Soul Calibur Mafia! Game Over! Town Wins!

[X1-12]

If I was stalling I'd just not post at all

 

[Swiss]

X1 put your vote on BSL, alternatively explain why you don't think he's scum.

 

[ranmaru]

That's just your excuse to what you seem to be doing. Also, you say no but you don't explain why. Seems like stalling to me.

 

[Swiss]

And please, be so good as to explain why Ran is scummy.

Don't sign out and go to bed, it's getting late for us UK folk, after all.

 

[BSL]

i still think you are scummy, ran. i dont see how swiss' play was meant to draw me out as scum.

you forgot to answer my question, too. so +1 more on your scummy tally. i mean, your answer doesnt matter that much, cause there was no reasoning in the post at all. yet somehow my reasoning was invalid. here, let me go back and get the reasons for why i voted you.

yes. tracking me is minor. it could help, but i dont think itll be necessary. copping me would also clear up any suspicion, minus godfather, like it would when copping anyone.

the only reason i suggest not copping me is because it is unnecessary, but thats the only reason i have. and everyone can use that reason, so it has no merit.

swiss, i actually said right here that i was ok with being copped. but i was ninja'd by ran's post, which i thought was scummy, so i changed my mind right after.

 

[Swiss]

What you did, BSL. Was make a show of being willing to be copped and then immediately change your mind. Allowing you to score the pro-town points of 'yes cop me' yet not out yourself to the cop by actually getting investigated.

 

[X1-12]

not gonna vote BSL, I've explained why and I don't feel the need to defend him right now either

 

[Swiss]

->implies I would be voting Ran

BSL is looking ok. I have a probably foolproof method of finding out if he's scum or not but I can't say for a couple of IRL days, he seems town enough for now.

Actually X1. You haven't explained why.

 

[ranmaru]

i still think you are scummy, ran. i dont see how swiss' play was meant to draw me out as scum.

you forgot to answer my question, too. so +1 more on your scummy tally. i mean, your answer doesnt matter that much, cause there was no reasoning in the post at all. yet somehow my reasoning was invalid. here, let me go back and get the reasons for why i voted you.



swiss, i actually said right here that i was ok with being copped. but i was ninja'd by ran's post, which i thought was scummy, so i changed my mind right after.

Funny, you don't even quote the post you are referring to. : ]

You don't see how? Did you not read Swiss's post at all? Skimmin brah?

Yes, your reasoning was invalid. Ok, I'll give you a hint. The answer, if the second sentence in that post, which states that you have no valid reasoning.

And yet again, instead of repeating why you insist on me being scummy, you direct to reasoning I seem to lack. But I don't even know which post you are referring to. So I think you are lying. I won't believe you until you quote what you mean.

But you would quote Swiss in your defense, though.

=================


Also, I won't be able to post until tommorow now. Sis is going to use the comp.

 

[Swiss]

Ran can I take this as an agreement BSL is scum?

Explain why he is scum.

 

[BoiledGoose]

4 posts in the same minute is pro X1 is town. Swiss, after explaining his reasoning for drawing out BSL, is town. Ran is noob. Could go either way, noobtown or noobscum. I am leaning town atm. Bsl is scum. Everyone else is null due to lack of content. Clown is leaning town, tho. Ya like the rhyme? Bsl stop drawing at straws for my buddying posts. You already acknowledge in the post itself that some of the links are a bit of a stretch. If so, why bother posting it at all? Your reasoning for finding me scummy early game is weak and you know it. Plus, as soon as Ran gave you an excuse to defend me, you took it, despite thinking my play scummy. Realizing I called you out on that move, you went back to championing my 'buddying.' To me, looks like a failed attempt to cover your arse. unvote Vote BSL

 

[BSL]

i quoted it before. youre starting to annoy me.

And yet again, instead of repeating why you insist on me being scummy

look. right. here.

here, let me go back and get the reasons for why i voted you.

im going back. right now. to get reasons.

 

[BoiledGoose]

Sigh, swf is messing up my formatting for some reason h/o that just looks ugly.

 

[BoiledGoose]

EBWOP:

4 posts in the same minute is pro X1 is town.

Swiss, after explaining his reasoning for drawing out BSL, is town.
Ran is noob. Could go either way, noobtown or noobscum. I am leaning town atm.
Bsl is scum.

Everyone else is null due to lack of content. Clown is leaning town, tho. Ya like the rhyme?

Bsl stop drawing at straws for my buddying posts. You already acknowledge in the post itself that some of the links are a bit of a stretch. If so, why bother posting it at all? Your reasoning for finding me scummy early game is weak and you know it. Plus, as soon as Ran gave you an excuse to defend me, you took it, despite thinking my play scummy. Realizing I called you out on that move, you went back to championing my 'buddying.' To me, looks like a failed attempt to cover your arse.

unvote
Vote BSL

 

[BSL]

4 posts in the same minute is pro X1 is town. Swiss, after explaining his reasoning for drawing out BSL, is town. Ran is noob. Could go either way, noobtown or noobscum. I am leaning town atm. Bsl is scum. Everyone else is null due to lack of content. Clown is leaning town, tho. Ya like the rhyme? Bsl stop drawing at straws for my buddying posts. You already acknowledge in the post itself that some of the links are a bit of a stretch. If so, why bother posting it at all? Your reasoning for finding me scummy early game is weak and you know it. Plus, as soon as Ran gave you an excuse to defend me, you took it, despite thinking my play scummy. Realizing I called you out on that move, you went back to championing my 'buddying.' To me, looks like a failed attempt to cover your arse. unvote Vote BSL

ONE was a stretch. there was THREE other buddies.

just cause i think you do some scummy things, doesnt mean i think everything you do is scummy.

 

[BSL]

@mod: request votecount

 

[BSL]

oh, and another reason to show i wasnt buddying you.

ran said "Hmmmm, I'd say track BSL. He seems to align himself with Kuz because they really wanted me to test out the vote timing."

and i immediately tried to back away from looking like i was defending you. i didnt take it. youre wrong.

 

[BSL]

i was ninja'd by a scummy post so i changed my mind, swiss. youre doing the same thing as ran. taking a null-tell and assuming scum from it.

ran:
you didnt want to vote for kuz to verify game mechanics. strange, not necessarily scummy.

then you explained that "votes are powerful, blah, blah, blah" reasoning is valid, i guess

"oh, btw, im gonna vote braig now." you go against what you just said about votes. what happened to the power of votes?

you went on and on trying to discredit my posts based on my phrasing, and not actually what i was trying to convey. i thought goose was scummy, and you were stuck on me "not liking kuz as a person" which wasnt what i was talking about.

then you took a null-tell and assumed autoscum because of it. disliking scummy play isnt always bussing.

i think youre scummy. Goose, along with you, seems to be a tad bit scummy.

BSL, that isn't valid reasoning.

what isnt valid reasoning?

there. was. no. reasoning. how could my reasoning be invalid, IF THERE WAS NONE?

this also goes along with why you didnt answer the question. the question being "what isnt valid reasoning?". dont want you forgetting what im talking about agian.

Also if Ran is scum and BSL is town I'm never playing mafia as town again.

assuming youre town and ran is scum, this sucks that this game had to be your last game as town...

 

[BSL]

i am genuinely angry right now. like mad. irl. im gonna take a break for right now.

 

[X1-12]

Answering other people's questions is scummy and it looks like you are trying too hard to be seen to contribute, otherwise - why answer? I was kinda wrong in how I attacked him afterwards. His posts contain lots of fluff. I ask J what he thinks about kuz parrotting Swiss and then Ran does a post in pretty much exactly the same style. #56 again he random votes braig only because kuz said it was RVS. recklessness is a town tell works both ways. Now some of the things he's pulling out his *** against me are so forced, I called BSL town on a whim and now I am stalling because I need to think of a reason to clear him since he is my scumbuddy. firstly why would I associate myself so obviously with a scumbuddy and even if I was why would I have to stall out and create some elaborate plan. Even assuming all of the above is true and I am trying to save him, why would I do so when he is at like L-4/L-3? please don't call WIFOM here just think of what a ridiculous high risk/low reward scenario it would be if I was actually scum with him

While I was going back through I notice clownbot looking pretty cool, in both ways

i dont mind being tracked. it could help, actually. not immediately, of course, but in late game. i'd love a ran investigation, lol.

This shows why BSL is town btw

@kuz: respond to BSL's #93
@Kuz: who fed you that first line of #110

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Votecount 1.2

Zen: X1-12, frozenflame751 (2)
BSL: Swiss, BoiledGoose (2)
Ranmaru: BSL (1)
Swiss: Ranmaru (1)
BoiledGoose: (0)
Braig: (0)
X1-12: (0)
frozenflame751: (0)
Clownbot: (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch! If deadline were to hit right now, Zen would be the lynch.
Deadline is set for January 8, 2011, at 11:00 AM EST!

 

[Clownbot]

Vote Braig

FoS Frozenflame

The game's just started but we do need to hear more from these guys. Braig's only post so far has been his confirmation and Frozen's posted hardly any content; you're probably the most experienced player here, so contribution would be greatly appreciated.

I might comment on the current ordeal later, but I don't really know what to make of it. I have no optimal lynch candidates at the moment, and BSL/Ran are no exception. X1's case isn't without merit but I think he's being too quick to judge BSL as town based on his post about being tracked.

 

[th3kuzinator]

@kuz: respond to BSL's #93

I already did, in my case accusing him. Skimmin?

@Kuz: who fed you that first line of #110

The little voices inside my head. You know, what some people like to call "reason."

+ Clownbot's clarification made sense to me.

 

[BSL]

ok, i calmed down. sorry.

 

[BoiledGoose]

Seen you viewing this thread for a few hours, FF.

Anything to say?

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Seen you viewing this thread for a few hours, FF.

Anything to say?

Yep, now that I'm finished re-reading.

These are my thoughts so far, this post may come out somewhat jumbled but well, that's just because of how erratic the discussion has been. =P

First of all, rofl @ Swiss in general. Leave it to him to just preach the existence of roles in a game where we have literally no reason to believe any of them exist, and then use discussion related to the handling of those roles as a means to trap and then read players.

If it wasn't Swiss doing it I'd probably have to take that as a scum tell but I'm taking it as a null tell for now since it has provoked some interesting responses and discussion.

If I were to admit I were scum in my next post, but promise to find the indie (there is one) by D2, upon which I could be lynched - would you agree to this?

You have a knack of using non-indictative language in your hypotheticals Swiss. When you say "there is one", are you actually asserting that we have an indy in this game, or are you asserting that "there is one" a priori within the context of your example (since of course, there must assumedly be an indy for your hypothetical to even make sense)? Clarification would be nice.

Ok, I'm not sure about how serious a threat indies are, so I'd rather confer with others before deciding IF that were a possibility.

You're not sure how serious a threat indies are? What kind of experience do you have with indies? How would "conferring with others" change whether or not indies are a threat? Why are you appealing to general consensus on a topic that very clearly one can make stances on without the opinions of others? In fact, why would you defer to others when the question originally was direct AT you regarding indies?

@ MOD, so confirming we are doing plurality at deadline, not NL?

Not reading much?

X1 quote the damn rule for you in like the first post of the game. Then I talked about it some more and said it was important. How in the world did you miss this? You clearly did, because you don't need to ask for something that is IN THE RULES to be modconfirmed, since being in the rules, by virtue of being THE RULES, mod confirms it already.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11886798&postcount=52

@ BoiledGoose: You're attacking Ranmaru as if he was clearly opposed to discerning how exactly ties were resolved with regard to the plurality rule. Can you point me to where exactly Ran's language was indicative of a desire to undermine attempts to acquire this information, or would you agree he simply seemed genuinely confused by you asking him to vote for you, and simply was overcautious because he didn't recognize the purpose of your request?

Bearing this in mind, the above linked post seems like a huge overreaction and an attempt to make a confused individual look like he was intending to do something that he wasn't.

BSL does the same thing as BoiledGoose here but to a much lesser extent: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11887180&postcount=61

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11887189&postcount=62

Ran looking a little OMGUS here trying to direct a track onto someone who was attacking him. Not sure what other motivation there is for that pick since he offers no real analysis on the matter.

What's with this "kuz if you are town watch out" line too? Aren't you supposed to be able to read Kuz well or something? Why don't you figure out whether or not he's town and then definitively take a stance on what BSL is doing then, instead of just offering us this whimsical accusation.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11887245&postcount=70

This is a blatant lie as I've already shown. You were skimming plain and simple. Is that what the Swiss buddying was for? Trying to distract him from the fact that you were just lying to his face when he asked you to be honest?

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11887375&postcount=86

Why? What unique benefits does copping Ran, assuming we have a cop, offer the town?

@ Ran: You said you would like to be investigated. Same question to you, what unique benefit does investigating you offer the town? Explain in detail why YOU SPECIFICALLY should be investigated if we have the capacity.

BSL is definitely scum. I was acting in a way which should have led you to not trust me. Plus saying 'be wary of Swiss and BSL' isn't an easy thing to say when we're both online and active.

You are definitely town.

BSL did everything he could to avoid the cop, but not the track, he is scum, and a goon. He cleared Goose as non-scum (or godfather) by nominating him as the cop target.

Provisional town: Ran, Swiss, Goose, Clown

IGMEOY Clown

BSL is scum. Unsure on X1.

The bolded is such an empty baseless statement it hurts. Explain.

I also want better analysis on how BSL allegedly "did everything he could to avoid the cop but not the track." How does being ok with being tracked make him a goon? Goons can certainly carry out NK and in fact, tend to be good picks for the job since being watched and targeting two people often spells doom for scum PRs. So tell me, how are we getting from Swiss gambit step A to definitely conclusion B? Walk me through.

lol @ ClownBot FOSing me because I haven't posted in the last 12 or so hours. Excuse me for not idling on SWF all day.

Vote's gonna chill on Zen for now 'till we hear more from him. J being absent is kinda cool since I'm afraid having to deal with his playstyle again but I also want more opinions on stuff so I'm kinda caught between a rock and a hard place. =P

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Oh yeah I also wanted to point out what seems to be a significant attitude shift in Ran here: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11887658&postcount=129 . Earlier this game he was like a somewhat rattled, innocent sounding, sorta cornered newb who doesn't really know how to respond to tough grilling, and now all of a sudden he has the confidence to spout lines like "skimmin brah?" just because Swiss decided to pull a fast one on BSL. Rubs me the wrong way, sounds like previously cornered scum who's now having a field day because he found a perfect scapegoat.

BSL's AtE is ghey too and I lost respect for him because of it. You're lame BSL for playing the "OMG I'M SO ANGRY WHAHAHAHA QQ" card.

 

[BSL]

i didnt wine about it or anything, i was just going offline for a little bit. youre blowing it way out of proportion.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

I'm blowing absolutely nothing out of proportion. I simply called you out for the piss poor play you're guilty of.

You didn't whine about it? Yes you did. Just posting **** like that is the very definition of whining about it. If you weren't whining about it, or trying to make a big deal out of the fact that you were angry, why did you even post this?

i am genuinely angry right now. like mad. irl. im gonna take a break for right now.

You could have very easily just closed your browser and walked away and just let yourself cool down until you were no longer allegedly angry. But no, you decided that you just had to post about how angry you were so that we can all know about it. What purpose exactly does that serve OTHER than AtE? You tell me, because I'm having a hard time seeing it.

 

[BSL]

Don't sign out and go to bed, it's getting late for us UK folk, after all.

swiss told me not to sign off until i explained why i thought ran was scummy. i explained. then i left, but told him that i was leaving for just a little while, just in case he had some response, checked if i was online, got mad at me for signing off when he said not to, etc.

 

[BSL]

i am genuinely angry right now. like mad. irl. im gonna take a break for right now.

OMG I'M SO ANGRY WHAHAHAHA QQ

I'm blowing absolutely nothing out of proportion.

is this a joke?

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Swiss told you not to sign off and explain why Ran was scummy.

You then proceeded to not sign off and explain why Ran was scummy, without doing AtE. That was all fine.

But then at the end, completely unprovoked, you just all of a sudden decide to cap off your explanations with I'm Angry guyz. 4real, liek, in IRL mangz. I'm so mad I like have to take a break.

So again, I'm telling you that posting that had NO FUNCTIONAL PURPOSE OTHER THAN AtE. Feel free to entertain me with futile linguistic gymnastics trying to explain that away though.

And no it's not a joke. Your analytical reading skills are a joke if you think that what I posted is blowing anything out of proportion.

I represented what you had said using different language, but that doesn't change the fact that my interpretation of your post and your actual post itself both serve the same functional purpose. Both are simply blatant AtE's by being statements that serve no purpose than to bring to light the alleged fact that you were angry about recent events. Just because I didn't use the same words doesn't mean I changed the meaning, function, or impact of your statement, and since I didn't, I didn't blow it out of proportion.

 

[Xivii]

*Zen was reading through the posts that had gone on today, preparing to respond to everything when he noticed something painfully obvious. He haulted his read through immidiately and went for the quick reply box...*

"Swiss is scum. No Joke. We should lynch him today.

Vote: Swiss"

 

[BSL]

but you did. you changed the attitude among the post. you added the "WAAAAAAAAAAH QQ" and the ALLCAPS.

i made sure to keep the post as calm and collected as possible so that there was LESS emotion in it.

your example is written to be obvious AtE. my post was written to explain why i was signing off for a little while, and happened to also be AtE.

yours DOES, actually, change the impact, by taking the amount of emotion in it, and raising that 9001 levels.

 

[Luxor]

I found out that the game started!

 

[ranmaru]

i was ninja'd by a scummy post so i changed my mind, swiss. youre doing the same thing as ran. taking a null-tell and assuming scum from it.

ran:
you didnt want to vote for kuz to verify game mechanics. strange, not necessarily scummy.

then you explained that "votes are powerful, blah, blah, blah" reasoning is valid, i guess

"oh, btw, im gonna vote braig now." you go against what you just said about votes. what happened to the power of votes?

you went on and on trying to discredit my posts based on my phrasing, and not actually what i was trying to convey. i thought goose was scummy, and you were stuck on me "not liking kuz as a person" which wasnt what i was talking about.

then you took a null-tell and assumed autoscum because of it. disliking scummy play isnt always bussing.





there. was. no. reasoning. how could my reasoning be invalid, IF THERE WAS NONE?

this also goes along with why you didnt answer the question. the question being "what isnt valid reasoning?". dont want you forgetting what im talking about agian.




assuming youre town and ran is scum, this sucks that this game had to be your last game as town...

Right. I voted Braig since he wasn't in the discussion yet. I just didn't want to use it for the purpose of mechanics. Plus, Braig had no votes at the time, it was pretty safe to vote him.

Also you know what my reasoning was. You said "Oh I voted you because you are scummy"

And my second sentence refers to that. You seemed to 'forget' what I said though. It was "How am I scummy?" and then, now you say what I did isn't really scummy.

i am genuinely angry right now. like mad. irl. im gonna take a break for right now.

Dude chill this is a game man.

Answering other people's questions is scummy and it looks like you are trying too hard to be seen to contribute, otherwise - why answer? I was kinda wrong in how I attacked him afterwards. His posts contain lots of fluff. I ask J what he thinks about kuz parrotting Swiss and then Ran does a post in pretty much exactly the same style. #56 again he random votes braig only because kuz said it was RVS. recklessness is a town tell works both ways. Now some of the things he's pulling out his *** against me are so forced, I called BSL town on a whim and now I am stalling because I need to think of a reason to clear him since he is my scumbuddy. firstly why would I associate myself so obviously with a scumbuddy and even if I was why would I have to stall out and create some elaborate plan. Even assuming all of the above is true and I am trying to save him, why would I do so when he is at like L-4/L-3? please don't call WIFOM here just think of what a ridiculous high risk/low reward scenario it would be if I was actually scum with him

While I was going back through I notice clownbot looking pretty cool, in both ways



This shows why BSL is town btw

@kuz: respond to BSL's #93
@Kuz: who fed you that first line of #110

Nah X1. You are scummy, and by trying to clear BSL as town, it may mean BSL may not be scum, and you may be just buddying him. I'd rather have you lynched first. Nah it's low risk. There is a reason for what you are doing. Plus, I'm not forcing anything. Answering another person's question ain't so bad. You make such a big deal out of it. : ]

You're not sure how serious a threat indies are? What kind of experience do you have with indies? How would "conferring with others" change whether or not indies are a threat? Why are you appealing to general consensus on a topic that very clearly one can make stances on without the opinions of others? In fact, why would you defer to others when the question originally was direct AT you regarding indies?

Nope. None, really. This is my second game. I just didn't want to put the chance of trusting Swiss so early in the game. The only thing it would change would be my understanding. It's not bad to get a second opinion to work with. I just didn't know how to answer it yet. Seems pretty tricky, I don't know if Scum should be trusted or not(to find an indy), that is why.





http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11887189&postcount=62

Ran looking a little OMGUS here trying to direct a track onto someone who was attacking him. Not sure what other motivation there is for that pick since he offers no real analysis on the matter.

What's with this "kuz if you are town watch out" line too? Aren't you supposed to be able to read Kuz well or something? Why don't you figure out whether or not he's town and then definitively take a stance on what BSL is doing then, instead of just offering us this whimsical accusation.

No, it wasn't omgus. It's just that I asked Swiss about the copping earlier and he said "If I can't get a read on you by D1, then would you submit to an Investigation?"

I said yes. So then, he said I was getting copped. I then asked him if he couldn't get a read on me by then. Didn't say a thing. Right, I said because BSL seemed to aligning himself with Kuz, so I said if he was. I never said that was my stance, though. : ]

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11887375&postcount=86

Why? What unique benefits does copping Ran, assuming we have a cop, offer the town?

@ Ran: You said you would like to be investigated. Same question to you, what unique benefit does investigating you offer the town? Explain in detail why YOU SPECIFICALLY should be investigated if we have the capacity.

I would want to be cleared, and confirmed. It would help town be able to focus on other individuals and scumhunt with that much more accuracy. I never said that I want to be investigated, I was asked, and I said yes.

Ran can I take this as an agreement BSL is scum?

Explain why he is scum.

Nah. I think X1 is scummier than BSL for toDAY. Why not investigate BSL and lynch X1? What do you think?

Oh yeah I also wanted to point out what seems to be a significant attitude shift in Ran here: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost....&postcount=129 . Earlier this game he was like a somewhat rattled, innocent sounding, sorta cornered newb who doesn't really know how to respond to tough grilling, and now all of a sudden he has the confidence to spout lines like "skimmin brah?" just because Swiss decided to pull a fast one on BSL. Rubs me the wrong way, sounds like previously cornered scum who's now having a field day because he found a perfect scapegoat.

Nope. Townies can be cornered too. No, I didn't understand why I might have been lynched for refusing to use my vote for a simple mechanic. BSL now states it isn't really scummy. Nah I'd use that line all the time.

I admit I was a bit confused, but I still am wondering about Swiss. I mean, if BSL were town, then he'd have used me to somehow say that BSL didn't want a cop investigation. He said he wanted me copped. I was fine with both. X1 is trying to clear BSl as town, so if BSL flipped as town, X1 would be cleared.

X1 said "I'll state why in 30 min" probably as an opening for Swiss to accuse him of not giving one immediately? Could this be a potential bus?

 

[BSL]

Also you know what my reasoning was. You said "Oh I voted you because you are scummy"

And my second sentence refers to that. You seemed to 'forget' what I said though. It was "How am I scummy?" and then, now you say what I did isn't really scummy.

i was waiting on you to explain what reasonings were invalid, so that i could use whatever BS answer you never came up with as another point towards your scumminess.

and i said that one point wasnt really scummy by itself, but coupled with what you did afterward, makes it scummy.

Dude chill this is a game man.

1) i did
2) i wasnt mad at the game, i was mad at you.

accidentally stole your post color.

 

[X1-12]

ran you can't just handwave **** like that by saying 'nah man'

 

[BSL]

2) i wasnt mad at the game, i was mad at you.

also, dont comment on this, ran. exactly what i was mad at doesnt have anything to do with the game.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

*Zen was reading through the posts that had gone on today, preparing to respond to everything when he noticed something painfully obvious. He haulted his read through immidiately and went for the quick reply box...*

"Swiss is scum. No Joke. We should lynch him today.

Vote: Swiss"

Man, this sounds epic and profound and all but, uh, why?

Swiss pressure is always fun but I can't really co-sponsor this resolution without substantiation.

but you did. you changed the attitude among the post. you added the "WAAAAAAAAAAH QQ" and the ALLCAPS.

i made sure to keep the post as calm and collected as possible so that there was LESS emotion in it.

your example is written to be obvious AtE. my post was written to explain why i was signing off for a little while, and happened to also be AtE.

yours DOES, actually, change the impact, by taking the amount of emotion in it, and raising that 9001 levels.

You made the post as "calm and collected as possible"? Really? Is this a joke?

If your definition of "as calm and collected as possible" is that post, then I can't even comprehend what legitimately angry must look like.

If you wanted to be "as calm and collected as possible" and show as little emotion as possible, why don't you try, ya know, not showing or appealing to emotion. Like this:

"Sorry guys I need to take a break, I'll be back later."

There, that's a perfectly emotionless post that serves the informative purpose you claim that post had. Don't even try to play games with me saying **** like "omg you changes the impact of the post!" when CONVEYING THAT EMOTION WAS YOUR INTENT IN THE FIRST PLACE. It didn't "just happen to be AtE", you MADE it that. Just because you think "allcaps", "waaaaaah" and "QQ" somehow convey the message that you're angry more than "Guys I'm legitimately angry right now. In RL.", doesn't at all change the fact that you were AtEing in a situation that didn't call for it and of your own volition.

I found out that the game started!

Great! Start catching up and kindly never post in this game on your normal account ever again since you're in a hydra and should use the hydra account properly. =D