erdrick and P5 leak has taken a big hit as Joker has been stated to not even be in a playable state; which is why his trailer was entirely animated.
If Joker isn't in that state yet, how could Joker AND Erdrick both be in a state to have models, alt costumes, stages, and portions of their moveset shown?
Thank goodness. I've resigned myself for Erdrick, although I'm considering Sora more and more, but I really don't want mementos to be the P5 stage. The casino dungeon is better.
 

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Man, I’m really starting to become skeptical of all these leaks we’re getting, even from credible leakers.

The fact that we only have names to go off of and... pretty much nothing else is making me question how credible these leaks are. I just can’t really get behind any leak seriously if that’s the only evidence that exists right now.
 

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Man, I’m really starting to become skeptical of all these leaks we’re getting, even from credible leakers.

The fact that we only have names to go off of and... pretty much nothing else is making me question how credible these leaks are. I just can’t really get behind any leak seriously if that’s the only evidence that exists right now.
Personally, I'm in a similar boat. In my case, though, I just don't know what to make of them. My eyes are just kind of... crossing lmao. All I've gotta say is, this is definitely the weirdest Smash speculation cycle I've ever been witness to.
 

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http://shoryuken.com/2018/12/27/toe...th-blocking-dragon-ball-fighterz-tournaments/

So, this has dropped. Apparently, Toei are not responsible for the DBZF ban. We still don't know who is behind it all, though, given the licensing hell that is Dragon Ball as a whole. This takes away Toei as a possible suspect, though, and we still have Bamco themselves and Bird Studio (+Toriyama) wedged in there. No idea what any of this means for the DQ reps or Crono, especially since the culprit hasn't yet been confirmed...
....oh vat a tweest.
 

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didn't someone say that the dlc reps are gonna be franchises not represented in smash?
Reggie's exact quote is still pretty up to interpretation, and nothing's really solid yet. All he says is that they will be characters that are 'new to the series'. He never mentions that it's new franchises, so it's very debatable if that can be extrapolated from what he said.
 

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iirc a statement from Reggie seemed to imply that but I dont think they explicitly said that
hmmm alright well this is gonna be a long DLC cycle and apparently, there's a rumor that after the Persona 5 anime on the 30th somethings gonna be announced hopefully Persona 5 Switch
 

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hmmm alright well this is gonna be a long DLC cycle and apparently, there's a rumor that after the Persona 5 anime on the 30th somethings gonna be announced hopefully Persona 5 Switch
I heard about that as well. Likely going to be some new story foreshadowing for the new game.
 
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Regarding insiders and the leaks. 5chan leak is weird, as it was previously mentioned, the Erdrick leak comes before the Persona leak and seems to be done by a different person. Some insiders like Vergeben are a bit unreliable when taking into account the DLC.

Regarding the DBFZ thing, I think we will know eventually, the whole Jump Festa fiasco still baffles me as it left many fans unsatisfied when there were supposed to be a trailer and announcement. Neither Bamco nor Toei seem to be responsible, still leaves Toriyama and Shuesha as possible culprits but still feels weird at the moment considering the game is successful. Is the whole DBFZ tournament thing only in Japan, or is it WW?

hmmm alright well this is gonna be a long DLC cycle and apparently, there's a rumor that after the Persona 5 anime on the 30th somethings gonna be announced hopefully Persona 5 Switch
Well, there is a bunch of new domains registered for P5, it wouldn't be surprising even more spinoffs.
 
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I heard about that as well. Likely going to be some new story foreshadowing for the new game.
well they'll probably put in new confidants as well as fleshing out some characters especially Haru poor girl came in the game to late or this won't happen till later and its Persona Q2 or Persona Raceing lol
 

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Regarding insiders and the leaks. 5chan leak is weird, as it was previously mentioned, the Erdrick leak comes before the Persona leak and seems to be done by a different person. Some insiders like Vergeben are a bit unreliable when taking into account the DLC.

Regarding the DBFZ thing, I think we will know eventually, the whole Jump Festa fiasco still baffles me as it left many fans unsatisfied when there were supposed to be a trailer and announcement. Neither Bamco nor Toei seem to be responsible, still leaves Toriyama and Shuesha as possible culprits but still feels weird at the moment considering the game is successful. Is the whole DBFZ tournament thing only in Japan, or is it WW?


Well, there is a bunch of new domains registered for P5, it wouldn't be surprising even more spinoffs.
What makes you say it was posted by a different person?
 

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well they'll probably put in new confidants as well as fleshing out some characters especially Haru poor girl came in the game to late or this won't happen till later and its Persona Q2 or Persona Raceing lol
I don't think that is the plan they have in mind. I am expecting them to flesh out a certain pancake boy instead, as they did Schrodinger his death and is suspiciously forgotten throughout the rest of the game. Perhaps during the time Joker is in prison, we can have an extra story focusing on Akechi in a similar manner to P3's "The Answer." Helps that he also is a wild card. And hey, considering what Akechi did to Haru's father, perhaps this can lead to more screen time for her.
 

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I don't think that is the plan they have in mind. I am expecting them to flesh out a certain pancake boy instead, as they did Schrodinger his death and is suspiciously forgotten throughout the rest of the game. Perhaps during the time Joker is in prison, we can have an extra story focusing on Akechi in a similar manner to P3's "The Answer." Helps that he also is a wild card. And hey, considering what Akechi did to Haru's father, perhaps this can lead to more screen time for her.
**** that my baby girl Haru deserves the world and a lot more then the bull**** she gets, y'all have reduced her down to forehead jokes and OH SHE HAS NO SCREENTIME, give her her own side story damn it
 
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What makes you say it was posted by a different person?
My comment refers most as seems, considering the id's of the posts are different (but I dont know if thats to be expected from the 5ch archive). Also considering the new domains, it could very well discredit this post if the domains are used for different things.
I don't think that is the plan they have in mind. I am expecting them to flesh out a certain pancake boy instead, as they did Schrodinger his death and is suspiciously forgotten throughout the rest of the game. Perhaps during the time Joker is in prison, we can have an extra story focusing on Akechi in a similar manner to P3's "The Answer." Helps that he also is a wild card. And hey, considering what Akechi did to Haru's father, perhaps this can lead to more screen time for her.
That would be a really crappy way to solve it. Although Haru really needs more screentime as she feels like an afterthought.
 
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**** that my baby girl Haru deserves the world and a lot more then the bull**** she gets, y'all have reduced her down to forehead jokes and OH SHE HAS NO SCREENTIME, give her her own side story damn it
It is the fatal flaw of playing the role of the inside man. Once you are no longer targeting the person you have the info on, you become much less prominent in comparison to the rest of the team.
 
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It is the fatal flaw of playing the role of the inside man. Once you are no longer targeting the person you have the info on, you become much less prominent in comparison to the rest of the team.
it's a good thing i'm not watching the anime so i can just experience it in game form
 

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it's a good thing i'm not watching the anime so i can just experience it in game form
I think it's going to be more foreshadowing than anything else. More of a "Hey, see this cool thing and loose plot thread? Go play the P5 game to find out where this rabbit hole goes" rather than actually telling the full story that will be in the game.
 
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I think it's going to be more foreshadowing than anything else. More of a "Hey, see this cool thing and loose plot thread? Go play the P5 game to find out where this rabbit hole goes" than actually telling the full story that will be in the game.
that may be true but i'm not going back to the anime those all-out attacks they do are... something only thing redeemable about it is the OP/ED
 

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"Jack Frost appears on screen with a skill"
"Slime appears on screen with a skill"
This seems to imply that these two characters appear specifically on screen as part of a moveset, and I can't help but think that if they simply meant a moveset and not a video, they'd have said "Jack Frost appears in their moveset" and not have specifically stated on screen.
This seems like major semantics. He wasn't in a playable state to show off gameplay, yes. That doesn't mean model work hasn't been partially completed, or that gameplay planned hasn't been finished for a while. If Jack Frost were set to appear in Joker's moveset or on the stage, lots of people would already know this by now.
 

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This seems like major semantics. He wasn't in a playable state to show off gameplay, yes. That doesn't mean model work hasn't been partially completed, or that gameplay planned hasn't been finished for a while. If Jack Frost were set to appear in Joker's moveset or on the stage, lots of people would already know this by now.
On screen though. I don't see how this is semantics when it's a focal part of a leak comprised of 5 sentences. "With a skill" makes it seem to me it's part of a moveset as both enemies (Jack Frost and Slime) perform a "skill", but I suppose it isn't necessarily in a moveset.
If Joker's model isn't close to a playable state, why would Erdrick's be far along enough to have alt costumes and a female variation?
And nobody was aware Joker even existed as the first DLC rep, I don't quite understand how someone could be aware of Joker AND Erdrick AND the elements that appear on their stage and/or moveset.

EDIT: I wanna clarify I do totally get why you feel this way though and you may be totally right.
 
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Thinking a bit more about the DBFZ issue, I would recommend to just wait and see. As the issue could be a money conflict between two of the parties involved in the DB ip (aka royalties and such) and something that doesn't affect other franchises.

The Joker issue seems like he was probably supposed to be shown in a January-February direct and the VGA was to have Smash presence. Considering last smash DLC had Corrin and Bayo, and Ryu alongside Roy and Lucas, it could be possible that the SE rep would've been planned to be shown alongside Joker.
 

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Right now the Erdrick and P5 leak has taken a big hit as Joker has been stated to not even be in a playable state; which is why his trailer was entirely animated.
If Joker isn't in that state yet, how could Joker AND Erdrick both be in a state to have models, alt costumes, stages, and portions of their moveset shown?
I'm sorry, but this mindset needs to stop. Just because Joker was revealed first does not, in anyway, mean he was the character they started on first. The dev team could have been working on several characters before hand and as soon as they got approval for Joker Nintendo stepped in to change plans. We already know that characters are not shown in the order that they were developed and Sonic in Brawl is proof enough of that since he was one of the last characters they started work on and was revealed before even the rest of the base roster was.
 

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I'm sorry, but this mindset needs to stop. Just because Joker was revealed first does not, in anyway, mean he was the character they started on first. The dev team could have been working on several characters before hand and as soon as they got approval for Joker Nintendo stepped in to change plans. We already know that characters are not shown in the order that they were developed and Sonic in Brawl is proof enough of that since he was one of the last characters they started work on and was revealed before even the rest of the base roster was.
While that is a valid point, the fact that the DLC only just recently began development in general leaves very little wiggle room when it comes to that. To top it off, we have a long ways away before the pass is finished, with each fighter needing to take quite a bit of time. A ground plan is possible, but anything beyond that just doesn't seem likely to be clear to everyone except for that of Joker's.
 

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I'm sorry, but this mindset needs to stop. Just because Joker was revealed first does not, in anyway, mean he was the character they started on first. The dev team could have been working on several characters before hand and as soon as they got approval for Joker Nintendo stepped in to change plans. We already know that characters are not shown in the order that they were developed and Sonic in Brawl is proof enough of that since he was one of the last characters they started work on and was revealed before even the rest of the base roster was.
I don't understand why it needs to stop?
It's not that Joker is necessarily the first one started on. It's that both would, according to this leak, be at the same level of development-that is, pretty far along, with stages and elements of their series. Sakurai's comment that Joker doesn't have much work at all yet contradicts that.

This isn't about the order, and that wasn't my mindset.
 
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