Something2Do Tournaments! - May 11th, 2013 - Louisville Kentucky

[Jiffyboob]

Why does the space between us have to be so large?

We can never be......

 

[Fancy Fanny]

Distance is a *****
Unless you can find a way to Dayton :v

SpIn Me ArOuNd

 

[KassandraNova]

Why does the space between us have to be so large?

We can never be......

Come down jiffy! My salt buddy.<3

 

[Exceladon City]

I guess I'll come to this. I need to drop off that 30 anyways. Any doubles going on?

 

[DtJ Composer]

Just out of curiosity, if I can make it, is Metaknight still banned or is he unbanned?

1Down2Jared3Money

 

[Dooms]

He's not banned in singles.

Still debating doubles.

\KILLER/

 

[DtJ Composer]

Ok.
You should definitely note that in the OP then!

1Down2Jared3Money

 

[Dooms]

Done.

\KILLER/

 

[KassandraNova]

Make double mk banned, have mk legal but make it to where both can't use mk? Just one?

 

[Fancy Fanny]

But how are we supposed to have double mk vs double mk then ?!?

SpIn Me ArOuNd

 

[Dooms]

Make double mk banned, have mk legal but make it to where both can't use mk? Just one?

It wouldn't change much. Just "Which character teams best with Metaknight?" instead of "Metaknight teams best with Metaknight!"

\KILLER/

 

[KassandraNova]

Okay Joey do what you want, it's your party. :D

 

[Kel]

Since MK is going to be legal what will be the stage list? Also, will there be a LGL? these are very important pieces of information.

 

[Dooms]

Should the stage list be changed?

Also:

There is a 50 Ledge Grab Limit for all characters except Metaknight. If a game goes to time and one player goes over the Ledge Grab Limit for their character, they will automatically lose the game. If both players exceed their Ledge Grab Limit, then this rule is ignored.
Meta Knight's Infinite Cape Glitch and Extended Cape Glitch are banned.
There is a Ledge Grab Limit of 35 for Meta Knight.
For a tie-breaker match, a Ledge Grab Limit of 13 is used for Meta Knight.

copy-pasted from the rules in the OP .

\KILLER/

 

[Kel]

Wait, why is MK's ledge grab limit lower?

 

[Overswarm]

Because no one thinks he's fair but they still want him legal, so they try as hard as they can to artificially and arbitrarily handicap him.

 

[sneakytako]

LGL, welp time to run away from Kel lawlawllawl

 

[Overswarm]

Haha, yeah. Kel and Tako's normal matches mostly involve Tako saying "nope, back to the ledge!" and Kel having to win before the timer runs out because of the LGL.

In friendlies.


XD

 

[Kel]

Too bad I'll be MK at this tournament =D

 

[Dooms]

Uhhhh

I just copy pasted the ruleset .

\KILLER/

 

[Kel]

So why does MK have fewer allowed ledge grabs? Is it to nerf his ledge guarding? To make things more interesting? Why do you leave it on at your tournaments?

 

[KassandraNova]

Hmmm
This must be déjà vu...
It's like I keep seeing the same conversation happen over and over again...mmmmmm

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

Ban Mario and I'll be there.

 

[Overswarm]

and that's one of the many reasons I don't go to MK legal events anymore.

 

[DeLux]

If this is MK Banned, I'll more likely than not be able to talk enough people from KC into carpooling with me.

I'd take MM's against whoever wants to play MK against me since I come from an MK Banned local tournament scene so I'm probably bad at the matchup because I don't get practice against mid-level MK players which is what is holding me back from being an international level player.

 

[Kel]

This probably isn't worth a drive from KC, that's kinda far. This is a 5 dollar local tournament.

By all means, if you guys want to show up, we'd love to have you, but you may be disappointed. There are only 3 TVs haha

 

[DeLux]

You guys are chumps then

I've done a whole lot more for a whole lot less

 

[BetaDyne]

Yeah about that LGL Joey and I are going to discuss concrete rules tomorrow when he isn't busy. There isn't going to be a lower LGL for MK. Stages will more than likely be the usuals. I see no reason to change everything because of MK, we have to learn to fight him eventually

 

[Dooms]

Honestly, I'll look around at other tournaments in the area and see what they're doing with their rulesets. The main point of this should be to practice in the settings that are similar to other tournaments we could possibly attend. If they have the same ledge grab limit for everyone, then that's fine. I'd prefer not to do anything crazy since it's just a local and we're really trying to use this for practice specifically, which is why I copied the Unity Ruleset in the first place. Something that was concrete that we could use pretty solidly for practice and it wouldn't weaken our performances in other tournaments.

\KILLER/

 

[KassandraNova]

*ahem*
Joey pleaaaaaaaassssseeeeee no Lgl?

 

[Overswarm]

"Lagless TVs"

If this is MK Banned, I'll more likely than not be able to talk enough people from KC into carpooling with me.

I'd take MM's against whoever wants to play MK against me since I come from an MK Banned local tournament scene so I'm probably bad at the matchup because I don't get practice against mid-level MK players which is what is holding me back from being an international level player.

This one's probably a bit too small on average; we have somewhere around maybe 20 people show up on good days?

 

[DeLux]

I want to see Kentucky though

And if you come Overswarm, that would make it a good day by default and we'd have 21!

 

[Overswarm]

If it was MK banned I'd be there for sure, but if it's MK legal then it's worthless for practice. I've done the MK thing, and it sucked. Soulessly winning money with the only joy coming from timing people out and playing to piss people off. I briefly tempted coming to this and making all of my matches take 8 minutes with or without a LGL to run the tournament over time like I did during pool matches at one of Nope's, but it's not even worth the drive.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=317124&page=3

Just look over the posts John makes in that thread showing the progression of the MK banned and MK unbanned meta game, and you'll see MK unbanned has shown absolutely nothing has changed. Nor will it ever. :|

I'm closing on a house relatively soon and plan on having some private house tournaments with an emphasis on playing many friendlies and improving after I do, so that might be something you could look forward to if you were interested more in games than larger tournaments. If this pro-MK sentiment keeps up though I'll probably just drop smash. It's not worth attending tournaments that pick your character for you.

 

[DeLux]

You heard it here folks, MK Banned gets Overswarm + KC, the package deal

 

[Dooms]

I don't honestly know what we're doing with the MK ban after this tournament. I'd like to get feedback from players that were at either of the previous two events and this up-coming one and see which rule-set they preferred.

\KILLER/

 

[Luminoth64]

I would say lift the ban, but I think it'll draw more people in if he is banned after this.

 

[DeLux]

I don't really care what happens after this tournament since this coming one is the only one I want to go to

 

[DtJ SquidBurrMoneyBurr]

Scratch the tournament lets just get hammered.

 

[Fancy Fanny]

I like that idea.

SpIn Me ArOuNd

 

[clowsui]

turns out i'm not going to cedar pt until the weekend afterwards

i might be here then