Sonic

[smashbro29]

In all honesty I hate Project Melee Sonic. I hope it doesn't end up too much like that. And his Homing attack in that game had super bad lag if I remembered correctly. Unless that was old version of Project Melee.

Mind telling us why? I'd sure like to know.

 

[BSP]

Yeah, he does a pose after HA in P:M that adds some lag

 

[Davidreamcatcha]

Could you see Eggman fighting in smash?

I can't really.

Eggman in his eggmobile with all the robot crap popping out for attacks?

Yes please.

 

[True Blue]

Mind telling us why? I'd sure like to know.

I don't know how to put it really. Like he was made good and it seemed obvious that they took some of his moves from Sonic Battle. Or at least the feel of Sonic. But I never liked Battle a lot. And I actually prefered Sonic the Fighters over that and almost all of Sonic's moves in brawl were taken from Sonic the Fighters. Which Brawl Sonic gave off more of a Sonic feel.

Yeah, he does a pose after HA in P:M that adds some lag

And maybe the lag was also the Melee lag between doing moves. But also if you miss with homing attack doesn't it give you a but load of lag? Especially when hitting the ground? And also some of the lag I might be thinking of might just be the game mechanic too. Cause I could never get use to Melee and even now it feels like a laggy game sometimes to me. And remember I say "To Me" so don't attack me for saying it is laggy. lol

 

[Mr. Johan]

I'd honestly replace the Homing Attack with the Ring Attack Sonic has in Sonic Battle, complete with the option to not actually have to follow through with the attack, similar to the Spin Dashes. The Ring would do no damage by itself to compensate, or, at the very most, cause damage without hitstun like Fox's Lasers


But fat chance of that happening, so just give Sonic the option to cancel Homing Attack with an airdodge, or the ability the hold the charge up phase longer by holding the B button, and I'd be fine with it.

 

[True Blue]

But fat chance of that happening, so just give Sonic the option to cancel Homing Attack with an airdodge, or the ability the hold the charge up phase longer by holding the B button, and I'd be fine with it.

That would be sooooooooooo fricken awesome!

 

[AIM0001]

Tails would still get priority

Why no shadow? He was pretty iconic and made it as an assist in Brawl. I would love to see Shadow because he's got Sonic speed, but he's chaos powers would make him a totally different character.

I like Shadow n all but Im afriad he'll be a clone. Thats really my only problem with him. Atleast when you add Tails you add another flying character with MetaKnight and Pit. With Eggman you add another major antagonist(like Bowser Status). If he's possibly in some sort of mech he would be a heavy weight like Gannon and Bowser.

Sure Shadow could have a some what unique moveset with the chaos emerald but I still not sure how much of a different move set he would have....

 

[BSP]

I'm sure it'd be different enough to where he wouldn't feel like a clone.

 

[True Blue]

Yea he would have chaos spears and guns and would skate and then spin dash you... oops. lol. And then he could be an antagonist cause he would be all like "No Sonic, your doing this wrong. Get out of my way, this is my mission. I don't need your help. This guy tells me your the bad guy and I am the real hedgehog and your the faker." cause he gets his mind wiped and etc. lol

Though tails flying would be kinda weird cause I don't feel like it would work the same way. Cause he feels like he wouldn't get multiple jumps like pit and meta but just an Up B that works like Pit.

 

[Conviction]

Guns? Really. Do people like promoting bad games?

 

[KRDsonic]

I'm hoping Sonic will be a lot different. I hated him in Brawl, but if they change him a lot for Smash 4 then I may actually use him this time around.

 

[Pachinkosam]

I hope talis comes along.

 

[Espy Rose]

I'm hoping Sonic will be a lot different. I hated him in Brawl, but if they change him a lot for Smash 4 then I may actually use him this time around.

Except as far as the character goes, and the concept that created such a character, it was absolutely perfect.

The original Sonic the Hedgehog game used only one button. I think its simple yet exhilarating play was its virtue.

And given that this game’s controls are also simple, I think it personifies his distinct characteristics.

Sonic in Brawl is absolutely fine as far as his specials and their designs are concerned. His problem was just that he had too much cool down on a lot of his moves. Give him that, and perhaps a bit more power behind some of his moves, and he'd be perfect.

 

[Conviction]

Get rid of Side B as Spin dash, make it the light speed dash or something.

Aerial Down B should be the bounce attack. It makes more sense following sonic game phyiscs.

 

[Espy Rose]

Those changes sound completely awful.
I love Sonic the way he is. The only move I'd even consider changing is neutral B.

 

[BSP]

Dair spike would be nice though

You don't want less startup on KO moves?

 

[Espy Rose]

I'm talking about special moves as far as that's considered. I assumed we were still on the subject of them in particular.

 

[Mr. Johan]

I could see Down Air being changed to the Bounce Attack as used in Sonic Advance 2. Small but noticeable startup, instant horizontal momentum stopper, a vertical drop, and a rebound once Sonic hits either the floor or something else. Just make it end at some point if it doesn't connect with anything and it's good.

 

[shinhed-echi]

Agree, Sonic needs a spike move.

I always wanted the wild spring that he drops after performing an UP+B, to launch the opponent it connects with in whatever direction the spring was facing. XD

 

[Conviction]

Those changes sound completely awful.
I love Sonic the way he is. The only move I'd even consider changing is neutral B.

Opinions my brother. I just don't like how bland the special set is, however the current one does flow well. From a competitive standpoint.

 

[kid craft 24/sonic master]

Well i don't really have an issue with sonic's specials set, but i do prefer him not having 2 spin dashes. i know for brawl it works well but for the next installment who knows how well that would work. I feel if he were to get light dash, boost or the Bounce attack as a special it would give him some new options.

The light dash/ boost would work like fox/falco's side B except no free fall if used in the air and it would replace side-b and he would have Spin charge.

the bounce attack would replace our down-b and he'd retain spin dash and the move would work kinda like GnW's Dair as in you could control it's downward trajectory and it could spike if connected with at the beginning when used in the air.

aside from those changes a slight buff in KO power to specific moves and some better frames for when moves come out and end would help him significantly. Dsmash i particular should end sooner imo. The also should remove our grab release gimp as in melee if you got grabbed you would regain your up-b why did they have to take that out :S.

 

[True Blue]

Guns? Really. Do people like promoting bad games?

lol what about fox, falco, and wolf. And the ray gun. Super scope.

 

[volbound1700]

This isn't character related but I would love to see a Wing Fortress Stage plus the Music from Sonic 2. Epic stage.

 

[Espy Rose]

God yes. Wing Fortress or Flying Battery would be amazing.
Death Egg Zone. Final Fortress.

genfejl

 

[Conviction]

lol what about fox, falco, and wolf. And the ray gun. Super scope.

None of the guns in Smash are of Shadow The Hedgehog level and you know it. Get out of here with that.

I have no problems with guns but jesus if you want to rep Shadow can at least rep a good game he is in?

 

[kid craft 24/sonic master]

i doubt shadow would have a gun. and if anything his special would be
-Homing attack with longer charge up time but more accurate and stronger
-Chaos spear side-b chargeable projectile
-Chaos Control kinda like mewtwo's up-b from melee
-and Spin dash/Spin charge for down-b would be stronger than sonic's but would end sooner.

And his final smash would be he turns into super shadow and uses Chaos blast. His other attacks would probably be picked up or based around his moves from sonic battle.

 

[Revven]

Yeah, he does a pose after HA in P:M that adds some lag

It adds no lag at all when you can cancel the Homing Attack on-hit with a jump or any of his special moves except another HA.

 

[Conviction]

i doubt shadow would have a gun. and if anything his special would be
-Homing attack with longer charge up time but more accurate and stronger
-Chaos spear side-b chargeable projectile
-Chaos Control kinda like mewtwo's up-b from melee
-and Spin dash/Spin charge for down-b would be stronger than sonic's but would end sooner.

And his final smash would be he turns into super shadow and uses Chaos blast. His other attacks would probably be picked up or based around his moves from sonic battle.

This is what I would expect but I don't want to bog this place down with Shadow seeing how it's the Sonic thread.

 

[Mr. Johan]

Only stage I can see coming in for now is Tropical Resort, thanks to Colors being the last Wii main Sonic title, and to Generations 3DS including the stage.

If it's included in the upcoming SEGA All-Stars Racing Transformed game for the Wii U, that only solidifies its place as a hallmark stage.

 

[Conviction]

Songs like Doomsday Zone need to be in the next Smash.

 

[Espy Rose]

If we're talking about post-modern Sonic stages being in the next game, then why haven't we said Rooftop Run?
Tropical Resort would be an awesome addition.

 

[True Blue]

Why would we use that when they could technically use City Escape now because of Generations lol. But doubt they would but they definitely need to add those new city escape songs into the game.

 

[Conviction]

Eh, I like the original song the best still.

 

[yani]

I have no problems with guns but jesus if you want to rep Shadow can at least rep a good game he is in?

Give Shadow his Sonic Battle moveset.. POW!

 

[BSP]

Eh, I like the original song the best still.

I started off like this, but the new ones grew on me. I like them a bit more now.

It adds no lag at all when you can cancel the Homing Attack on-hit with a jump or any of his special moves except another HA.

Darn, that would have been nice to know. My mistake.

 

[Mr. Johan]

I was glad that the Classic City Escape theme was so good, but then again, it doesn't take much to surpass the original in quality.

 

[BSP]

Whatever stage sonic gets this go around, I just hope it's competitively sound so all the music doesn't go to waste.

I like the modern city escape theme more than the classic.

 

[Espy Rose]

I like the classic better only because it uses the demo City Escape theme. I love that one the most.

 

[Conviction]

If I had to pick I would choose the classic version

I think a Death Egg themed stage would be pretty awesome.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I'd love to see a Sonic CD stage now, where Time Posts are scattered throughout the stage, and you can change said stage to Past, Present, and Future, and you could actually turn it into a GOOD future or BAD future depending on what you do in the PAST version. XD


Stardust Speedway
or Palmtree Panic

Would love to see these.