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Greenstreet

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Sorry yeah I meant to put that in lol (spindash). I'll go check the list for the stage query.

It's counterpick at the moment, by popular vote.
 

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I think the board looks better already guys. Good work!!
I've knocked all the threads that are relevant to Sonics development and moveset to the front page. Hope it helps!
/bans greenstreet for thread necro.
 

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THat's because you're random people who didn't previously contribute anything.

Chances are that you're useless fanboys who will never be good at the game, or people who don't main Sonic anyway.

But you know, sometimes the chances are wrong, but it's a horribly slim chance.
 

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By the way, Gf2tw went to the Lucario Boards. It's actually a good thing, seeing as we kinda lost everyone after Gimpy started his F-smashing campaign. Lucario mainers don't haze or flame, but they dislike when the "report" function is used on their spam.
 

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THat's because you're random people who didn't previously contribute anything.

Chances are that you're useless fanboys who will never be good at the game, or people who don't main Sonic anyway.

But you know, sometimes the chances are wrong, but it's a horribly slim chance.
Hmm... I understand but I'am not like one of them I'am actually here because I was in a tournamnent and the person I was facing said after the match he said " You have great potential if you want to be better go to www.smashboards.com and you will be better". and by the I lost the match in sudden death in the semifinals. (true story).
 

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Hmm... I understand but I'am not like one of them I'am actually here because I was in a tournamnent and the person I was facing said after the match he said " You have great potential if you want to be better go to www.smashboards.com and you will be better". and by the I lost the match in sudden death in the semifinals. (true story).
Just leech wifi from a friends house or something so one of us can fight you.
 

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By the way, Gf2tw went to the Lucario Boards. It's actually a good thing, seeing as we kinda lost everyone after Gimpy started his F-smashing campaign. Lucario mainers don't haze or flame, but they dislike when the "report" function is used on their spam.
yea you redirected me to general brawl discussion who redirected me to sonic boards
 

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yea you redirected me to general brawl discussion who redirected me to sonic boards
I suppose there are two rules:

1. We are all lucario fans at some level, you shouldn't be there simply because you were kicked out of some other thread. We also like people who are chill. But we do not flame, even if a poster attempts a flame war (such as Mewtwo is better than Lucario).

2. People WILL hate you for reporting anything. The closing of the spam threads on that board completely halted all progress on Lucario's metagame. If you report spam, you are in fact directly contributing to his stagnation as a character. Mods who close spam threads are also responcible for the halting of his Metagame. This is because about half the Lucario mainers mained him for the community, which was largely fueled by spam. Without this element, a huge portion of the community stopped posting, and most of the useful posts also went away. They NEED spam, so even the most dedicated hate it when a person reports spam.
 

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Sorry yeah I meant to put that in lol (spindash). I'll go check the list for the stage query.

It's counterpick at the moment, by popular vote.
Lol oh okay..

Counterpick, woo hoo!

Anyways has anyone been able to pull of the same stunt on Yoshi's Island (Pipes)?

I'll word it like Greenstreet did, the gliding UAir.

And hmmm.

When playing in tournaments, do Sonic users use Corneria a lot for counterpicks when using Sonic?

I'm trying to uh, "study up".

My main character is shown as Ice Climbers, but I rotate between the two (them and Sonic).. well three, technically.
 

Greenstreet

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Important Sticky Stuff!

Lol oh okay..

Counterpick, woo hoo!

Anyways has anyone been able to pull of the same stunt on Yoshi's Island (Pipes)?

I'll word it like Greenstreet did, the gliding U-tilt.
Fixed.
U-tilt was the move I like doing :)

Also I have been talking to Samurai Panda and if worst comes to worst I should just PM with a list of new stickies we need and old ones we don't...so if we wanna pick what guides we want up there now? Tenki are you seriously making a mega-one and should we wait for it?
 

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Get Tenki's Side B and Down B Mechanics stickied for sure.
 

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Yeah I like it... The only other issue is the two Guides that are up there atm. Do we think they are current? Is Tenki really making a mega one?
And should the Matchup Discussions be switched?
 

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Yeah I like it... The only other issue is the two Guides that are up there atm. Do we think they are current? Is Tenki really making a mega one?
And should the Matchup Discussions be switched?
You mean the advanced tech, gimp guide and the make Sonic annoying guide? Well, I hardly see Toes around anymore, and MagicalKuja is not even a Sonic boards regular, so maybe we can get one of those swapped with DNes's guide?
 

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Hey I got a question how can we make Sonic a higher tier? do we have to brawl to prove it or debate?
Um, place higher in bigger tournaments? Don't be too concerned of his tier placement. It might change, or it may never. It doesn't matter, we'll keep ****** with Sonic anyway.
 

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All we can do to even hope Sonic will get anywhere higher on the tier list is place very well in big tournaments and find AT that change his metagame in some way.

Although don't even consider that faulty list. Read my sig.
 

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Tier lists shouldn't concern you, forget about them, they're actually really pointless ventures.
It's just so the SBR can pat themselves on the back every now and again and announce Sonic an awful character when there's actually a **** ton of proof otherwise. He's just a bad character.
Me and ShadowLink tried debating before with Samurai Panda. He said that Sonic hadn't proved himself in high level tournament play. I proved him otherwise with links and facts and figures, and I didn't get a response.
I like being right.
 

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Tier Lists are based upon a characters potential and how they are used, so really... atrue tier list is set in stone when the game is released but it just takes a while for the SBR/whoever to realise/see this. Until then it has flaws I suppose.

P.S. I think the magicalkuja guide could go... i was looking thru it and it's nothing special atm...
 

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Hey I have a idea if we enter into a high level tournament and win with sonic to prove he is a high tier or we could suprise everyone by wining every match with a person that's not a sonic mainer. (what do you tihnk about this idea)?
 

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Well essentially that's what people are doing when they jump on the boards. Trying to beat people. But the thing is, in reality, Sonic isnt Top Tier, so he won't have the ability (not easily) to beat out higher tiered characters in professional play. So we do the best we can I guess.
 

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Well essentially that's what people are doing when they jump on the boards. Trying to beat people. But the thing is, in reality, Sonic isnt Top Tier, so he won't have the ability (not easily) to beat out higher tiered characters in professional play. So we do the best we can I guess.
Right but I know without a doubt sonic has a hidden power that will make him top tier and has sonic mainers it's our job to unlock that hidden power and to prove sonic isn't low -tier.
 

Greenstreet

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Truuue.
But let's take a look at the current Top-Tier characters...
Metaknight - Insane priority, great speed, insane recovery, insanely fast moves
DeDeDe - Insanely strong, has chaingrabs, has projectile, sweet b-air
Mr Game and Watch - insane priority, absorbs energy based projectiles, insane recovery, fast smashes

Hmmm it might be easier to show you a link... wait 1 minute please.

Ok here you go:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199108

This basically explains why characters are in the Top Tier...

Sonic is fast in the air and ground... but he has low priority on most his moves, and his smashes are very fast at all. His recovery is good though. So at best, I think he could make Middle Tier...
 

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Truuue.
But let's take a look at the current Top-Tier characters...
Metaknight - Insane priority, great speed, insane recovery, insanely fast moves
DeDeDe - Insanely strong, has chaingrabs, has projectile, sweet b-air
Mr Game and Watch - insane priority, absorbs energy based projectiles, insane recovery, fast smashes

Hmmm it might be easier to show you a link... wait 1 minute please.
Sure no problem and for the record sonic recovery is top tier spin dash combos, homing attack, and the spring jump.
 

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Greenstreet pretty much summed it all up. Sonic I believe has a possibility of mid tier, but never high or top tier. It just won't happen unless we discover something absolutely mind blowing (which probably/most likely/won't happen). But I think Sonic has the most potential out of all the low tier characters. (I'm not just saying that because I main Sonic. I also used Luigi and Jiggz before the tier list came out, and I mained Ness for the longest time. They all ended up low tier and I still think Sonic has the most potential out of all the characters. On paper no, in reality, yes.)
 

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Truuue.
But let's take a look at the current Top-Tier characters...
Metaknight - Insane priority, great speed, insane recovery, insanely fast moves
DeDeDe - Insanely strong, has chaingrabs, has projectile, sweet b-air
Mr Game and Watch - insane priority, absorbs energy based projectiles, insane recovery, fast smashes

Hmmm it might be easier to show you a link... wait 1 minute please.

Ok here you go:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199108

This basically explains why characters are in the Top Tier...

Sonic is fast in the air and ground... but he has low priority on most his moves, and his smashes are very fast at all. His recovery is good though. So at best, I think he could make Middle Tier...
Huh are you kidding me?! Gannondorf he his almost useless Slow attacks, no speed, heavy.
 

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Ganondorf is low tier. Ignore that part of that thread. I think the thread writer is just starting to do other characters now.. to show why they are in whatever tier they are in...
 

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Recovery helps, that would explain why most of the low tier characters are low tier, like Link and Ganon, as well as the EarthBound Boys.

However even though Sonic does has nice ways to recover, that alone won't bring him higher on the list. Matchups and tournament placings is what makes up Sonic's placing.

I have to admit Sonic doesn't have too many strong matchups (nice thing is he doesn't have any pessimistically weak matchups either), and Meta knight is getting represented too much, which is destroying other people's chances at dominance. At this rate, if we can never get anymore ATs out of Sonic, best we can do for him is Low-High or High-Mid tier.
 

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Greenstreet pretty much summed it all up. Sonic I believe has a possibility of mid tier, but never high or top tier. It just won't happen unless we discover something absolutely mind blowing (which probably/most likely/won't happen). But I think Sonic has the most potential out of all the low tier characters. (I'm not just saying that because I main Sonic. I also used Luigi and Jiggz before the tier list came out, and I mained Ness for the longest time. They all ended up low tier and I still think Sonic has the most potential out of all the characters. On paper no, in reality, yes.)
Yeah and by the way I got some awesome replays on my SD card about Sonic taking down most of the top-tier characters under 3:00 minutes by the way there level 9 cpu will that help sonic's tier status?
 
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