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Greenstreet

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Attributes don't determine anything and they do come from player skills as it is an analysis of that character. I believe that Sonic can be high tier and I won't believe otherwise. Everyone no everything has limitations what matters is how we overcome them. I know that I can't debate about anything but the fact is that you try because giving up won't change anything.
Attributes are how the tier list is made. You can ask the guys who made it lol. This is not a point to be argued this is fact. The tier list does not account for individual skill, but how a characters attributes allow him to play better. Sure we can overcome these limitations...but I thought you said Sonic didn't have any flaws lol.
We do try lol. Everyone here has entered tourneys and placed well with Sonic, but in reality, a skillful player that uses MK is going to beat a skillful player using Sonic.


Word: EMZ (ee-em-zee)

Definition: To lunge straight into an intellectual argument with very little or no knowledge of the subject area. It is often done against people who actually do know what they are talking about. But to a person conducting the EMZ, this matters not, as despite their lack of knowledge, they are obviously right. The EMZ argument tactics include: use of buzz words and arguments that are fanciful at best as well as stating things that are plainly false. EMZ are often found to be frustrating and annoying and should be dealt with quickly. The problem with this is that when an EMZ is occuring, the users pigheadedness will often cause them to battle relentlessly despite being wrong. Similar to trolls, its probably best to ignore them.


EMZ, you are wrong, a characters attributes determine how well he can be used. That is final. TECHNICALLY if you are good enuff u cud pwn the world with Sonic, but its easier to do with MK and anyone above Sonic on the tier list, because they are BETTER CHARACTERS WITH LESS FLAWS!!!! And even if Sonics flaws can be overcome (even the lag and no priority which is unchangable lol?) then the other characters would still be better as they have less flaws to overcome!!!
 

Greenstreet

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I've got an exam tomorrow.
See ya later everyone I like.
See ya later EMZ.
P.S. Your opinion is blantantly wrong, no matter how much you think otherwise. It's not debatable. It's fact.
 

Tenki

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Or you can ignore him.

Like he ignores our valid points.

Like how you ignore SBR's valid points.

Like he ignores my posts xD

It's actually a pretty strong attack.
 

aeghrur

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SBR's valid points? We didn't ignore them, we quoted them. :O Those other ones, we sigged and made fun of, lol.
 

SonicX580

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Hey Tenki can we brawl tomorrow maybe in the afternoon cause I'am starting home school but I let you know as soon as I'am avalible.
 

Tenki

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@EMZ/PSI2
Aren't you like PSI in a sense? Constantly instigating without trying to see it from the other side?

The majority of these people are Sonic fanboys. Huge fanboys like yourself. I can find a thread where alot of the people arguing against you or who have contributed to this board just threw away all of these and started sounding just like you.

Because they found out that Sonic was 5th from the bottom on the first official tier list.

They know how you see things. But try to see it from our side.

Objectively speaking, character-wise, Sonic is a bad character. It doesn't make a difference at all whether we win or lose, because we're familiar enough with our character/our opponent playstyles to put up a fight, if not win. And a bunch of us do win alot harder with Sonic than we could with any other character. But there are reasons why Sonic is viewed as low-tier instead of high-tier - and it's not the tournament wins nor the players, but the character abilities that determine this.

If that's not what you're arguing about, then just stop, because you're arguing about something that isn't related to tiers.

SBR's valid points? We didn't ignore them, we quoted them. :O Those other ones, we sigged and made fun of, lol.
Edreese made some really good posts in that thread back when it was still alive. They were largely overlooked.

@SonicX580:
Friday-Sunday. I'm not available on weekdays.
 

da K.I.D.

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just a little over view...

I know about all of that, but you can't base your claims tournament wise.
I know alot about Smash, my point is that sonic has much more potential than you give him.
My argument on Sonic being top tier is that he isn't slowed down by his flaws like other characters so he should be high tier.

Well you must not know Sonic that well if you think otherwise.
Most of Sonic's moves have lag but so do other characters, the thing is to not worry about it but how to use to your advantage.

Sonic's flaws add to his mind game tactics(that aren't used much).
If lag is your excuse then there is no argument.

Wow, characters like MK can do damage but so can Sonic because his speed is his power, although speed alone isn't enough though
Lag isn't the issue it's the issue of people accepting others thoughts on his use without even determining this fact for themselves. Tell me Mr. Debater have you even played as Sonic?
People say that his flaws on lag as well on regular gameplay makes him too vulnerable to other characters, its the same for other characters so why does it matter? Anyone could be best player in the world if they had just tried but no one has the mindset for it. In reality Sonic has no flaws its just that people assume that they can't win which leads to their downfall, its the people's fault not Sonic's.
My point is to find a way over his flaws like MK players did for him to make him top tier. Any character can get the this title but its the lack of people believing that their laggy character can do this.
You really believe that? The player controls the character, so if the player isn't good then that affects the character. I don't have a reason why he deserves to be high tier but I'm saying that he can do it but it takes the right person to help him achieve this goal.
Every character has flaws, I mean MK all of his specials leave him vulnerable and his Fsmash has lag. His only advantage is the amount of his attacks.
Attributes don't determine anything and they do come from player skills as it is an analysis of that character. I believe that Sonic can be high tier and I won't believe otherwise. Everyone no everything has limitations what matters is how we overcome them. I know that I can't debate about anything but the fact is that you try because giving up won't change anything.
lol guys, this is PSI Lockes cousin.
If you want me to stop fine, this is just my opinion.
I may be wrong but I may be right, ignore me if you wish but please don't compare me to PSI
If you guys can't do much as Sonic, why not use MK then?
I just wanted to give Sonic boards encouragement to do better because I believe that everyone could do good.
this was the type of instance xiivi was talking about. soooo...

EMZ you are an ignorant ******, you need to stop speaking and take your unnessisary, unwarrented crap elsewhere. we dont need it here, we dont like you, nobody listens to you because you are wrong, we hate you and we want you to die. as far as im concerned, you are even worse than your cousin because your garbage is taking way longer to get rid of and forget. your grandparents have stupidity going through their veins because stupid is obviously hereditary in your family,

please never post here again... and i suggest that until he says something smart, even ignore him. i know i will

god, i leave the board for 2 days and hell breaks loose...
WTF people...
 

Tenki

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flaming steak

You should unflame (edit) your flames out because SamulaiPrada and Youkoraichu are with the M*gikarps and G**mers.


You missed the end of it though.

I just wanted to give Sonic boards encouragement to do better because I believe that everyone could do good.
We do good. We just know our limitations. You haven't got to that point yet.
There's a difference between encouragement and disillusionment.
I see now, sorry

so it's all good.
 

da K.I.D.

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@ cat
because it was a good point that needed to be made

and beside, as soon as i clicked on this page my notify thing went to 1, my guess is that i already got infracted...


efffingboxob bringing mods here...
 

da K.I.D.

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lol it was just cat

effing people lol
@tenki
i dont care, a measily sorry is not enough to alliviate my anger at the wall of quote i just put up there

im usually nice to people but that junk was rediculous, he had the nerve to say all that garbage, acting like we dont know our character, whats worse is that he said that crap right after I GOT BACK FROM A TOURNAMENT
 

Greenstreet

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Crazy business. Well at least it all got settled in the end. I hope EMZ lurks alot more before he posts again. If you happen to be reading this go find THE MOST IMPORTANT THREAD YOU'LL EVER READ.

Search it. Learn its contents.
 

SonicX580

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Hey guys I kinda need help I'am entering a November tournament (online here in smashboards) and I need more experience can someone train me Tenki? or anyone else?
 

Greenstreet

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lol i wudnt say cult like. just a stupid group of preteens who fight over pokemon cards. except our pokemon cards dont exist and we fight ova nothing :)
 

Greenstreet

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It's an awesome card. Just quietly, the card shops were such ripoffs. My brother sold them a ivysaur spare he had for like 50c and they were selling it the next day for like $2.00.

So lame.
 

Kinzer

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Hey X5, if you have Wi-Fi setup, feel free to hit me up sometime. Usually my best form of contact is my AIM, but I guess you can just use the Private Message system to or something.

Since I play Sonic and Ike equally, I'll give you some points on what you have to work on, as well as tell you what some would say..."You're doing it wrong!" over what most presume that Sonic has an advantage over Ike. If we can get you to that point...or at least get closer to it, you will know you are getting better.
 

Terios the Hedgehog

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im a hardcore smasher i go on the hardest diffculty and face the hardest character on the games on Super Smash Melee i use Roy and Super Smash Brawl i use sonic, link,and samus


Given your posts... RUN, RUN WHILE YOU CAN!

You'll have to at least play some people on wifi before we trust anything you have to say. Just a warning.
 
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